Green Living
Dear Community,

Our tech team has launched updates to The Nest today. As a result of these updates, members of the Nest Community will need to change their password in order to continue participating in the community. In addition, The Nest community member's avatars will be replaced with generic default avatars. If you wish to revert to your original avatar, you will need to re-upload it via The Nest.

If you have questions about this, please email help@theknot.com.

Thank you.

Note: This only affects The Nest's community members and will not affect members on The Bump or The Knot.

Moral/Ethical Dilemma with being green--WWYD?

This is pretty revealing information, but I've been struggling with this for awhile.

I have a spinal defect that I was born with. You would never know there was anything wrong with me (in that sense!) but it causes me to have a condition called a neurogenic bladder--which means the nerves in my spinal cord are damaged and don't allow the muscles in my bladder to work correctly. The only problem it causes me is that my bladder doesn't always empty appropriately (similar to after a woman gives birth and can't empty her bladder). So I was getting frequent UTIs and often not able to pee. I have been using an intermittent catheter since I was 21. 

Currently, I reuse the same catheter many, many times---and clean with soap and water. I was still getting frequent UTIs, so I have been taking prophylactic antibiotics. Ideally, I would love to stop having to take antibiotics. The ones that I take have the potential to cause long-term lung damage and other complications--and they are not recommended for when you are pregnant. 

 More and more insurance companies (including mine), are approving single-use catheters for people with my condition. But needless to say, this is NOT environmentally friendly. We're talking about 150 catheters per month. Now, they are very small---about the size of a pencil, and come in recyclable packaging (a small sleeve) so the actual packaging/catheter waste are minimal. I spoke to the company rep who told me that I could recycle them if I wanted to (wash them off and then put the catheters/packaging in a bag). 

What do you think of this? What would you do if you were me? I have a really difficult time making a decision that is not very environmentally friendly---but at the same time, I think my health comes first in this case. 

**Note---I also work as a nurse practitioner at a children's hospital. It is very hard to be a 100% environmentalist and work in a hospital environment. The waste we generate is unbelievable! 

image Emily 7-10-04
My Food Blog Visit The Nest!

Re: Moral/Ethical Dilemma with being green--WWYD?

  • I think disposable is fine if it makes your life better in a considerable way, like this does. We all have things that it is better for us to go conventional on. I like to think that I live green with 80% of things so I can live 20% conventionally without guilt.

    That said, is there an option of a home sterilizer?

    Warning No formatter is installed for the format bbhtml
  • I would choose the single use catheters. 

     

    Image and video hosting by TinyPic Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker
  • I don't know if a home sterilizer would make much of a difference because you still have to reuse a lot of catheters (every time you're out before you have a chance to sterilize).
    image Emily 7-10-04
    My Food Blog Visit The Nest!
  • I am mostly a lurker, but I wanted to chime in...

    Of course, if it is going to make an appreciable difference in your QOL, you should definitely use the disposable catheters!  I think that everyone would agree with that...I can't see why they wouldn't?

    And ITA with you about how hard it is to be green in a hospital environment.  I work as a NICU nurse, and while our hospital is trying to be better all the time (we just recently got recycling cans for all of our plastic bottles, whereas before we could only recycle glass and aluminum), it is so hard because of the nature of healthcare!

    Anyway, just wanted to give you another opinion... 

    image
    Otto
    image
    My (New! Improved!) Blog
    image

    Created by MyFitnessPal - Free Weight Loss Tools

  • I would go with the disposable.

    I'm sorry you're struggling with this medical issue. I had IC for a while and had to take daily antibiotics as well as Detrol LA. It sucked :(

    Warning No formatter is installed for the format bbhtml
  • For me using and recycling a disposable product would far outweigh on-going medication that has serious heath risks.
    AlternaTickers - Cool, free Web tickers
  • I would switch to disposables.

    There is an environmental impact to being on antibiotics as well- so I see it as being a push between the 2.

    AlternaTickers - Cool, free Web tickers
  • imagedaisyterp:

    I would switch to disposables.

    There is an environmental impact to being on antibiotics as well- so I see it as being a push between the 2.

    i agree......switching to disposables seems like the best move for you...hope you can get off the antibiotics soon, UTI's suck! 

    Visit The Nest! BabyFetus Ticker
  • I would choose the diposable catheters because they are best for your health.  As a pharmacist, I feel its better to try to eliminate the long-term antibiotics if possible.  Especially working in a hospital (I do too) where you are exposed to resistant bugs everyday. 

    I also have significant conflicts with my work environment.  Hospital pharmacies have so much waste, especially in peds where I also work and all those plastic syringes!!  Ugh!  Patient safety first...

  • imagekass11:

    I would choose the diposable catheters because they are best for your health.  As a pharmacist, I feel its better to try to eliminate the long-term antibiotics if possible.  Especially working in a hospital (I do too) where you are exposed to resistant bugs everyday. 


    I think this is such a great point. Maybe this isn't that big of a fear (i'm not sure if this is realistic or not) but working in a hospital, aren't you exposed to MERCA much more frequently? Maybe b/c your situation is internal it's not a risk..regardless, your QOL can be increased so much.

    Who knows, in the future, the catheters might become more "green."  

  • I wouldn't even question the decision to do a sterile cath each time.  Infections, being on meds, time off work for appts, etc.  Not worth it.  You deserve to not live without worrying about your health or putting your health at risk by being on meds long term.  No one who knows anything about catheters would ever question your decision.

    My best friend from elementary through middle school was in a wheel chair and didn't cath for a long time (wore depends).  Anyway, once she was able to cath it was so freeing for her.  But then the infections started because insurance didn't cover a new cath each time.  It was just terrible for her.  

    Born at 31w3d due to severe IUGR & Placental Insufficiency--2lbs 3ounces
    image

    We'll miss you sweet Debbie Girl (4.21.12) and sweet Cindy Girl (8.9.12)
    Lilypie Premature Baby tickers

  • imagedaisyterp:

    I would switch to disposables.

    There is an environmental impact to being on antibiotics as well- so I see it as being a push between the 2.

    This exactly. You can focus on your environmental impact in other ways. Take a local vacation this year or bike more to the store when you're only getting a few things.

    I am a pretty hardcore environmentalist, but health is even more important. Plus if you're not sick from a UTI you'll have the energy to do other things like take out the recycling etc...

    Take care of yourself first then the planet. 

  • imageEmily227:
    I don't know if a home sterilizer would make much of a difference because you still have to reuse a lot of catheters (every time you're out before you have a chance to sterilize).

    What if you had a stash of 2-3 days' worth that could be re-sterilized? Then you'd have plenty of fresh ones for while you are out and wouldn't have to clean them every single day. You could put the used ones in some sort of wet-bag until you got home.  (Really, I think disposable is fine, I am just trying to help you think outside the box. The closest thing in my life--which isn't close at all--is using cloth panty liners instead of disposable, so I'm thinking of how I handle those.)

    Warning No formatter is installed for the format bbhtml
  • I agree with daisyterp. The long-term use of antibiotics is problemmatic for you and there are environmental challenges with antibiotics. I think that that disposable catheters make sense in this situation.
    Started TTC July 2011 Dx wt Infertlity NOS Aug 2012 RE appt Sep 2012
  • Thanks for helping me to feel better about this situation! Here's hoping I can be off antibiotics soon.
    image Emily 7-10-04
    My Food Blog Visit The Nest!
Sign In or Register to comment.
Choose Another Board
Search Boards