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S/O Milk
I heard this morning that the US dairy industry is trying to get the word "milk" removed from plant based milk products (soy, almond, etc). And to top it off, the NPR commentator made a crack about hemp milk. *fumes*
To clarify, I'm not trying to bad-mouth all dairy farmers. I just feel like this is a marketing step in the wrong direction.
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What did they propose calling it instead?
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That's just stupid. These things were called such long before there were large industries for them.
"cloudy almond water" is my suggestion.
Mmmmm.
Lol. Hand me some of that rice juice please.
Totally unrelated, but over here peanut butter is actually called peanut cheese. Apparently the dairies freaked because it wasn't really butter so it shouldn't allowed to be called butter. And won. But then, this was back at the beginning.
I agree with Alisha- these things were called that for ages and to change it now is just stupid.
I hate agri-business more and more. My toddler being able to drink hemp milk is a God-send. She can't drink cow's milk, and rice milk has no fat and protein.
Anyone who is against hemp milk (with all of its Omega Fatty Acids no less) is anti-children. Especially children who can't drink cow's milk protein or soy (soy milk being doubly bad). And I pay almost the equivalent of $16/gallon for hemp milk (almost $4/32oz).
Hemp milk is better for you than 'real' milk. And the industry is afraid of that.
Sorry, I wasn't specific enough. They only want to change the labelling on plant-based milks. According to the story, they have deemed all animal milks, including sheep's and goat's to be "real milk" but plant milks are big fat fakers.
I'm lactose intolerant, and will continue to drink my yummy organic soy milk and almond milk no matter what the darn things are called. I still smell a conspiracy. Maybe it's a way to drive soy milk back out of school lunches or something.
And barkers, thanks for the additional info. The snide comment about hemp milk was what really made me scream at the radio. I'm going to submit one of those comments to NPR. You know how the read responses to the previous day's stories on the air? I hope this gets addressed.
Update: I submitted my comments to NPR. This was the closest I could find to the story on their website. Unfortunately, it doesn't contain any of the details I referred to in my post. I enjoyed reading the comments at least
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/04/the_bastardization_of_dairy_te.html
Yes, but goat's milk and sheep's milk are still produced from lactating mammals.
Last time I checked, soy and almonds weren't a lactating animals.
I have no problem with this. I cringe whenever people say "almond milk" or the like. It's not milk. Milk = lactation.
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ok, really? if you think of cow's milk as bovine discharge, then what is breastmilk? human discharge? mammals make milk, there's no way around that.
From Merriam-Webster's Dictionary:
Again, I don't mind if we want to be more specific (though I'm not sure how someone would confuse it with anything to do with cow or be offended that it's not from a mammary gland). If so, we can call it "almond [juice (not accurate), drink, emulsion...]" it doesn't matter to me.
Then we shouldn't use the term "regular milk" because it is also too vague. We'll have to call it "bovine secretions" or "bovine discharge", and probably list all of the other junk that the dairy industry usually adds to it, since it wouldn't naturally be found in a mammary gland.
Yes, mammals make milk. Humans are the only animals that drink it from another species, and the only species that drinks it after infancy (even though the mother stops producing it). This is why there is nothing "regular" about "regular" milk.
ETA: I'm not arguing that we should change the name on "regular" milk. I am just playing out the same logic of specificity to all "milk" products as proposed on non-dairy "milk".
ok, so you want to call breastmilk human discharge then? i think that's a little ridiculous. i'm not against calling plant milks milk but i think it's a little silly that you want to call cow's milk and other mammal's milk discharge.
fwiw, i don't drink any dairy. i used to be a vegan so i get where your arguments are coming from. but you cannot argue with the fact that milk does also come from animals. it sustains life.
and what do you consider infancy? to age 2? my son is still nursing 1-2 times a day and he's 2 year and 4 months. are you telling me that's not natural? most children will not wean on their own before the age of 3 or 4, well past what most of us would consider infancy.
You're right, I used the term "infancy" inappropriately. What I should have said is "in adulthood" rather than "after infancy".
ETA: Obviously, most of my response stems from frustration when friends say "eww" to my non-dairy 'beverages' and refer to those as "weird."
Drinking a substance produced for the offspring of another species seems a lot "weirder" to me than eating a nut.
I am extremely lactose intolerant (I get very sick, not just gassy), so it is especially irritating for me when dairy products are pushed to be the "norm." Actually, being able to drink milk as an adult is scientifically "weird".
Happy to jump up to my soap box. Pisses me off because you know the industry is only splitting hairs because it's afraid of the truth. And the pp is right, many cultures use cheese and yogurt but drinking the milk of another species is wierd. I like milknow - although I couldn't drink it as a kid. And I think cow's milk is a good thing - it's just not worthy of deity status to the preclusion of other good food.