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High School choices--ops please

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So the Gman is going to be a frosh in the fall (yup I'm old) and we registered him about a month ago for a new high school (Ironwood).  He has always gone to school in the charter school system (think more structure, smaller schools) and there are a lot of things I appreciate about it.

His current school offers high school, but is a 2A for sports.  G thinks he is the next Steve Nash (haaaaaa, but you can't kill your kids dream, right?) and wanted to play at a bigger school.  So we went for Ironwood.

I like Ironwood--they have the International Baccalaureate program that he was accepted into (very prestigious degree program like for going to ivy leagues schools and such) of course he loves/hates it (he doesn't want to be a nerd-the goof).

Now he asks me if he can stay at his charter school.  Ugh!  Selfish part: Ironwood is right across the street from where we live.  Current school is a 10 min drive.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on which school?  I need a new perspective to consider.  Thanks :)

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  • You know my thoughts on PUSD- since I'm a product of them =)

    Honestly- it depends on his goal after high school.  Ironwood has some special nicknames... (Ironweed)... but being 5A may prepare him more for college (larger school, more kids), and give him the opportunity to make or break his mad ballin skillz.

    I'd say trying Ironwood, if he doesn't like it- he can transfer back?

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  • I also went to a 5A IB school...and I highly recommend them. 

    IB programs are GREAT, but if he's not up for being the gerd (because geek/nerd should really be one word) I bet they offer AP courses as well.  That's the route I went, took my first AP course my sophomore year. 

    I loved going to a big school.  I had so many different groups of friends, and there was just something "cool" about going to one of those ginormous schools you see on TV.  Sidenote - I would have gone to a large but much smaller school if we stayed in Canada. 

    As Jenn mentioned...going to university barely phased me after my high school experience.  I was so used to the size that it didn't weird me out, and my AP courses prepped me a bit for the independent way of college.

  • I also went to a 5A school that had IB (although I wasn't in it, I took AP courses though) and I loved it. In my school the AP/IB kids weren't seen as too geeky/nerdy. A lot of them were very big into sports and played varsity while in IB so they had good friends from both groups. Its nice to get used to big groups of people to be ready for going to college. I've also heard good things about Ironwood.
  • I went to a small high school, less than 200 kids in my graduating class.  Everyone knows everyone (can be a good or bad thing).  I had a terrible high school experience.  However, my younger brother is graduating next Friday, and the entire class is depressed b/c they are so close and they will miss each other so much.  Smaller schools seem to have more opportunities to be involved in clubs and sports, not as much competition.  

    That being said, it is a big transition to the university lifestyle.  I went to a community college after high school, which also has small class sizes, and that was a very easy transition.  I agree with Jenn, it really depends on his post-high school goals.    

    ETA:  Fountain Hills HS is a 2A or 3A.  AP courses are offered, but I'm not sure on that other program you mentioned.

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  • The charter school has a pretty good AP program, but the sports, at least for basketball, is just ok.  I'm nervous sending him there when he doesn't know anybody.  Our new neighbors all do a home school program.  It's just hard to know what's best for your offspring!
  • Honestly, I would let him choose.

     If he wants the big sports experience, Ironwood is going to be the best...but if he doesn't want to switch to regular public school, let him stay there.

     He's a great kid and I would hate to see him start out high school upset and uncomfortable.

    That being said - tell him that not only did I go from a middle school with like 100 people in my grad class to over 700 in my high school grad class...but I did it after moving to a new COUNTRY and had a blast.  New schools are only what you make of them.  Actually, all school is only what you make of it :)

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    Honestly, I would let him choose.

     If he wants the big sports experience, Ironwood is going to be the best...but if he doesn't want to switch to regular public school, let him stay there.

     He's a great kid and I would hate to see him start out high school upset and uncomfortable.

    That being said - tell him that not only did I go from a middle school with like 100 people in my grad class to over 700 in my high school grad class...but I did it after moving to a new COUNTRY and had a blast.  New schools are only what you make of them.  Actually, all school is only what you make of it :)

    Thanks Jaye!  It does seem like an exercise in letting go and letting him make his own decision.  Gah!  The control freak in me doesn't likey :) 

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    Honestly, I would let him choose.

     If he wants the big sports experience, Ironwood is going to be the best...but if he doesn't want to switch to regular public school, let him stay there.

     He's a great kid and I would hate to see him start out high school upset and uncomfortable.

    That being said - tell him that not only did I go from a middle school with like 100 people in my grad class to over 700 in my high school grad class...but I did it after moving to a new COUNTRY and had a blast.  New schools are only what you make of them.  Actually, all school is only what you make of it :)

    Thanks Jaye!  It does seem like an exercise in letting go and letting him make his own decision.  Gah!  The control freak in me doesn't likey :) 

    Trust in that boy! You raised him well :)

  • unlike everyone that has posted so far - i went to a tiny private school like 120 or so in my graduating class. i LOVED it! i was soo involved in clubs, i did yearbook, our school news program - i did the weather lol -, cheer, prom committee, etc. everyone knew everyone. i still talk to a few friends from hs. our school was a prep school so the classes were small but hard. i was in ap history. i graduated top of class - which really wasn't that hard since it was a small school. in our family college is not an option - you have to go so that wasn't a challenge.
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  • I switched schools my junior year (going from my local high school to a boarding school for the arts) and I LOVED the switch.  I was nervous, of course, to go from where I knew everyone (class of 45, very small town!) to where I knew no one but I adjusted quickly, made a lot of new friends, and had a great time.  I think it's most important to let him pick where he's going to be happiest, but to also let him know that sometimes change is good!
  • Ok, so I went to a 5A school and was actually in the IB program. Let me tell you that it has it's pros and cons.

    I'll start with the cons...You're schedule is pretty much decided for you. I think I was able to choose 1 elective a semester, but there were sooo many classes that I wish I'd been able to take that I never got a chance. Also, you have to take all IB classes, so even if you don't excel in one particualr subject you still have to take the harder class (in AP you can choose which classes to take or not take). You are in the same classes, with practically the same people for 4 years. This can be good and bad...the bad is that I never really made friends with anyone else at the school (I'm guessing this would be different for your son, since he'd be in sports too). That's another thing though...IB can take a lot of your time. I don't remember too many people in my classes that had time for sports too. IB required lots of community service as such.In the end, I got my IB diploma, but still went to ASU and only got to skip English 101 (due to earned credits). I was a good student, but none of the other credits I earned were good toward the field I went into (engineering).

    The pros...because you are in the same classes with the same people, you get to know them really well. You become really close...we've even have our own reunions. :) The tests at the end of your senior year are said to be easier that the AP tests. (My opinion is that because it's so hard throughout your years the tests are easier...whereas since AP gives you so much more freedom throughout the years, the tests are harder). Also, I think even though I didn't get a lot of credits through the tests, I felt college was easier after going through IB. It definitely prepares you a little more. It's based on a 5.0 GPA.. This is good because colleges look at GPAs based on a 4.0 scale. So 3.8 is ok out of 5.0, but pretty good on the 4.0 scale.

    So, I totally know this isn't what you were looking for in this post...but thought I'd share my 2 cents. 

    I would say that the sports should probably be the only reason to go to Ironwood..besides the location. :D You can definitely find comparable programs to IB out there.

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  • When I went to HS, we were 2A and I had only 80 students in my grad class. Nice since we all knew each other, everyone was active in multiple extracurricular activities.  Our school at the time didn't offer AP, but that was quite a few years ago when AP was still pretty new concept, but now my understanding is more schools offer them to prepare highschoolers for college. I went to the university, took a little adjustment but wasn't horrible. It did feel weird to go from knowing everyone (teachers and students alike) to just being a number.  For sports, some of my friends still received college and university scholarships in football and baseball. (our school basketball team was not that great). Some of the kids went and did the club sports up here in the valley to get more exposure and higher competition.  I say let him pick which school he wants. They'll both have opportunities for him.
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