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McCain looks weak
What genius staffer dreamed up the idea of postponing the debate?
- His proposal gives Obama the power to accept or reject, meaning O has all the power, here.
- If Obama rejects (which he did), McCain has been painted into an awkward corner.
- McCain looks like he can't handle more than one thing at a time.
- McCain looks like he doesn't want to debate Obama.
- Bottom line, this was a boneheaded decision on some staffers part. Someone should get fired.
Just wanted to throw in my two cents.
Re: McCain looks weak
Lol! In that case, this person should be banished from the Beltway.
LMAO.
I'm not sure this is so bad for McCain. My instinct is Dems will think it is politicizing the crisis and is meant to distract from this week's bad polling for McCain/stop Obama's momentum. Republicans will accept the "Country First" explanation as the gospel truth and think Obama is a jerk for not going along. But they probably already thought he was a jerk.
I can't for the life of me think like an independent to imagine how this will play for them.
I do think rejecting the proposal to postpone the debate was the only way to go, though, and I'm glad about that.
I'm not sure this is so bad for McCain. My instinct is Dems will think it is politicizing the crisis and is meant to distract from this week's bad polling for McCain/stop Obama's momentum. Republicans will accept the "Country First" explanation as the gospel truth and think Obama is a jerk for not going along. But they probably already thought he was a jerk.
This is the crux of it right here, IMO.
I think the way this decision is viewed is going to be through your own political lens. Democrats are going to cheer, "Good for Obama! McCain is stalling and politicizing!" and Republicans are going to hear, "See, we told you. Obama doesn't put the country--in an economic crisis no less--first."
It's a sticky situation, being made only stickier now by the fact the talking heads are starting to scream back and forth on who is right, which is the right thing and whether or not the debate should be going on.
Discussion of the bailout and the legislation itself could very well be pushed aside for a few hours while everyone discusses the suspension/non-suspension of the campaigns and the debate...
Ditto. As I said in the previous post, I actually think it was really smart. McCain and Obama will debate, and it doesn't matter if it happens Friday or next week. Both camps will spin this, and Repubs and Dems will agree with the spin from their own side for the most part. Independents, well, that's been the question all along. What will it take to get them onboard with either candidate?
IMO, McCain now shows that he puts campaigning on a lower priority than the needs of this country--and he now has two examples he can point to--the RNC/hurricane, and this financial crisis/debate. I personally don't think it's all political, but but I do think it benefits him politically, if that makes sense.
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The nest must have ate my response to carolina00 about asking my DH who is the ultimate independent swinging back & forth daily on who is going to vote for.
He has been anxiously awaiting the debates but he has also been moaning all week about this financial mess.
So I can't wait for him to get home and hear his take.
I just wanted to pop on briefly to say I'm really proud of Obama's response on this one. Any other Dem would have kow-towed to McCain's BS on country first. Obama's quote about this being EXACTLY the time the nation needs to hear from the candidates about their economic plans was not only brilliant, but also happens to be the truth. McCain has admitted he doesn't understand squat about economics, and the nation should learn that pronto. Also, as Obama said, a president should be able to deal with two things at once. Crisises don't always happen one at a time when you are leading a country.
I also agree that this will be seen through whatever political lens you are wearing, but I hope independents and undecideds see this as a fundamentally weak play by McCain, a candidate who is losing the electoral college by a landslide, has poor debate skills and is lagging in fundraising and picked a fundamentally unqualified candidate as his running mate as a cheap political stunt. Weak, weak, weak.
I agree with BM in that any other Dem would have complied with the Republican demands and I am very happy Obama did not.
Another thought...how much do you think this debate delay is really about delaying Palin's turn in the spotlight?
DH agrees with McCain. He thinks all focus now needs to be on getting this bill passed.
He did waffle at one point and said maybe their having the debate so we can hear what they think about economic issues would be good. But when I told him the debate Friday night was about foreign policy, he immediately went back to no debate. He doesn't want to hear foreign policy right now. He wants this mess straight by Monday morning.
I suggested the view of they could multi task - still head to the debate Friday night and then go back. He goes off into 2 hour flight there, the debate, 2 hours back. A waste of time in his opinion. He says multitasking is good but there are some issues that need priority attention and right now the economy is it.
So there is an undecided independent voter's opinion on this.
In all honesty--this does not surprise me for McCain is neither.
Also-this debate this week is on foreign policy, no? Yeah, that is important. So, McCain will actually come out ahead, imo.
This is my tinfoil hat theory.
I'm also really pleased with Obama's response.
He needs to make serious amends for this craptastic comment.
I don't think the Oct 2nd debate would have to be delayed. Why couldn't they do them back to back? (not being snarky, but I am curious if there is a reason other than news media needs/logistics).
Except most people want action in the face of an economic crisis, not just talk.