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Drama at work- need your opinion...
There are 4 people that work in my office. 2 women (me and the president of the company), 2 men (sales guys).
The 2 men have a tendency to play as their own team and not include the women. A few years ago, when our owner was alive, they gave him a birthday card signed by just them, and didn't offer me a chance to sign it. Owner was furious they excluded me. I kind of felt like a douche because I didn't do anything for his bday, but no big deal.
The owner's widow now owns the company, but does not work in the office. Her mother died last week. The president of the company sent a plant to the owner and signed the card with all of our names, she then texted the males and said she did this in everyone's name. (I was out of town so had no input).
President found out yesterday that the 2 males sent a plant on their own to the owner. She is upset because they excluded the rest of the people from the team, they didn't offer for anyone else to go in on it. It's not about the plant, but about the exclusion. If it had been just from Male 1 and his wife or Male 2 and his wife, no big deal. But it was the 2 males together.
Now HUGE drama has erupted. I am doing my best to stay out of it, but like any small office, it is not easy.
Thoughts? The men absolutely think they did nothing wrong. Pres is furious and thinks they did everything wrong. I can see both sides and don't think it's a huge issue.
Re: Drama at work- need your opinion...
Well, it sucks to be them at this point! Has anyone talked to them about it and asked them why they continue to "be sneaky" and do this...looking like they're trying to score brownie points? Maybe they just don't get it.
I don't understand the being furious about it...but it's definitely shady.
Did the guys send the plant after they knew that the President sent the plant? If so, I can see why the President is upset. The additional gift from the men makes the original gift look like it was a farce, not really from everbody, it looks like one person just sent it which sort of weakens the message that it's from all.
I bet that the guys don't even realize how it makes everyone else look when they send something just from the two of them. They probably are super proud of themselves for thinking to send anything!
The president could send a short email saying that it might be better to just send one group gift/card/whatever for things like this, but the truth is that everyone has the right to send whatever they want, and to include whoever they want.
I work in a small office too, so I know how little dramas can be overblown.
Judging
do they seem to be sneaky about it? are they brown nosers normally and think they will get brownie points?
i would be annoyed if it was an obvious exclusion on their part. or they are dumb because lots of guys are.
Ok seems like everyone is on the same page as me. I totally agree that it was a bit sneaky and that it does come off at brown-noserish, but I also realize they have the right to send something if they want.
Wish everyone would just take a chill pill and simmer down around here! Small offices suck sometimes.
Eh, I get the small office setting but I can also see both sides...the guys are sales guys and when you're in that world its all about the customer, so they probably view her as a client and would send a card or flowers as if it was any other client of theirs, and probably don't even think about how it looks. It is hard in those settings because sales people are often times the lone wolf and out doing their own things so if something like this happens they feel like its their responsibility to send something themselves.
This. It's probably just an automatic response to send flowers.