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Discuss?

Verona put this on her blog last week re: Negative comments, bullying, etc.

http://veronabrit.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2010-10-21T20%3A27%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=5

Maybe I'm a softie when it comes to her, because I have come to really like her, but it bugs that people are so determined to talk sh*t on her blog.

I'm all for a throw down when people are being inflammatory, saying things I think are ignorant, when issues are being discussed that are highly political, emotional, whateva whateva, but I don't get stalking an innocuous style blog to leave jerk comments.

Do you think it just comes with the territory and people should suck it up?


Re: Discuss?

  • Yes.  I mean, were Leno and Letterman bullies when they made fun of Bush?  Is anyone who calls Paris Hilton insipid?  If you make yourself a public persoona, people are going to comment, often negatively.  Suck it up and quit your whining.

    That said, I don't get visiting and commenting on Verona's blog.  That just gives her more attention. 

    ETA: Also, she's holding herself out to be some sort of fashion and beauty expert and people are calling her vapid and saying she uses too much product.  Not unexpected. It's not like she's writing a blog about her family and people are randomly commenting that she's fat and dresses like a grandma.

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  • It depends. The comments she seems to get don't seem *that* bad. They're kids of in the same ilk as the comments made about that Megan blogger on ML last week, i.e. I don't think they're examples of "bullying".

    I sort of think these things come with the territory. If your blog is making you money (and I don't think Verona's is, she doesn't seem to have any ads), I think you have to just suck it up and realize that if you put yourself out there, people are going to have opinions. 

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  • I don't know, I just see a difference. I do think that if you are going to be a politician, a public figure with strong opinions regarding hot button issues (pro-life/pro-choice, gay marriage, health care, education), or anything else that garners strong opinions or feelings, then you should be aware that criticism and ridicule can come with the territory. The same goes for if you are like Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan and publicly make ridiculous, irresponsible decisions, all while marketing yourself to an impressionable age group. 

     

  • oh, I like her tuesday outfit.  that dress is really cute. 

    I think is really odd that anyone would write mean things on a persons blog just because they can.  I don't think there is anything wrong with her pointing it out. 

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  • Why is that different from marketing you strong opinions about appearance?  And she can just moderate the comments--easy peasy.
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  • imageFallinAgain:
    Why is that different from marketing you strong opinions about appearance?  And she can just moderate the comments--easy peasy.

    Exactly.

    Verona likes F21 dress.

    Reader thinks dress is fug. Comments on relative fugness of dress.

    Rinse, repeat.

    ????

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  • She lost me at this:

    I know that these comments can only come from a place of deep, deep sadness and dissatisfaction with one's own self.

    Let's be real -- not everyone who leaves a negative comment is doing it because it makes them feel better about themselves.  Verona is old enough to know that not every kid who picked on her in school did it because they were jealous.  The people leaving negative comments on the Under 1000 blog were not doing so because they wished they could live in a dirty, cluttered deathtrap. 

    Everyone has something that sparks their disgust.  For some, that's going to be somebody who is interested in fashion and beauty (or Verona's version of F&B).  For others, it's Obama's birth certificate.  Whatever.  If it's just a negative comment on your blog, who cares?  I agree it's a public blog and you have to accept the downside of that is dealing with the public.  It's her prerogative to moderate the comments (although I wonder if that does any good since she still ends up seeing what people are saying) as the owner of the blog.  

    I just don't get commenting on any blog.  It seems silly to me.  And the comments on news stories and blogs and youtube videos usually consists of people with poor grammar and who think that "gay" is the ultimate insult, so I don't really think much of people who leave them.  I'm only interested in the entertaining comments.  And maybe for some of the people leaving comments, that's what they're doing (similar to what happens when we get going here -- the comments are more for our own entertainment than anything else).  But some people are just assholios, so there's that too.

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  • imageBobLoblaw:

    It depends. The comments she seems to get don't seem *that* bad. They're kids of in the same ilk as the comments made about that Megan blogger on ML last week, i.e. I don't think they're examples of "bullying".

    I sort of think these things come with the territory. If your blog is making you money (and I don't think Verona's is, she doesn't seem to have any ads), I think you have to just suck it up and realize that if you put yourself out there, people are going to have opinions. 

    True, I haven't seen actual examples of what people were saying, so they may not have been that bad. And it's true that if you are putting up pictures of yourself, you have to accept that some people might tell you that you look awesome, and some might tell you you don't. 

    I also see a difference between talking to your friends about how you find a blog annoying, as opposed to trying to make sure that the blogger and her readers see it. That's probably kind of hypocritical of me.

  • Wait though, Jens.  She isn't just posting a picture of herself and people are saying she looks bad.  If that were the case, I'd be more sympathetic (still--simple solution is to moderate).  She is holding herself out as a sort of expert on looking good.  She's saying this outfit is stylish or this eyeshadow done this way looks good, right?  So people are saying, no or it's stupid to care so much about style.

    Why should people only get to comment on people who express opinions on hot button issues?  Because it's ridiculous to care what a random blogger thinks is a cute top?  I'd agree with you there, but not that her only posting opinions on non-important shiit should somehow exempt her from comments back.

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  • Like others have said, if you put yourself out there with a blog, you have to be willing to take the negative with the positive. It's one thing if you are posting a few pics for grandma and just didn't realize you needed to make your blog private. It's quite another when you are touting yourself as an expert at something and trying to drive traffic to your blog. I don't think the fact that it's not a hot topic issue exempts her from comments.

    I also think the people that feel strongly enough about something as silly as Verona to leave hateful comments are silly, but whatever floats your boat. I do wonder what the comments actually were though. Were they really that bad or just not the reaction she wanted?

    I'm too lazy to have a blog or to leave comments on other blogs. 

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  • imageFallinAgain:

    Wait though, Jens.  She isn't just posting a picture of herself and people are saying she looks bad.  If that were the case, I'd be more sympathetic (still--simple solution is to moderate).  She is holding herself out as a sort of expert on looking good.  She's saying this outfit is stylish or this eyeshadow done this way looks good, right?  So people are saying, no or it's stupid to care so much about style.

    Why should people only get to comment on people who express opinions on hot button issues?  Because it's ridiculous to care what a random blogger thinks is a cute top?  I'd agree with you there, but not that her only posting opinions on non-important shiit should somehow exempt her from comments back.

    I agree that people should be able to have opinions and comment on whatever they want, not just on what I, or the general public deem to be important or hot button. I'm saying I understand why people get so much more riled up and take the time to comment on those more important things.I don't understand why people would take time to stew over and post mean comments about a fashion blogger. If people want to waste their time acting that way, then fine. I'm just saying I think they're asssholes, and they're lame for spending their time dreaming up insults to post anonymously on a blog about clothes and makeup.

  • imageCaliopeSpidrman:
    I'm only interested in the entertaining comments.

    Like all the comments on Amazon about the 3 wolf moon t shirt.

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  • Well, yeah. I agree with that.  Similiarly, why would someone take their time to blog about fashion?  It seems like a silly waste of time to me, but that's just me.  But you have to think if there are people like Veronika who care enough and think about it enough to blog about this kind of stuff, there are people who care enough and think about it enough to get riled up about it.   
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  • you know, I've mentioned this re her blog before, but while I guess it's a "comes w/ the territory" kind of thing, she DOES seem to have a lot of haters.  I don't know that I feel oh so sorry for Verona, but I have to question the kind of person that leaves that type of feedback.  It just seems so petty to go out of your way to comment that her belt looks cheap.  I find that incredibly catty.
  • I think that just raises the question of whether there's something about Veronika's persona or posting style that causes a lot of negative reaction.

    I agree that it's petty to comment on a belt looking cheap, but then, I think it's petty to blog about a belt.  If fashion's your thing, I can see why people would comment.  I'm more questioning of comments about her confidence or intellect. I mean a comment about a belt seems pretty on topic for a fashion blog.

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  • imageAngieP900:

    imageCaliopeSpidrman:
    I'm only interested in the entertaining comments.

    Like all the comments on Amazon about the 3 wolf moon t shirt.

    And the comments to this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=281ax7Ovlsg&p=74EA499BC3AAF832&playnext=1&index=16

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  • imageFallinAgain:

    I think that just raises the question of whether there's something about Veronika's persona or posting style that causes a lot of negative reaction.

    I agree that it's petty to comment on a belt looking cheap, but then, I think it's petty to blog about a belt.  If fashion's your thing, I can see why people would comment.  I'm more questioning of comments about her confidence or intellect. I mean a comment about a belt seems pretty on topic for a fashion blog.

    I don't know.. maybe it's just me, but the gist I get from her nasty comments is that they come from chicks who are pissed that Veronika thinks she's hot.  It would be one thing if it appeared to be other fashion-bloggy type losers who had a real opinion on the ugly belt (which would be disturbing on a differing level).  And incidentally, the belts generally are ugly.

     

  • The only thing that really bothers me is the timing of this blog entry. It comes right on the heels of last week's Megan bashing on ML which you know Verona was around for and read... To me, it smells a little like "Hey! Hey guys! Don't forget about meeee! I have a fashion blog and I have haters toooooooo!" Nearly every post I've read of late on ML that involved Verona was actually borderline praising her for not crumbling under the haters and the nasty comments. And she loved that.  Suddenly, one annonymous poster saying they think her belt is ugly 5 times in a row broke her? I don't buy it. She has far worse things flung at her here. It's weird. She fancies herself a martyr.
  • imageHezzerlah:
    The only thing that really bothers me is the timing of this blog entry. It comes right on the heels of last week's Megan bashing on ML which you know Verona was around for and read... To me, it smells a little like "Hey! Hey guys! Don't forget about meeee! I have a fashion blog and I have haters toooooooo!" Nearly every post I've read of late on ML that involved Verona was actually borderline praising her for not crumbling under the haters and the nasty comments. And she loved that.  Suddenly, one annonymous poster saying they think her belt is ugly 5 times in a row broke her? I don't buy it. She has far worse things flung at her here. It's weird. She fancies herself a martyr.

    I tend to agree w/ this.  It would've been one thing if she just made her comments "approval required" w/out the dramatic diatribe. 

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