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annoyed w/Bug

Bug has hit the terrible 11s. Every.fvcking.thing is a power struggle. She argues and sneaks all the time and IMO, for no reason. For example: candy. We don't have tight rules about candy, but she's supposed to ask. Usually I'll just say yes, or at the most have her eat some fruit first. But the other day I'm looking for a pencil sharpener and find just stashes of candy wrappers. WTF?

This morning was so aggravating. Mr M caught her in bed reading in her pjs when she should have been getting ready. She comes upstairs in obviously dirty clothes, argues about me about if they're dirty. Says her hair is brushed when it's obviously not. Can't find her brush, tries to blame Mr M (?!), won't admit that means she can't possibly have brushed her hair. Messed up the kitchen making her lunch and just left it. Riles up her brother right after I asked her to be calm with him so he could get back to sleep after we dropped her off. She was late to school. She's been late every morning this week. The school just called b/c she's been marked absent instead of checking in at the office on her way to class.

She's at her dad's this weekend, so I can't really ground her immediately. WWCND? 

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Re: annoyed w/Bug

  • I wonder if she's already one step ahead of you and thinking "I'm at Dad's this weekend! Haha! You can't touch me!" (I would have been at that age) so I'd just save whatever punishment for when she gets back. Don't tell her until she gets back, though.
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  • It's never too early to send them off to one of those Scared Straight camps.
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  • Boarding school it is!

    I'd go ahead and punish her as if she isn't going and let her know it will continue when she gets back.   Don't listen to me, though, I know sweeteffall about parenting.

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  • Yeah, I think by the time she gets back from ex's we're so happy to have her back we forget about punishment. Plus she's usually had a miserable time there -- he has no age appropriate things for her to do, so she mostly sits around while he plays WoW or online games. Ugh.
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    "The meek shall inherit the earth" isn't about children. It's about deer. We're all going to get messed the fuckup by a bunch of cloned super-deer.- samfish2bcrab

    Sometimes I wonder if scientists have never seen a sci-fi movie before. "Oh yes, let's create a super species of deer. NOTHING COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG." I wonder if State Farm offers a Zombie Deer Attack policy. -CaliopeSpidrman
  • is this maybe why she acts up?   She's already got the blues about the coming weekend?
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  • imagesamfish2bcrab:
    is this maybe why she acts up?   She's already got the blues about the coming weekend?

    Maybe, but there's fuckall I can do about that. But yeah, it feels like I'm punishing her twice.

    I hate punishment. Why can't kids just be good? 

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    "The meek shall inherit the earth" isn't about children. It's about deer. We're all going to get messed the fuckup by a bunch of cloned super-deer.- samfish2bcrab

    Sometimes I wonder if scientists have never seen a sci-fi movie before. "Oh yes, let's create a super species of deer. NOTHING COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG." I wonder if State Farm offers a Zombie Deer Attack policy. -CaliopeSpidrman
  • My brother did the same thing before we'd go to our dad's for the weekend. Not because of lack of age-appropriate stuff, just because our dad was a jerk, but you know. Is there any way you could pack her up with like...board games and other things she'd enjoy doing over there? Or would that cause strife with the exH?

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  • So what you're telling me is that it never ends...I was hoping for a 100% self-sufficient child by the time he hit 10.  This post suggests otherwise, and is making me really unhappy.
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  • Not a parent. Feeling like I might be a little alarmist, but I'd be tempted to pay attention to Bug hiding food. Your sister has an eating disorder and my understanding is this tween age is a likely time when girls develop them.
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  • Noisy, she packs a bag every time w/books, games and art projects. But she needs some interaction, ya know? Actually when he first moved back we didn't pack anything the first visit and apparently she sat and stared at the wall for several hours. Ex didn't see anything wrong with that, thought she must be "unwinding". I.could.have.killed.him.

    Mod, good thought. Well, terrifying thought anyway. It's one reason I'm so lax about food and candy even though she's a little overweight.

    Maybe a visit with a family counselor could help. Ugh, I hate going there. 

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    "The meek shall inherit the earth" isn't about children. It's about deer. We're all going to get messed the fuckup by a bunch of cloned super-deer.- samfish2bcrab

    Sometimes I wonder if scientists have never seen a sci-fi movie before. "Oh yes, let's create a super species of deer. NOTHING COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG." I wonder if State Farm offers a Zombie Deer Attack policy. -CaliopeSpidrman
  • I would punish her anyway.  I really do think she feels like you can't punish her because she's leaving and won't do it when she gets back because you're just happy she's home.

    You perfectly described the type of behavior we're dealing with M.  I know I'm still new at this, but one thing we try to do is make sure that there is a clear punishment (restrict a privilege he really loves, no video games, for example), but that there are still other things we can do together.  That way, it shows him that we aren't mean ogres who hate him, but he still feels the pain.  If he's really bad, we will extend the punishment for a longer period rather than take everything away.  Does that make sense?

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    <snip>Mod, good thought. Well, terrifying thought anyway. It's one reason I'm so lax about food and candy even though she's a little overweight.

    Maybe a visit with a family counselor could help. Ugh, I hate going there. 

    I hated to even say it but I don't think hiding food is a typical bratty kid behavior.

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  • Problem #265: what she likes most is reading. I feel like a real as$hole telling my kid she's grounded from books. Maybe I'll make her do extra chores or something.

    Nov- it doesn't end...exactly, but the times and ways they need you change. Sometimes back and forth (she's been wanting her belly blown when I do Dimi's lately, little weirdo). But the ways they can make you feel suddenly incompetent and overwhelmed are boundless.

    And then you realize in 5 years they'll have a driver's license and then they'll move out and you won't get to cuddle them or read them stories ever again and they'll probably *** to their boyfriends about coming over to dinner and you feel even worse.

    /sad trombone.

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    "The meek shall inherit the earth" isn't about children. It's about deer. We're all going to get messed the fuckup by a bunch of cloned super-deer.- samfish2bcrab

    Sometimes I wonder if scientists have never seen a sci-fi movie before. "Oh yes, let's create a super species of deer. NOTHING COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG." I wonder if State Farm offers a Zombie Deer Attack policy. -CaliopeSpidrman
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    Problem #265: what she likes most is reading. I feel like a real as$hole telling my kid she's grounded from books. Maybe I'll make her do extra chores or something.

    I was exactly this way. My mother never found an acceptable way to punish me.

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  • Sounds like she is just begging for attention. Maybe spend some quality time with just her. I loved to read also but my mom would ground me and make me do chores too.
  • It's funny, every time I see Bug these days (weekly), I can just tell that she's a little more teenagery aloof and a little less little girl giggly/silly than she was the week before. Puberty. Ack.

     I totally hid candy because my house was very food restrictive...but then I was an overweight kid who turned in to an overweight teenager and am now an overweight adult so there's that.

    Mouse, does she have self esteem issues related to weight? I ask because even if she knows you would let her have candy, she may be embarrassed to ask if she feels bad about herself (I did).

    I was the same way about reading. I got grounded from books in the 4th grade for not doing my homework. It sucked but I think it was effective. Extra chores also sucked.

    Sorry you're going through this. Let's hope teenage boys are easier.

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  • Another one who hid food, although mine was also a very restrictive food house and it turned me the other way. To this day I battle it out with my Mom over food.
  • Seanie is napping on my shoulder right now, it's hard to imagine him a surly teen.


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    "The meek shall inherit the earth" isn't about children. It's about deer. We're all going to get messed the fuckup by a bunch of cloned super-deer.- samfish2bcrab

    Sometimes I wonder if scientists have never seen a sci-fi movie before. "Oh yes, let's create a super species of deer. NOTHING COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG." I wonder if State Farm offers a Zombie Deer Attack policy. -CaliopeSpidrman
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