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"If you wait 'til you can afford it, you'll never have kids!"

I've been told this by no less than 4 different people.

My excuse when people ask (joking or not) when we're having kids has always been "When we can afford daycare!" Mainly because people my parents age have no clue what daycare  in 2010 costs (especially in this area). So what is that "advice" supposed to mean? Should I just have a kid and *hope* that we'll win the lottery or that my parents will move here and babysit for free? Because that extra $1600 a month for daycare? It's not there, folks! And we have no family in this area! And I'm pretty damn sure we don't qualify for any sort of aid!

No point to this really, just wanted to rant. 

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Re: "If you wait 'til you can afford it, you'll never have kids!"

  • I hate this advice so SO much.  I know I've ranted about this before.  The whole, "There's no such thing as a 'right time' to have kids."  Yes, but there is definitely such thing as a wrong time to have kids. 

    I can see how this can be even more frustrating for you since you live in the city with the highest cost of day care (based on average salary in the area).  

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  • I agree, it's super annoying.  We have a couple we're friends with and they used to tell us the same thing.  My response was always, well, if we lived in a house owned by our parents paying them $500 a month and had an other parent to watch my kids I could afford two kids just like you.  that pretty much shut them up. 

    not that I really wanted another kid anyway, but that they just couldn't even begin to comprehend. 

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  • I think there's definitely a right time to have kids, but maybe not a perfect time to have kids.
  • I frequently have this argument when it comes to #2.

    Their answer? One of you can stay home. Ah, yes, we both have been working all this time because we just love it so much. 

     

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  • Seriously. I'm effing hormonal right now, but it's really pissing me off. Like, if I take that "advice" I guess I'll never have kids? WTF. That makes me feel wonderful. Goddammit, I just want one! One and done, people! ONE AND DONE.
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  • I think there is some truth to this statement (as in, you will always think you need to save more before you will be comfortable with baby expenses, or at least I feel that way).  But that does NOT apply to freaking day care.  That's insane.

    My mom said something last week about my cousin's kid spending so much time in daycare and how sad it is.  I asked her if she realized my hypothetical kids would also be in daycare a lot of the time, and she said, "Can't you get a nanny?"  Sure mom, if you want to pay for it.


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  • I have little understanding of how almost anyone affords $1600 a month for daycare. It's one of the many reasons I wanted to leave Chicago.  Nothing the city had to offer was enough to compensate for rent/mortgage and childcare prices.
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  • imageKayRI:
    I think there's definitely a right time to have kids, but maybe not a perfect time to have kids.

     This.  I'd say that if you're trying to wait for the *perfect* time when you've paid off all debt and are sitting atop your financially stable perch, you will never have them.  But, yeah, waiting until you can afford the basics of childcare w/out starving is a good idea.

     

  • hormonal bethie is scary, but a fun scary.
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  • I honestly don't know how people do it. I've pretty much given up on my dreams of home ownership, we're not "fancy" people, we've taken 2 vacations in 2 years, we drive a Chevy and a Honda, ffs, etc. etc. etc. But if my IUD were to fail at this point, I honestly don't know what we would do. Move to Roxbury or something. lol
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  • imageBobLoblaw:
    I honestly don't know how people do it. I've pretty much given up on my dreams of home ownership, we're not "fancy" people, we've taken 2 vacations in 2 years, we drive a Chevy and a Honda, ffs, etc. etc. etc. But if my IUD were to fail at this point, I honestly don't know what we would do. Move to Roxbury or something. lol
  • imageBobLoblaw:
    I honestly don't know how people do it. I've pretty much given up on my dreams of home ownership, we're not "fancy" people, we've taken 2 vacations in 2 years, we drive a Chevy and a Honda, ffs, etc. etc. etc. But if my IUD were to fail at this point, I honestly don't know what we would do. Move to Roxbury or something. lol

     Where the hell do you live again??  I kinda agree w/ you though. I live in a LCOL area, make a good bit more than the avg person in this area, and still pretty much just manage to pay bills and mortgage w/ a little spending money and savings left over.  Our house is inexpensive, we drive cheap cars... It's not like we're over here living it up and a lot of ppl around here earn less than we do.  It's cookey.  Life is f'ing expensive.

  • I'm jealous of the people who can count on their parents for day care.  As much as I love to dream about my mom quitting her job to watch my future spawn, I know it's just not going to happen.  Honestly, even if she did retire, I doubt my mom would want to start watching my kid anyway. 
    I also doubt my parents will be dropping everything to come help me as I recover after giving birth.  I'm surprised at how many people's parents do this.  I think my parents are broken, y'all.
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  • Shut your face, Mashed, or you're gonna get Bethiestrangled
  • imageCaliopeSpidrman:
    I'm jealous of the people who can count on their parents for day care.  As much as I love to dream about my mom quitting her job to watch my future spawn, I know it's just not going to happen.  Honestly, even if she did retire, I doubt my mom would want to start watching my kid anyway. 
    I also doubt my parents will be dropping everything to come help me as I recover after giving birth.  I'm surprised at how many people's parents do this.  I think my parents are broken, y'all.

    Yes.

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  • Oh, I forgot about my dad's comment:

    Dad: Don't worry about daycare.

    Me: Oh, so you and Mom are moving here and watching my kid?

    Dad: No, you move here! Wait, I don't think South Carolina has libraries...

     

    Don't worry???? WTF? (His last comment made me lol, though)

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  • My MIL wanted to keep Liza for us, but then I would've had to (a) talk to my MIL daily; and (b) have a kid who said things like "plaskit", "wal-marts" and "warshington".

     No thanks.

     I love daycare. 

  • Your problem is that you're being honest about your reasons.  You should try going with "We're waiting until Mr. Bobloblaw loses interest in cunnilingus since having a baby will do irreparable damage to my vagina, and he really really loves my hopscotch just the way it is."

    They'll probably stop asking.

    And also, you could just move to South Jersey.  We have libraries, and I'll give you a discount on the daycare I start when you pay me to stay home and watch our babies.

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  • Bob, my mom also thinks I should move to where they live in order to get free daycare.  Next door to them, even!

    Except I wouldn't be able to find a job in my field, so she suggested I become a teacher.  So I'll take a paycut and then build a freaking house to get free daycare.  This is a money-saver for sure.


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  • Mulva--we live just outside Boston. My workplace has a daycare that I think is about $800/month, but they don't take kids until 2 years 8 months. So what the hell do we do until then?
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  • imageGroomzMcFinehiney:

    And also, you could just move to South Jersey.  We have libraries, and I'll give you a discount on the daycare I start when you pay me to stay home and watch our babies.

    Oooh, I'd love for you to watch my kid! S/he would have excellent taste in television.

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  • I think this sounds like a great plan -- Groomz and Bethie move here and Groomz can watch our kids while we bring home the bacon wrapped water chestnuts.
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  • Yeah, don't worry about it, just get knocked up. Worst advice ever. I hate the thought of daycare. We budgeted for our house with daycare costs in mind and we don't even have kids yet.

    On the cost front, are you open to in-home daycares? My kid will have to go to one because centers are too damn expensive. Have you seen this site? http://www.eec.state.ma.us/ChildCareSearch/EarlyEduMap.aspx. Daycare provider search and a lot of them list rates. 

     

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  • imageBobLoblaw:
    Mulva--we live just outside Boston. My workplace has a daycare that I think is about $800/month, but they don't take kids until 2 years 8 months. So what the hell do we do until then?

    We have libraries in RI.

     

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  • imagecmc714:

    On the cost front, are you open to in-home daycares? My kid will have to go to one because centers are too damn expensive. Have you seen this site? http://www.eec.state.ma.us/ChildCareSearch/EarlyEduMap.aspx. Daycare provider search and a lot of them list rates. 

     

    Oooh, I have not! Thank you! 

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  • imageBobLoblaw:
    Mulva--we live just outside Boston. My workplace has a daycare that I think is about $800/month, but they don't take kids until 2 years 8 months. So what the hell do we do until then?

    You sit on their foffing waiting list, because that's how long it will take to get in.

    Re: "Can't you get a nanny?" How on earth is that so much better?  I love the structured nature of the daycare and the socialization it allows/requires.  

    I also don't get how people pay $1600/mo for daycare.  How do service industries even exist in those areas?  I think an infant around here is usually around $150/wk and that's even probably too much to make sense for people who make around minimum wage.

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  • The minimum wage here is way above the national average.  I'm going to assume that's probably the case in Boston too.
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  • We pay $1600 a month for daycare.  Granted our center is affiliated with a hospital and caters to professionals, but the price wasn't far out of the range of other places I looked at in Providence.
  • Off the books, unlicensed, in-home daycare is an option if you have crazy awesome references.  My close friend's mom did that and I would consider it an option if she was still taking kids (even though my kid would probably become a holy roller in the process).

    I agree, though, parents have no idea what daycare costs.  A good reason/excuse I used to use was "waiting to find a new job with better mat leave/benefits and I can't get the job I want until I have a few more years of experience under my belt."

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  • imagewendyld:

    You sit on their foffing waiting list, because that's how long it will take to get in.

    Seriously.  I should've put myself on a wait list the day we conceived.

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