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Debate

Do you think mental illness can be an explanation of violence or not?
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  • I think you need to be more specific when you say "violence".  For example, there's gang violence, and spousal abuse.  I don't necessarily think those two are in the same violence category.  
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  • I would say violence towards someone or something. Look at the kid that just tried to killl the one senator and killed 6 other people while injuring others. They are saying that he was a kid who had schizophranic tendencies, may have ben diagnosed as having the disorder, etc.  I was just wondering what people thought.

    Have you known anyone with a mental illness? Because they have a mental disorder, does it make you feel different about them? Do you think that they are more violent than someone who has not be diagnosed with that type of disorder? Just trying to get some conversation flowing here.

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  • The question is too broad.

    Absolutely mental illness can cause violence in some people. 

    No, a person with a mental illness is not necessarily more violent than someone without.

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  • Mental disorders are wide ranging.  Some disorders are associated with more violent tendencies, but much like anything, someone with Disorder X will not necessarily be violent. 

    If someone is truly suffering from a mental disorder that causes them to act out violently, and due to the disorder they do not understand their actions, I do not believe in punishing that person for their actions.

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    Have you known anyone with a mental illness? Because they have a mental disorder, does it make you feel different about them? Do you think that they are more violent than someone who has not be diagnosed with that type of disorder? Just trying to get some conversation flowing here.

    Yes, a couple people close to me have a mental illness (one being a very serious one).  Why would a mental illness make me feel any differently towards them?  They have a illness that affects the brain( or brain chemicals). I don't feel any differently towards them because of their disease, just  I wouldn't think any different of anyone who had an illness that affected the stomach. 

     

    (grammar police, sorry if I messed up affect and effect. )

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  • I agree--this is too broad of a subject.

    I have recently been diagnosed with severe depression and severe OCD. However, that doesn't make me want to kill someone....but it's still a mental illness.

    You really have to go case by case. And no, I don't judge people who have a mental illness. I wouldn't judge someone who had the flu or cancer or diabetes. Why would I judge them for an illness they can't help? I might judge a little if they refuse to get help, though.

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    I agree--this is too broad of a subject.

    I have recently been diagnosed with severe depression and severe OCD. However, that doesn't make me want to kill someone....but it's still a mental illness.

    You really have to go case by case. And no, I don't judge people who have a mental illness. I wouldn't judge someone who had the flu or cancer or diabetes. Why would I judge them for an illness they can't help? I might judge a little if they refuse to get help, though.

     

    I was having this conversation with a friend last night. She is extremely thinking that this individual should burn in hell no matter what he did and if he had a mental illness that made him think this way, etc. In some of the reports, it stated that he has/had severe mental problems and schizoprania by some reports. But I agree, mental disorders do not simply make a personal more violent, etc. Some mental disorders may have more violent tendencies than others if they dont get the proper therapy, medication mix, etc.

    I was just wondering about the stigma of mental disorders in general also. Mira - you hit it on the head. Just because someone has a mental disorder, doesn't make the person any different. Not their fault, it's a chemical imbalance and all that in their brain. And I hate the word disease, it's not a disease it's a disorder. I know it's quite a burden to have to deal with one, etc. My biological mom has bipolar 1, manic depressive, and schizopranic tendencies. SHe has been in her own little world, done some bad things, etc. until the last 2 years where she has been "sane". Before then, she didn't care what she did, how her actions affected her husband and family members, etc. Now that she is sane, she is looking at the world at a different way - she is scared of certain things that she wasnt before, has anxiety, etc. But she is getting the proper care for that and I am proud of her for that. And it's all genetic. SHe has been this way since atleast the age of 4. If you have any comments or questions, fire away.

    I just thought it would be an interesting topic.

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    I was having this conversation with a friend last night. She is extremely thinking that this individual should burn in hell no matter what he did and if he had a mental illness that made him think this way, etc.

    Thankfully your friend doesn't write the laws or serve as a judge.  Not guilty by reason of insanity exists for a reason. 

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    imagecharitylynne_1979:

    I was having this conversation with a friend last night. She is extremely thinking that this individual should burn in hell no matter what he did and if he had a mental illness that made him think this way, etc.

    Thankfully your friend doesn't write the laws or serve as a judge.  Not guilty by reason of insanity exists for a reason. 

     

    Very true. And it will be interesting to learn more about what his motives were, etc. Cant always make a quick assumption about something like that etc even though we want to.

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  • One of my students took my throat in his hand and pushed me up against the chalkboard hard.  Why?  Because the therapy session didn't go the way he expected and his disabilities prevented him from having an appropriate response to his distress.  Did I take in personally?  No?  Do I think he really wanted to hurt me?  No.  Did it scare me?  Hell Yes.

    Brain chemistry and the resources we have to learn to cope with our illness are major considerations.  Some people are able to get top notch help & drugs work for them.  Others have no access to services, fall through the cracks, or feel MORE awful on their meds than off, so they don't take them.  

    There's no one answer.

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