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s/o BHM - School Curriculum
What do you guys think about teaching creationism in public schools?
Edited for clarity.
Re: s/o BHM - School Curriculum
As I stated in the BHM thread, I'm against it.
I'm in favor of introducing evolution as the leading theory as to how we came to be.
Some schools do, but under the words "intelligent design", and its not so much taught as it is a teacher says "and also, this is an idea", because beyond that, there's not much you can say. It doesn't exactly make for a full day of teaching.
There is a big misconception that creationism is the big counterargument to evolution, when really that's not true. Creationism is a theory for how everything got here, wheras Evolution is a theory for what happened to it once it got here. My biology teacher just said to us "To be honest, scientists really aren't sure how everything got here, so we're just going to start after its all here and go from there"
I'm in a weird position, because I do believe in Creation (Not in the "the earth is 6000 years old, Jesus rode dinosaurs" kind), but I don't think you can teach it in a way that is relevant to a science class. So short answer, no, outside a world religions or philosophy class, unless you're simply saying "some people believe this, lets move on", it doesn't need to be taught.
I completely agree.
I however am not against teaching about religious beliefs, as long as it is in a lesson about religion and includes multiple viewpoints.
By "how we came to be" I mean humans.
But, I do subscribe to the big bang as to the leading theory about how some parts all began too.
Another ditto.
Okay, but doesn't the big bang theory go hand in hand with evolution to describe how we got here? And I'm not sure I'm down with that teacher's take on just not talking about how we got here. Although I do completely understand a teacher's perspective and wanting to avoid the whole creation/evolution (and BBT).
ETA: That wasn't a diss towards your bio teacher being lazy or anything - I really do understand not wanting to address it. Tough position for teachers.
No offense taken. I was a sophomore in high school and he was very vague on this entire subject, which I totally get.
As for the two theories going hand in hand, they do, sort of, but the two are pretty separate theories, and they get mixed and matched with each other and other explanations in tons of ways. Using myself as an example, I believe in an intelligent designer, but I also believe that animals and people have had to adapt and change over the course of time to handle their changing environments.
ETA: me as an example.
Yeah, big bang and evolution do not necessarily go hand in hand, except that they are the leading theories in how everything came to be followed by how we came to be.
Even back when I was in school, creation was only mentioned as a theory, at least in my classes, and half of my schooling was at Christian schools. It's not like you can teach that scientifically, so mentioning it is pretty much all you can do.
Rai, I think you and I are on the same page with this somewhat, though I disagree that Creationism (big C) can coexist with evolution. The theories can coexist, but the way people who "want Creationism taught in school" tend to view things is much further reaching and includes a literal interepretation of genesis -- the world is much younger than scientists think, and man was here just a couple of days after the sun, so no centuries of evolution can even be considered.
I do believe that a higher power created the universe, but that has no place in public school (unless in a course about culture/religions of the world). I also accept the scientific evidence supporting evolution. For me, my lack of a need to read the bible literally allows me to accept both of these things without causing a conflict, but I think that the group of people who push for Creationism being taught in public schools in a science classroom are for the most part fundamentalists who believe in the literal word of the bible.