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Re: Niners
It hasn't stopped SW2B/STW from posting. I'm not saying that's right, but it's true.
Yup, SW2b does still post regardless of how she's received. It doesn't mean we can't all be more respectful and try to be more understanding.... mature discussion helps everyone - anger and contempt does nothing beneficial.
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I was respectful and fact based in all of my opinions until it was said that I do volunteer and mentoring work out of my own white privilege. That's nonsense, and I am not going to not stick up for myself when something like that is said.
Once again, I don't agree with what Smo has to say 99.95% of the time, but I will defend to the death her right to say it.
Stand up for something you believe in.
Agreed, but passion sometimes get in the way of that which again, doesn't make it right but it happens.
http://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/3/27868269/ShowThread.aspx
Funny how this was received vs the Anonymous09 poll.
You know, posting that thread in addition to the polls this morning doesn't really back up your statements about how people with dissenting opinions are welcome to share them. I agree that SMo and SW2B do get caught up in the heat of the moment and do not always argue their points in the best way, but at least they don't create anonymous polls to put people down, then brag about them on facebook.
I took it as geared towards the board in general since many responded in it but I could be wrong. Although, it could also be taken as showing an example where you did not defend someone, despite saying now that you would defend anyone against a poll such as this no matter who they where.
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the point which im trying to back up is that this isnt the only time it has happened. people have disagreed and "voted" before. no one jumped all over me for what i posted regarding SW2B. no one called that pathetic, or childish, or moronic, or against the TOS. 32 people voted. And many who threw insults at Anonymous09 participated in the SW2B "poll". they werent that concerned about HER feelings obviously.
so again with the hypocrisy all around.
I don't support SW2B because she's never been a friend to me off board, she purposefully antagonizes Niners, is blatantly rude, and contributes nothing to the board but drama. SMo and I have had disagreements, we even went a few months without talking to each other off board once, but regardless, she's a good person with good intentions and a good heart. She puts a lot of thought into how she approaches things on this board, and I don't think you all treat her fairly at all.
okay so you like and respect Smo and you are friends with her off board, which means you feel that you know her better than others and therefore, can defend her. whats the difference then if i defend Ames or MB when they are in arguments or feel personally attacked? when i do that, we all get accused of being a "team".
The fact that I didn't jump in and start attacking you guys, even though I did feel like Amelia was out of place both with her OP and with her subsequent comments. It was between SMo and Amelia, not the rest of us.
Also, I never made a passive aggressive badge for my siggy, legitimately marking myself as a member of a team.
my sig didnt have anything to do with Smo. it targeted SW2B and her calling us "team hairflip". upon your own admittance, targeting SW2B is okay.
my sig didnt have anything to do with Smo. it targeted SW2B and her calling us "team hairflip". upon your own admittance, targeting SW2B is okay.
Targeting her is not okay. I said why I didn't care that you guys did it, and why I didn't defend her like I am defending SMo. I'm not some super virtuous person, and I can admit that I'm a little hypocritical here. Whatever.
Team Rationality was geared toward SMo. You can twist and redirect the argument in whatever way you like. I don't like you, I never have, but I've also never started an argument with you and I'm not going to get into it here. I'm just defending my friend. Never in that defense did I put down you or Amelia, or anybody else on your "team" so I'm not sure why you're trying to fuel something right now.
i never placed myself in team rationality, and youre proving my point that if i defend people who are in that self proclaimed team, then i must be one of them.
my whole point is, we have the right to defend the people we are friends with. you can defend smo, there is nothing wrong with that. but i should be allowed to defend MY friends without being attacked back.
and thanks for your honesty regarding how you feel about me.
okay. youre right.
Just one little thing I'd like to add re:supporting a friend. Obviously, that's what friends are for - right? But, if 5-6 people step in to defend against one person - that's when things escalate. That's what causes the one person to get defensive - they have a handful of people to "battle", instead of just the one. I think in some cases, it's not necessary to jump in, or better ways of doing so which allows things calm down sooner.
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I also want to know how this whole team hairflip thing started.
Stees and Amelia had said ::hairflip:: and I had simply reiterated that inane comment.
I don't get this whole team thing. All I know is that there are some women on here who think they rule the board but, like you guys keep saying, it's a public board and beyond politeness, no one controls or owes anyone anything.
Amelia was not polite.
It's okay. I already bought this book for Ames:
I can assure you she's reading it carefully.
Si. Gracias!
De nada!
Admit it or not - It is a hostile environment here that follows the, "Hey, let's be open-minded and love everyone - unless I don't like what you believe. In which case, we'll be rude biitches who make fun of you." I agree with Smo and think it's sad that any time anyone stands up for something they believe in they need to "chill out" or quit taking life to seriously.
You're an idiot.
And now we've come full-circle.
updated 10.03.12
I'm really at a loss for words over this entire mess. I didnt see the polls mentioned but I will say they're incredibly immature and whomever it was that posted them should be ashamed of themselves.
That said, I think the entire conversation that took place on Friday was so full of ridiculous I dont even know where to begin. I've said this before: people on this board need to stop taking every single little comment and making it about them. Isnt that exhausting? I sincerely doubt anyone here is as hateful as some are made out to be. Not every comment has an underlying meaning nor is it as well thought out as the effort that some of you put into arguing that its offensive. And so what if there are teams or whatever the hell you guys are calling them? Is this 4th grade again? GET OVER IT.
Smo, I'm sad you felt the need to GBC9ers. I hope at some point you feel like you can come back.
As for the peeps who feel like they cant voice their opinion because they're afraid of getting flammed/being ganged up on....well sorry but that's your problem. The world isnt going to walk on egg shells around you so you feel comfortable stating your opinion. If you have something to say, say it. And then own it. You not saying what you want to say cant be blamed on anyone but yourself. Its part of being an adult.