Friday night at The Bishop's Collar...

laptopprancer

http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/53369940.aspx

 

jessica0602

As a former smoker who went out of my way to be kind to and separate myself from non smokers, I say good for you!  Also, eff them is right.  One of my biggest pet peeves is passive aggression.

larrysdarling

Eh, I don't know. I agree they could have handled it better by asking you to stop.

But I think it's rude to light up where people are eating.  Just because you can smoke on the patio doesn't mean you should. 

I think it sucks as a non-smoker to be confined to eating inside b/c people are using the outside eating area as a smoking section. I admit I am not familiar with The Bishop's Collar, so I don't know what their outside section looks like, but I know here in the Jerz people light up at a restaurant if there is any open roof-less space at all.

I think the smoking section should be completely separate from where anyone would be eating. In fact, I don't really even think restaurants even need to accomodate smokers. 

jessicah628

larrysdarling:

Eh, I don't know. I agree they could have handled it better by asking you to stop.

But I think it's rude to light up where people are eating.  Just because you can smoke on the patio doesn't mean you should. 

I think it sucks as a non-smoker to be confined to eating inside b/c people are using the outside eating area as a smoking section. I admit I am not familiar with The Bishop's Collar, so I don't know what their outside section looks like, but I know here in the Jerz people light up at a restaurant if there is any open roof-less space at all.

I think the smoking section should be completely separate from where anyone would be eating. In fact, I don't really even think restaurants even need to accomodate smokers. 

I agree with this, but I think that's on the restaurant, not on the patrons. 

Either way, passive aggressiveness sucks.

lachute

i know the smoking rules are like after 8pm at outdoor seating in philly? i'd side eye you if i was at the bar with my kid and the peson next to me lit up, but i would side eye myself for being at the bar with a kid at 8pm.

no really.

my FIL does this to people aka talks about them when they are the table next to you. i told my husband i hope he get popped in the face one day because it is rude as hell.  

rumdrinx

as a here n there smoker, I would not smoke outside if my neighbors were eating.  Nor would I smoke if they raised a vocal stink, even if passive.  Smoking is gross, no matter the right. I get it.   If the smoke doesn't kill me , it certainly won't kill me to get up and walk a number of feet to smoke away from them. 

amy052006

I'm in the "smoking next to anyone eating is gross" camp. 

larrysdarling

I will say that if walked onto a patio that was marked 'smoking section' and I was the only non-smoker there, I wouldn't have the reasonable expectation that I was going to get a smoke free meal.

However, if was an outdoor eating section where a large majority of the people weren't smoking and someone sat next to me and started to smoke, I'd be pisssed. 

HeatherWain

amy052006:

I'm in the "smoking next to anyone eating is gross" camp. 

I completely agree with this (as well as what LD and Rum said) and it's rude, IMO. 

rumdrinx

I wouldn't say that it is rude ...but maybe inconsiderate is the word.  There is no smoking section any more, so outside is for " everybody".  You gotta share the air and yeah, what I still come back with is that smoking makes grody air.

Edited to add:  smoking outdoors at a drinking only establishment is a free for all.

laptopprancer

Well, I do appreciate everyone's different views on the subject.  It's one of the only seats in town where I can eat, drink smoke and watch the Phillies on the TV above the bar all at the same time, lol.

The perspective that I handled it badly before she did is interesting, that is all.

larrysdarling

rumdrinx:

I wouldn't say that it is rude ...but maybe inconsiderate is the word.  There is no smoking section any more, so outside is for " everybody".  You gotta share the air and yeah, what I still come back with is that smoking makes grody air.

Edited to add:  smoking outdoors at a drinking only establishment is a free for all.

ITA.

Shannon1110

As an ex-smoker who now hates the smell of smoke, I can appreciate not wanting to eat next to someone smoking.  They did handle it bad though.  If I were you I probably would've said, oh did you want me to put this out?  I couldn't hear the game over your constant bitching.

eSynergy

I can't wait to read this girl's Yelp review of the place....LOL