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This makes me so sad--voters & race in the South

Someone posted it on E08. It just gets under my skin that people still think this way. And it does nothing to change the negative way people already view Alabamiana (or southerners in general).

 

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Southern Voters and Race

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MOBILE, Ala. ? The McCain campaign?s depiction of Barack Obama as a mysterious ?other? with an impenetrable background may not be resonating in the national polls, but it has found a receptive audience with many white Southern voters.

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James Edward Bates for The New York Times

?He?s neither-nor. He?s other. It?s in the Bible. Come as one. Don?t create other breeds.? RICKY THOMPSON, in Mobile, Ala., speaking about Barack Obama


In interviews here in the Deep South and in Virginia, white voters made it clear that they remain deeply uneasy with Mr. Obama ? with his politics, his personality and his biracial background. Being the son of a white mother and a black father has come to symbolize Mr. Obama?s larger mysteries for many voters. When asked about his background, a substantial number of people interviewed said they believed his racial heritage was unclear, giving them another reason to vote against him.

?He?s neither-nor,? said Ricky Thompson, a pipe fitter who works at a factory north of Mobile, while standing in the parking lot of a Wal-Mart store just north of here. ?He?s other. It?s in the Bible. Come as one. Don?t create other breeds.?

Whether Mr. Obama is black, half-black or half-white often seemed to overshadow the question of his exact stand on particular issues, and rough-edged comments on the subject flowed easily even from voters who said race should not be an issue in the campaign. Many voters seemed to have no difficulty criticizing the mixing of the races ? and thus the product of such mixtures ? even as they indignantly said a candidate?s color held no importance for them.

?I would think of him as I would of another of mixed race,? said Glenn Reynolds, 74, a retired textile worker in Martinsdale, Va., and a former supervisor at a Goodyear plant. ?God taught the children of Israel not to intermarry. You should be proud of what you are, and not intermarry.?

Mr. Reynolds, standing outside a Kroger grocery store, described Mr. Obama as a ?real charismatic person, in that he?s the type of person you can?t really hate, but you don?t really trust.?

Other voters swept past such ambiguities into old-fashioned racist gibes.

?He?s going to tear up the rose bushes and plant a watermelon patch,? said James Halsey, chuckling, while standing in the Wal-Mart parking lot with fellow workers in the environmental cleanup business. ?I just don?t think we?ll ever have a black president.?

There is nothing unusual about mixed-race people in the South, although in decades past there was no ambiguity about the subject. Legally and socially, a person with any black blood was considered black when segregation was the law.

But the historic candidacy of Mr. Obama, who has said he considers himself black, has led some voters in the South to categorize him as neither black nor white. While many voters said that made them uncomfortable, others said they were pleased by Mr. Obama?s lack of connection to African-American politics.

?He doesn?t come from the African-American perspective ? he?s not of that tradition,? said Kimi Oaks, a prominent community volunteer in the Mobile area, with apparent approval. Ms. Oaks, along with about 15 others, had gathered after Sunday services at Mobile?s leading Methodist church to discuss the presidential campaign. ?He?s not a product of any ghetto,? Ms. Oaks added.

At the same time, however, she vigorously rejected the idea that race would be important in the election, a question met with general head-shaking from those assembled; Ms. Oaks said she was ?terribly offended,? as a Southerner, at even being asked about this.

Jim Pagans, a retired software manager, interviewed in a strip mall parking lot in Roanoke, Va., said that while Mr. Obama was ?half-Caucasian,? he had the characteristics of blacks.

?But you look at his background, you don?t think of that,? he said. ?He?s more intelligent and a smarter person than McCain.?

Bud Rowell, a retired oil field worker interviewed at a Baptist church in Citronelle, Ala., north of Mobile, said he was uncertain about Mr. Obama?s racial identity, and was critical of him for being equivocal and indecisive.

But Mr. Rowell also said that personal experience had made him more sympathetic to biracial people.

?I?ve always been against the blacks,? said Mr. Rowell, who is in his 70s, recalling how he was arrested for throwing firecrackers in the black section of town. But now that he has three biracial grandchildren ? ?it was really rough on me? ? he said he had ?found out they were human beings, too.?

 

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Re: This makes me so sad--voters & race in the South

  • that is very sad. i don't see what mixed race has to do with anything and never have.

    I guess these people would hate my family..lol. my mom's side is mexican/native american and i have black/mexican cousins..on my dad's side we have white/asian family members, greek uncle...there's no telling who i'm forgetting..lol

    for the guy who was talking about not intermarrying...he probably married his 1st cousin or something

  • :'( this whole election has made me so sad...i can't wait until it's over.
  • I can't even read through the whole thing b/c some people's ignorance just burns me up.......... ugh.
  • I think too many people pull the race card in this election. I hate that we are still hung up on black and white. We should elect the best man for the job not by the color of his or her skin. It just makes me mad that we can't get through this with out someone not voting for someone because they are black. I'm not saying if he is or isn't the best man for the job but we need to be well informed of both parties and what they want to do before we choose. Ok enough rambling. Sorry girls.
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  • imagetippykins:
    :'( this whole election has made me so sad...i can't wait until it's over.

     

     

    omg...it is stressing me out so bad right now too... i was just thinking that!

  • Uggghhhh....this is exactly what terrifies me for my son. For the guy that quoted scripture I just want to yell at him 'Red, yellow, black, and white they are precious in his site!'. It doesnt matter what color you are (or if you are a couple of colors ;)) God is a loving God not one filled with hate. He gets a bad wrap because of ignorant people like the man that was quoted. I wont preach this morning, but this is a topic that is very close to me and breaks my heart!!

  • Like the others said I am so ready for this election to be over because I am sick of some of the things I am hearing from people! Ignorance really bugs me! This is something I am very passionate about also because I remember my mom growing up (she is a half Japanese) getting made fun of because of what she looked like and the color of her skin.
  • I couldn't read the whole thing because I was actually getting angry. Some people are real idiots.
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  • I bet that "Christian" man couldn't even tell you where in the Bible that was.  Plus, that is way out of context and I'm pretty sure was talking about marrying of different faiths not skin color.

    Wouldn't it be great if someone did a national story on those of us who aren't idiot racists in the south?

  • imageDH&LS06:
    I couldn't read the whole thing because I was actually getting angry. Some people are real idiots.

    Ditto

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  • imageamy0887:

    I bet that "Christian" man couldn't even tell you where in the Bible that was.  Plus, that is way out of context and I'm pretty sure was talking about marrying of different faiths not skin color.

    Wouldn't it be great if someone did a national story on those of us who aren't idiot racists in the south?

    I couldn't agree more.

    Siggy coming soon....
  • this whole election is stressing me out.... like, what in the hell is wrong with everyone....

    it isn't about race, or age, or sex, or religion....

    it is about america...it is about issues facing america....it is about how you feel about the issues facing america, and making a choice based on what the people who are standing before us stand for....

    i am still trying to find good, unbiased, information on these candidates so i can at least feel like i am making a good decision...and it is totally stressing me out.... LOL

  • imageRachelJohnson:

    Uggghhhh....this is exactly what terrifies me for my son. For the guy that quoted scripture I just want to yell at him 'Red, yellow, black, and white they are precious in his site!'. It doesnt matter what color you are (or if you are a couple of colors ;)) God is a loving God not one filled with hate. He gets a bad wrap because of ignorant people like the man that was quoted. I wont preach this morning, but this is a topic that is very close to me and breaks my heart!!

     

    Couldn't have said it better myself!!!!

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  • From a research perspective, it's totally freaking fascinating and I love it.

    From a humanity perspective, it makes me completely sick.

    I fully think there should be a test you have to pass in order to be able to vote.  Sure, voting is a right, and I get that, but there's too much at stake to let ignorant voters into the polls. 

  • People are pathetic.  That article in just infuriating.  Unfortunately, I don't think these attitudes solely exist in the south - I think many people will vote in this election based on race - regardless if that person actually represents what is important for them.  It is really sad.  I hate that it has practically taken control of this year's election - at least for some people....  I just don't get it.  And yes, those people sound like complete morons....
  • imageamy0887:

    I bet that "Christian" man couldn't even tell you where in the Bible that was.  Plus, that is way out of context and I'm pretty sure was talking about marrying of different faiths not skin color.

    Wouldn't it be great if someone did a national story on those of us who aren't idiot racists in the south?

    My thoughts exactly.  I too will be glad when this election is over with!

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