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Can any of my nesties read chinese?
I am looking for the symbols for "Selfless Service" or "Strength" but I DO NOT trust the internet.
This is what I found for Strength
and this for Selfless Service
Re: Can any of my nesties read chinese?
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What's this for? Hopefully not a tattoo.
I only know a bit of kanji from living in Japan, but the first kanji you have there ? means power, or force, or will, or ability--depending on how it's used in context--and has a huge number of other meanings. But they all sort of stem from the same idea of "power". The second kanji I'm not sure of at all. sorry.
In the second word, first character, I'm not sure of. but if it's supposed to mean what you think it does, it would need to be something that negates the following character ? which means like... "self" or something "persona", making it "selfless" "non-self" etc. again, depending on how the character is used in context, it could end up meaning a lot of different things. the last character ? means "serve", but can be honour or revere and words like that too--again, it's all in context.
Thank you. What the hell does it matter what it is for? She didn't ask you to give your opinion on what she was doing, she asked what the symbol is. If you don't know a simple "I don't know" would have been sufficient. I am sure that she appreciates that you did have an idea but your other input wasn't exactly necessary.
awww how nice to meet you......i wonder who the hell you are....grow a set and if you're gonna insult these girls at least let them know who you are......way to be immature and hide behind an AE......coward...... at least these girls use their "real" screen names to voice their opinion......this is stupid.
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Maybe....but there were a lot of issues with AE's and girls who were here in the past....so its kind of a sore subject with some of the older girls when we get dive bombed by AE's that are accusatory and just plain nasty.....its stupid and childish.....goes back to owning your words and putting big girl panties on with your opinions....you owned your opinion and posted as yourself...which is fine you're entitled to it...that other poster is just childish.
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I hope you find what you're looking for
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Please go back to your bomb shelter. Life has been a lot happier without you around.
Mine means family... above my heart... and I love it. And actually get a lot of complements on it... even from those who know what it means. I did research before I got it and made sure it meant what it was supposed to.
Eeva, FWIW, I know it's the internet, but that was hurtful.
Anabeth, I'm not trying to be hurtful, I just don't agree with it. I'm sure you like your tattoo very much, and you really shouldn't care what I think of it. I'm very careful not to bother people on these boards about petty things I don't agree with just to be an a$$. I do express myself about things I have a strong opinion about. I didn't come on here and say "OMG you complete idiot! Why would you get a tattoo of kanji roflmao!" I said, "I hope that's not for a tattoo". And was basically told my comment was not welcome, and not even by the OP. Yes my comment is welcome. It is called for. And it's there. This is a public forum. And you should all know me well enough to know I'm not here to hurt people's feelings.
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So I think that since Danielle hasn't responded its safe to say we are still in the assumption stage things. She hasn't mentioned a tattoo and we are all getting a little ahead of ourselves when it comes to the argument, not that there should even be one. A tattoo is a very personal thing, so to each their own.
Nukke- I am curious though do you feel the same about getting tattoos in all different languages or just asian characters? And I am not trying to start a fight I am interested.
I've honestly never seen it in any other situation. It just makes sense that it would be disrespectful in other languages too. I was incredibly offended when I lived in Japan at how the Japanese bastardized English. They didn't give a sh!t how they spelled things or what they said, because they looked at English as a novelty more than a language. A friend of mine has some Spanish written on her wrist, and although Spanish isn't her native tongue, she studied it for nearly 10 years and lived in Spain for a while. The phrase is some sentimental saying she shared with her Spanish friends.
Whoa. Didn't mean to start drama. Sorry ladies.
It actually is for a tattoo and although the opinion was unsolicited, I am not offended by it. I wouldn't get a tattoo for the benefit of other people and my reasons are my own. Nor do I feel it necessary to explain my decisions to other people. I see tattoos in Italian all the time. It really doesn't offend me. What do I care what someone else has on their body? It doesn't directly effect me.
Thanks for the help though!
Dear troll: please stop trolling. If you don't have the balls to say something with your real sn, then you aren't really worth our time. I think we should make it a policy to completely ignore the trolls. If they don't get a reaction, do you think they will still post?
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Ana, just for the record, I love your tattoo because it's part of you, and everyone knows I think you rock. Don't let anyone else's words get to you.
I think it's important to realise that--while you might not be offended by the Italian written on someone elses body--it's very likely that you could be offending someone else and their heritage by tattooing your body with kanji. Those individual characters have so many different meanings and pronounciations. That kanji you're writing on there could easily be someone's family name. That's exactly what happened to an English teacher from South Africa who had some junk written on her thigh. One of the Japanese parents noticed it and was beyond offended. The calligraphy teacher at one of my junior high schools was disgusted by the idea of people--specifically westerners--disgracing kanji (as an art form) on their bodies. You might not care that you could be offending a culture by writing it on your body, but I think it's important that you be aware that you might. Make your decision as you like, do as you like, but be informed.
So I'm of Irish descent and my maiden last name is Wolfe...does that mean, by your statement, I have reason to become outraged and offended at every piece of Celtic scrollwork, claddaugh ring or shamrock that happens to grace the anatomy of someone from, say, Mexico, who never spent time in Ireland or even read a book about Irish history, or have a coronary every time I see a tattoo of a wolf howling at the moon? For that matter, maybe I should go a vent about how many people have the audacity to wear plaid when they don't know how important tartans are to my heritage. Those patterns have meaning to my culture, you know. You can't just go combining colors willy-nilly and expect me to stand for it in the name of your fashion sense! It's an affront to my dignity, I tell you, and I won't have it!
Sorry, but I just can't bring myself to get that worked up over an unintended slight. I think there are some cases where people could stand to be just a bit less sensitive.
DH's best friend is Chinese so I will send these symbols to him to find out for you. Hopefully he responds in a timely matter.
I'm a little late to the game here, but FWIW, I also have a Chinese symbol on my foot that means "big sister", and I have Chinese friends who love it and are not slighted by it in the least.
That being said, it's part of my body and if people don't like it, they can just not look,
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TTC Since January 2011 - We have bad spermYou are completely missing the point. I'm giving you my experience that I've witnessed first hand from Japanese people and how they feel about their Kanji written on westerners. Tattoos are highly frowned upon in modern-day Japan, and it's particularly disrespectful to see a tattoo with kanji. Half the Japanese people who saw kanji written on westerners thought the westerners were completely idiotic, and the other half found it disrespectful. The OP isn't getting a celtic symbol, and I've never heard of anyone getting uppidy about celtic symbols on other peoples bodies who weren't of irish/scotish descent. If you want to get all offended by plaid, go for it. One of those symbols OP is considering writing is commonly used when referring to the emperor of Japan, and--while I don't know kanji that well--I can see how that could be super offensive. You should probably write to the people of Japan and tell them to get over themselves and not take their culture so seriously.
If you can't see the parallel I just drew there, and you honestly think I get my knickers in a twist over people wearing plaid, it's not I who is completely missing the point.
Celtic symbols were often used to represent religious figures in Irish/Scottish culture, and tartans are passed down from generation to generation as the mark of a family's heritage, so it's entirely possible that someone could be unwittingly wearing something offensive to a person who knows a bit about their symbology...just so you know, religious leaders and family identity, to many Irish people, are every bit as important, and I daresay even more so for some, as the emperor of Japan is to Japanese people, and yet one form is commonly accepted...even by someone as cosmopolitan and well-traveled as yourself...over another. One culture doesn't get to pick and choose their offenses as more important than those of another culture.
Personally, I don't think it's up to me to tell someone else what they should or shouldn't use to adorn their bodies, in a permanent fashion or otherwise. I don't think it's up to anyone except the person choosing said adornment. Obviously, the person choosing to use Kanji symbols, celtic symbols, or any other type of symbol, saw something about that work which they honor and hold in esteem, or else they wouldn't have chosen to permanently attach it to their anatomy. There's no need to get all emotional and up in arms over it. I'm simply stating facts.
While we're on the subject, I've been trying to find an inoffensive way to say this for a while, and I'm reasonably certain I'm not the only one who feels this way, but a conversation about unintentional slights is probably as good a time as any...I know you probably don't realize this, but you often come across as incredibly condescending and insulting to the culture of the majority of women on this board. Many times, you've talked of things that we hold dear as crass or boorish, and frankly, it's pretty offensive. We get that you've gotten some wonderful opportunities to travel and experience other cultures, and I, for one, love hearing your stories and value a great deal of what you bring to conversations, but sometimes, your statements when we do the same become more than a little off-putting. Not everyone has been blessed with the opportunities you have had. Perhaps you might want to consider their feelings as well, just as you consider the feelings of those people whose cultures you've had the chance to share?
Please don't take this as a personal attack...I mean it with all my heart when I say you are one of my favorite people on the board, otherwise I wouldn't say this. I'd just roll my eyes and ignore your posts. I just feel like this has been the elephant in this virtual room for a good long while, and I hate to see someone come across in a way they may not have intended.
Ah fvuck it! I'll just get the Twilight tattoo.
I kid I kid.