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wdyt Personal Time should be used for?
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my company gives us sick, vacation and 2 separate personal days. i'm getting into a little bit of a tiff with one of my direct reports b/c i called her out on using her personal hours to cushion her bad habit of just coming in late.
am i in the wrong?
what do you think PTO is there for? i think its for a lot of different 'personal' things, but spreading it out to compensate coming in late everyday for two weeks is not one of them.
Re: wdyt Personal Time should be used for?
You can do whatever the heck you want to do with your personal time. Hence, the name "personal time".
At my job, personal days are intended to be used for appointments and to allow you do to things that can only be done during work hours. Our personal day policy says it is "not to be used to supplement vacation", and honestly coming in late and using this PTO for that seems like she's just getting mini-vacations every morning. I do not think using it the way you described would go over well at my company.
However, it depends what your company's policy for these days is.
I don't think personal days should be used for coming in late (unless you had a doctor appointment, car trouble, sick kid, etc). If your co-worker is just using her personal "days" as personal "hours," here and there, without a specific reason, I think that is wrong.
However, I suppose it does depend on your specific company policy.
To clarify - she's just using her personal days for this, or is she also using her vacation days to pad it too?
On one hand, I agree with you. That really isn't the point of giving us days off. But at the same time, if this is really how she wants to use her time... eh, let her.
BUT 2 caveats:
1- if her being late actually is causing problems (missing meetings, etc), then you should have every right to decline her request to use that time. If it's actually affecting her ability to do her job, then that issue needs to be addressed.
2- what happens when she uses up all her time? Is she goign to magically start coming in on time? Doubtful. Let her burn through it then when she comes in late w/o any "protection", write her up for it (or whatever you do - keep traack of it and mark her down on her next review. If her review affects her raise, she might start thinking twice....)l.
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Your not in the wrong if she's not scheduling these ahead of time. If she wants to sleep in or have a longer breakfast or run errands before work and is fine with burning through her allotted time, risking medical/cold & flu season needs, I say it's fine as long as everyone has a heads up that she will not be there in advance. If she's using it post-running late, then no - she's late and she's not using personal time. She's burning business hours.
In my old job people started using our PT allocations like that and it ended up burning everyone. It went from being allowed to use PT in 15 minute increments to 30 minute to 1 hour increments, which meant if you only needed 15 minutes you lost an entire hour. It wasn't fair to those who understood what PT should be used for.
If someone wants to just take a day to run errands, stay in bed, go to a museum, they can and should use a personal day.
Using a couple hours here and there would be okay if it was every so often for a doctor or dentist appointment, or leaving early on a Friday, etc.
However, using an hour or two a day for days and days in a row would never have been approved at my old company. It would not have been looked upon kindly.
To me, it depends less on why you're using it and more on if the policy says it needs to be preapproved, and if there are minimum requirements on how many hours you can take at once.
Personal is personal. We request a 2 week notice, but sometimes you can't help that. To be clear though, our company only offers PTO, no "vacation" no "sick leave", only paid personal time off.
I try to let everyone know as soon as possible when I will be out, we also have a document on the share drive to track time off.
Personal is personal. If there's a related performance issue, deal with your direct report appropriately. If she's just coming in late but getting the job done, and still taking personal time, then I would let it lie-she could do the alternative "well I'm super-efficient and I don't need to be here that long so I'm not even going to use my personal time, I'm just going to leave." Either there's a performance problem or there's not, and if there is one, that's your bigger issue.