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Buyers or sellers -- Early occupancy?

Has anyone (either as a buyer or a seller) ever dealt with an early occupancy situation??

Our home has been for sale and is currently vacant, and as of yesterday is now under contract. The estimated closing date is August 16th, but I just spoke with our agent, and the buyers are wanting to move into the house under an early occupancy clause.

This is something that we know *nothing* about, and our agent admitted that she hasn't dealt with it many times in the past. She said that she'd put together a packet of required info that the buyer must supply to us, including all of their available funds info, pre-qual letter, etc. The inspection is scheduled for tomorrow, so that will be out of the way before they move in.

She said that it really is a gamble, becasue if something were to go wrong between their occupancy and the closing date (i.e. A/C go out, roof leak, etc), we'd be responsible.

Also, how did you go about calculating the daily rate for occupancy? Based on OUR mortgage or theirs? Ours is significantly higher, as we purchased the home for $20K more than we sold it for, and we also had a 1% higher interest rate.

Thanks for any tips or advice!

 

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Re: Buyers or sellers -- Early occupancy?

  • maple2maple2 member
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    We are renting the house from the sellers for approximately 3 months before closing, so that's a bit different than your situation and may be more like renting than just early occupancy.  In our case, we included the rental time and cost in our purchase offer, and we suggested the going rate for rentals in the area.  Our initial monthly rent offer increased as part of the purchase negotiations, but it is still in line with rentals in the area though now at the upper end.  The sellers said that was what they needed to meet their costs, but I'm not sure if that meant their mortgage payment on the house we are buying or the new one they already closed on.  I would think it would be reasonable for you to ask them to pay the daily rate based on your mortgage since you are the current owners, but it could be something you negotiate with them if you want.  Or you could just tell them what you'll accept and they can take it or wait to move in until closing.

    Lots of people on this board will likely tell you not to do this because it does represent a liability to you as the seller.  As you already know, you will be responsible for any repairs while they are in the house, and there is always the possibility they will do something awful to the house then not end up buying it, which puts you in the unfortunate position of having to pay to clean up after them and not having a buyer.  The risk may be worth it to you, however, if you need the money and/or have a good level of trust built up with the buyers.  In our case, I think it was a bit of both for the sellers.  So far, it is working out well for all parties.

  • I moved into my house a couple of months before I bought it, but it was also 10 years ago. I don't remember the details, but I was definitely thankful the seller was willing to do that for me. Can you get references from past rentals, credit check, etc? I'm sure your agent will be a good resource for you, they should be able to see that your interests are protected as much as possible.
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  • We occupied our house 3 days prior to close. The seller was living in another state and was reassured by the REA about the unlikeliness of any delays in closing. Our financing was cleared about a week before closing. We signed an addendum to the contract specifying the terms. Seller maintained ultimate responsibility for the house (utilities, insurance, liability, etc.) and we basically rented for three days. The rate was based on seller's monthly costs.

    Honestly, it is a big risk as a seller. I wouldn't have allowed it if I were the seller, but was extremely grateful that we were able to do this as buyers. It really helped us out. And we closed right on time with no snafus :)

  • We're doing this currently as buyers.  We actually signed a lease with the seller along with the additional paperwork required for closing.  We set an amount based on the monthly mortgage we would pay, and we actually pay it as a daily rate (as we won't live there a full month).  Luckily, we paid only the amount of 2 weeks in June, and we'll pay for the remaining days it takes before closing at closing.  To be honest, this was a benefit to both us and the seller - he's moving out of state and so would be paying for both places, with this at least some of the amount is taken off.  Also, the seller is at fault for the delay in closing, so I think it was why he was more willing to work with us.  We did add 2 addendums to the list (in addition to the monthly rate): allowing our dachshund, and allowing us to paint when we moved in.  HTH and good luck!
  • As a seller, I wouldn't do it. It's just too risky and your insurance company may not even allow it.
  • Thanks for all of your input, ladies.

    Things are still up in the air at this point. We've decided that if we do allow this, we're going to require that the buyers sign a one year lease agreement -- that way, if the contract falls through, they will be required to either pay out the rest of the lease OR remain as tenants, paying a monthly rent. We were days away from putting the home up for rent anyway, so we're hopeful that this approach will work. Additionally, the lease terms would become void at closing, and we would refund the required deposit at that time.

    We've gone back and forth on this, and the biggest thing that is leading us towards going ahead with the early occupancy is the fact that both DH and the buyer are military. In the event that he were to default on his per diem payment or otherwise harm the house, we have a quick, easy, and very effective route of recourse -- we simply contact his chain of command. It's amazing how quickly things can get done when an Airman's boss gets involved.

    Thanks again for all your input!

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  • The decision has been made for us -- the buyers have found alternative housing until closing date. They weren't thrilled with the lease option or the amount of money that we wanted to charge them, so they found something else. That's fine with us -- we're pretty sure that they thought they'd just get to move in, pay a small fee, and all would be fine and dandy. I doubt they understood what a huge risk it was for us.

    Thanks again for the advice! I'm glad we don't have to find out what kind of risk it could turn out to be. :)

     

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  • We are currently buying a house and are hoping to gain access prior to closing because we have a deadline to move a house full of furniture we bought and it is only 24 hours after we close on our house.  I have read a substantial amount of negative comments based on the fear of "something bad happening", but I have yet to come across any actual valid events. We we are planning to have a contract addendum with express language that satisfies the seller as well as us, the buyers. I have to comment though that I do not believe that a buyer will go through the stress and trouble of obtaining a mortgage and homeowner's insurance, paying these plus taxes up front for four months, packing and moving their belongings, paying earnest money, appraisal fees, and down payments, etc. only to be irresponsible and trash the house or refuse to move out in the unfortunate event that the loan does not go through. I have faith that people in this country have high expectations of themselves. I also believe that they have the intentions AND the ability to to meet them. Here's to a positive outlook in my home-buying experience!
  • We are currently buying a house and are hoping to gain access prior to closing because we have a deadline to move a house full of furniture we bought and it is only 24 hours after we close on our house.  I have read a substantial amount of negative comments based on the fear of "something bad happening", but I have yet to come across any actual valid events. We we are planning to have a contract addendum with express language that satisfies the seller as well as us, the buyers. I have to comment though that I do not believe that a buyer will go through the stress and trouble of obtaining a mortgage and homeowner's insurance, paying these plus taxes up front for four months, packing and moving their belongings, paying earnest money, appraisal fees, and down payments, etc. only to be irresponsible and trash the house or refuse to move out in the unfortunate event that the loan does not go through. I have faith that people in this country have high expectations of themselves. I also believe that they have the intentions AND the ability to to meet them. Here's to a positive outlook in my home-buying experience!

    It's often more than trashing the house or refusing to move out if the loan doesn't go through.  That said, this post is almost FOUR years old.  The people in this thread are long gone.  If you feel like chatting about a topic, feel free to start a new post.
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