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*Spoilers below* If a documentary can have spoilers...
The last 45 minutes or so had me in tears. When they showed pictures of that woman's daughter after she hanged herself? The pictures of the other teens who had been totured and killed because they were gay? Then the positive stories of the parents supporting their kids after educating themselves and changing their views?
OMFG. So good.
Possibly my favorite line from the whole movie "It's okay to have a 5th grade understanding of God... if you're in the 5th grade."
I also like that they weren't saying fundamentalist Christians are evil for having the views that they do about homosexuality, rather that they are using a literal interpretation of the Bible. I can understand where, when taken literally, it would seem that the Bible says that homosexuality is wrong. What I have always taken issue with is the lack of conversation regarding the cultural and historical influences on the Bible as it was written... since it was written by men and not God himself.
The movie makes some great points and I feel that more people should see it and let themselves be open to a discussion on this subject.
Next on my list of documentaries: Hot Coffee. It isn't available on netflix yet, but it is on HBO. It's about the McDonalds lawsuit and how it (along with other similar lawsuits) have shaped current tort reform.
Re: Ehoss - FTBTMS discussion in here!
I agree on all counts.
Those pictures were hard to watch. In fact, I think I turned my head for most of them.
I was just completely overwhelmed by the positive nature of the film. No where was it accusatory or degrading to the opposite viewpoint. It was so full of intelligence and, well, frankly, common sense that even though I already was on board the gay marriage train, I am even more now.
There were two things that really stood out to me from it. The most moving part of the movie was the rally at the Focus on the Family headquarters. The whole notion that FotF encouraged families to reject their homosexual family members is ridiculously ironic, and when the mom got up in front of the crowd and said that "My name is XXXX, my son is gay, and I AM focusing on MY family!", I wanted to stand up and cheer. And when they all got taken away in handcuffs because they wanted to respectfully present the president of FotF with a letter, I was bawling my eyes out. So ridiculous.
I was also very affected by the notion that the accounts of Jesus Christ in the gospels never mention him speaking about being a homosexual at all. I had learned that earlier, but this movie really made me examine what that meant. The notion that people want to follow the Old Testament in some ways, but disregard it and claim cultural divergence for other things doesn't make any sense. Either it all applies, or it all doesn't! I believe that it ALL has to be taken with careful consideration to the time frame in which the stories were told and written. However, I believe that what Jesus himself taught, love, acceptance, forgiveness, charity, selflessness, THAT is never ending and never changing. If people could focus more on the fruits of the spirit, and less on being legalistic and judgemental, so many of these issues would disappear. Jesus wasn't harsh with outsiders or people in need, he was harsh with the Pharisees and those others who kept the Law to the detriment of their own souls.
And that also provoked me to start reading my Bible, going over the four gospels again to really delve into how to be a good human being, which is what I firmly believe Jesus was teaching. I'm sure those ultraconservative, DOMA people would love to know that a movie about gays pushed me back into studying the Bible.
I also want to learn more about the program that the woman (whose daughter committed suicide) started about stopping scriptural abuse or whatever she called it. That seemed fascinating.
Sorry, I got off on a tangent, but this movie just moved me to my core. I have this incredible urge to become a gay rights activist now, and I have no idea how to do it.
One of the heavy hitting points for me was that bit about not being selective about what scriptures to embrace and which ones to ignore as well. Specifically the part about how many of the people who claim that homosexuality is an abomination are wealthy, white, heterosexual men. Clearly they were speaking from a POV of great privilage.
I also was really intrigued by the organization trying to prevent scripture abuse. I believe it was called Soul Force. Any group based on people coming together to promote acceptance and love of others gets a gold star from me.
Too many people get wrapped up in the words printed in the Bible and completely disregard the philosophy that Jesus taught and lived by. Like they said in the film, he hung out with the outsiders and cast offs of society offering them acceptance and friendship.
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I highly highly recommend it. It's eye opening, for sure.
I watched it because of Liz's reccomendation and I was not disappointed. It's a great documentary that takes a non-combative, logical stance in the gay rights debate... the result is something I think everyone should watch regardless of their personal views.
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