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Re: More no-kids stuff
Wow. Our WF even has a breastfeeding area so that is kind of weird.
I find the "brat free" kind of funny, however, kids =/= brat. My kid isn't a brat. Nor will he be allowed to act like one in public.
This was totally a Simpsons episode.
On the one hand, I think it's yet another way to let parents off the hook for being responsible for their kids. My parents took us places when we were little, and we knew how to behave. And if we didn't behave, my parents reprimanded us and took us out of there. But everyone is so afraid of a lawsuit or not being polite or whatever, that owners/managers aren't willing to even ask someone to remove a child if they're misbehaving and disturbing the other patrons. Too many parents are willing to let their kids misbehave because they're a speshul snoflak or whatever. I've seen it with my friends and their kids, and I find it maddening.
I am not a kid-hater. I don't particularly want children, or want to be around them all the time, but I think there's a world of difference between a tired, strung-out parent who is clearly trying their best, and the ones who let their kids do whatever the heck they want all the time. so yeah, I'd happily pay a surcharge for a kid-free movie, or stick to adults-only times at restaurants.
Though frankly, I'd prefer it if they banned old people from the grocery store during certain hours - they annoy me there way more than the kids do.
DS is only 8 mo old but I have always been very mindful of where we take him. I don't take him anywhere now where he may disturb someone with his babbling or banging a hand on the table. I figure if we take him to a nicer restaurant he may be disturbing a couple who paid good money for a babysitter to get away from their kids. So our dinners out are the local pizza parlor, Moe's, mexican, or the order-at-the-counter BBQ joint.
Thank you. How do you do this????
I have to admit that I didn't read the link, but...
I'm ok with some places being adult-only. The grocery store? No.
But I also do not believe that this "movement" is spreading enough for it to be something to be concerned about.
Thanks!
I love kids... I teach K-5, so I'm around children all day (well... during the school year...) Yesterday I was in Barnes and Noble and two children, no I'm going to say brats, were running through the very crowded store, yelling at each other and begging mommy to buy them everything under the sun. Mommy "reasoned" with the two 4-5 year olds, but that had very little effect. A few months ago SO and I went to a new family friendly restaurant in Back Bay. The seating had a shared banquet and then chairs for the other side of the tables. A young family was seated next to us. Mom and Dad had their attention glued to their i-phones taking pictures of the menu, the appetizers, the decor, their "cute kids" and anything else that was shiny and distracted them. Their children, who were bored and being ignored, were climbing all over the back of the banquet, kick and being really loud.
In both cases, I was so frustrated by the parents. I know I'm not a parent, I get that I don't know, first hand, how difficult it must be to be a parent, but in situations like this, these adults were not "being parents" either. I work with children all day. In 14 years of teaching, I have rarely needed to raise my voice, and even with 22 six year olds, I still manage to keep them all in "control."
What I to often see, are parents that want to be their kids bff... and I'm sorry, but that's not your job as a parent. Sometimes your child will not like you. Sometimes your child will be angry at you. But children need expectations and rules. Children also need to be included in your lives. I can't imagine what a different dinning experience we would have had if the parents at that Back Bay restaurant had each taken a child on a side of the table... and had the kids look for things to take pictures of. Or even play a simple game of "I spy" (6 year olds love I spy!)
Having read the article, I actually love what Whole Foods is offering. Give mommy and/or daddy an opportunity to go into the crowded grocery store and shop with out the distraction of little one possibly wreaking havoc. I have no problem with airlines banning kids from first class, and there are certain restaurants that just don't seem child appropriate. But ultimately we need to just banned poor parenting, not the innocent little munchins that are being broken by their distracted, well meaning but permissive parents.
Ok... I'll step down from my soap box now... : )
Although, I must say, if we fly with DS we will fly first class. We want the extra space, and it's cheaper that getting a 3rd ticket for him to have a seat.