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Camera Question

My office is looking to purchase 7 cameras. They have to take pictures in RAW format. I don't know much about that at all. Will any camera take them? Suggestions?  We need 7 cameras and the total of all 7 cameras has to be under $3000.
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Re: Camera Question

  • I know you can get 7 basic DSLR camera BODIES for under $3,000, but not cameras + kit lenses new.

    We get all our gear from BHPhoto, which is usually cheaper than amazon, and ALWAYS cheaper than a storefront. The lowest price you're looking at there for a digital rebel with a kit lens is about $500. 

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  • Are just simple point and shoot cameras not the RAW format?  They don't have to be anything fancy. Just cameras for documentation of contract work that the guys are doing quality assurance on.
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  • imageMrsLynch0516:
    Are just simple point and shoot cameras not the RAW format?  They don't have to be anything fancy. Just cameras for documentation of contract work that the guys are doing quality assurance on.

    this question might not be something you can answer... but if all you're doing is QA, why do you need RAW? It's a HUGE file format, mostly useful for correction in post-processing because you have much more color information.

    I don't know of any point and shoot camera that has RAW capability. You might find that on an upper middle-utility camera like a powershot, but I'm not sure. In my opinion, I can't see that what you guys are going to be using them for makes RAW even desirable. Unless you're using the camera in manual and really know what you're doing, .jpg is going to give you more color and contrast than RAW will. A camera shooting RAW files, set to auto, is not preferable. 

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  • I know the Canon Powershot G12 shoots RAW but it's nearly $500. You are going to be hard-pressed to find something in your price range that will shoot RAW files.

    Chelsea is your #1 best source on this one so that's all I've got to add.

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  • Thanks girls. I was thinking Chelsea would chime in :). I was just told That is what they want. They said they need something that can't be edited because a file that can be edited won't stand up in court. Which I think is a bunch of bs. It would be a Printed photo anywys how would any one know?? Thanks ladies
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  • imageMrsLynch0516:
    Thanks girls. I was thinking Chelsea would chime in :). I was just told That is what they want. They said they need something that can't be edited because a file that can be edited won't stand up in court. Which I think is a bunch of bs. It would be a Printed photo anywys how would any one know?? Thanks ladies

    To say that RAW files can't be edited is just plain incorrect. I edit RAW files every day. The files are used because they give MORE information to edit! That's the whole point. They're just wrong.

    Please encourage someone to do research as to what RAW files are, because right now, they're looking at spending tons of money unnecessarily for something that isn't going to suit their purposes. The fact of the matter is that ANY picture can be edited. Anything. You can't protect against that. 

    Best of luck.

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    imageMrsLynch0516:
    Thanks girls. I was thinking Chelsea would chime in :). I was just told That is what they want. They said they need something that can't be edited because a file that can be edited won't stand up in court. Which I think is a bunch of bs. It would be a Printed photo anywys how would any one know?? Thanks ladies

    To say that RAW files can't be edited is just plain incorrect. I edit RAW files every day. The files are used because they give MORE information to edit! That's the whole point. They're just wrong.

    Please encourage someone to do research as to what RAW files are, because right now, they're looking at spending tons of money unnecessarily for something that isn't going to suit their purposes. The fact of the matter is that ANY picture can be edited. Anything. You can't protect against that. 

    Best of luck.

    Thanks Chelsea! The guy spearheading this is one of those guys who knows EVERYTHING and is NEVER wrong. You know the type? Thanks again!

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  • Looks like your guys are right and will need RAW. 

    Raw images can be processed and edited and saved as another format, but the original RAW remains untouched.  It can always be looked at in its original.  Any edits are added on as a side-cart, but again, you are not changing the actual original RAW image.

    http://mansurovs.com/raw-vs-jpeg  :

    Because RAW files cannot be modified by third party software, your settings will have to be stored in a separate sidecar (XMP) file, which again means more storage and tougher file management.

    RAW files can be used as evidence of your ownership of the photograph and authentic, non-modified images. If you saw an alien and took a photo in RAW, nobody would be able to say that you used Photoshop to add the alien to your picture :)

     When a RAW image is generated, all camera settings (also known as metadata), including camera-specific and manufacturer-specific information, are just added into the file. This means that the image itself remains unmodified ? the settings are only provided as a reference and you can make any changes to them later in post-processing applications like Lightroom and Photoshop.

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    Looks like your guys are right and will need RAW. 

    Raw images can be processed and edited and saved as another format, but the original RAW remains untouched.  It can always be looked at in its original.  Any edits are added on as a side-cart, but again, you are not changing the actual original RAW image.

    http://mansurovs.com/raw-vs-jpeg  :

    Because RAW files cannot be modified by third party software, your settings will have to be stored in a separate sidecar (XMP) file, which again means more storage and tougher file management.

    RAW files can be used as evidence of your ownership of the photograph and authentic, non-modified images. If you saw an alien and took a photo in RAW, nobody would be able to say that you used Photoshop to add the alien to your picture :)

     When a RAW image is generated, all camera settings (also known as metadata), including camera-specific and manufacturer-specific information, are just added into the file. This means that the image itself remains unmodified ? the settings are only provided as a reference and you can make any changes to them later in post-processing applications like Lightroom and Photoshop.

    What you are saying, and the source you linked to, is true. The original copy is saved, if you know what you're doing, and save the original HUGE file in the RAW format. I probably could have been more clear.

    The original point we made remains, though... you're not going to get 7 cameras that shoot in RAW format, with lenses, for under $3K.

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  • imagesuperMcG:
    imageclea:

    Looks like your guys are right and will need RAW. 

    Raw images can be processed and edited and saved as another format, but the original RAW remains untouched.  It can always be looked at in its original.  Any edits are added on as a side-cart, but again, you are not changing the actual original RAW image.

    http://mansurovs.com/raw-vs-jpeg  :

    Because RAW files cannot be modified by third party software, your settings will have to be stored in a separate sidecar (XMP) file, which again means more storage and tougher file management.

    RAW files can be used as evidence of your ownership of the photograph and authentic, non-modified images. If you saw an alien and took a photo in RAW, nobody would be able to say that you used Photoshop to add the alien to your picture :)

     When a RAW image is generated, all camera settings (also known as metadata), including camera-specific and manufacturer-specific information, are just added into the file. This means that the image itself remains unmodified ? the settings are only provided as a reference and you can make any changes to them later in post-processing applications like Lightroom and Photoshop.

    What you are saying, and the source you linked to, is true. The original copy is saved, if you know what you're doing, and save the original HUGE file in the RAW format. I probably could have been more clear.

    The original point we made remains, though... you're not going to get 7 cameras that shoot in RAW format, with lenses, for under $3K.

    I was just looking up a little info, and I read that you can edit a RAW file, just change the file extention and poof...edited photo. But, it saves the original. then I was reading about being admissable in court and it said all you have to have is someone to testify that the photo is origianly/correct, etc...

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  • A raw file cannot be changed.  No matter what you do, it will always be raw and stay the same as shot.  You can do an edit to process and save it as another type of file, but you cannot save it as a RAW file.  You can only shoot raw, not edit raw.  An unprocessed raw file is black on your computer.  When it is opened in a processing program, like photoshop, you can see the image shot.  Changes can be made to make it look brighter, darker, etc., and the changes are saved as another image file, not a changed raw file, and the raw file is still there, as it was shot, unchanged.

    You might enjoy this link - http://www.crime-scene-investigator.net/admissibilityofdigital.html

    Now, for finding cameras, I'd go to your local camera store and have them find you something that will accomplish your mission.  You might even get a discount for quantity.

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