My head hurts from this thread.

MrsBini10

http://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/1/57312812/ShowThread.aspx

TotZiens

WTF???

 

"believe me I teach and can't wait to get my paycheck in Sept.!  I'm kinda confused by those that don't live paycheck to paycheck to some extent.  I mean why work if you are rolling in it to begin with...I know I know before anyone explains it to me it's to keep your stockpile going..." 

 

For real? 

MrsBini10

Keep reading. It gets much more wtf-worthy.

gblake

Sorry to be a pain, can someone direct me there? Which board, which post?

MrsBini10

gblake:

Sorry to be a pain, can someone direct me there? Which board, which post?

I'm on my phone so can't do a clicky but it's the bump Parenting board and it's called "living paycheck to paycheck" or something like that.

stever

TotZiens:

WTF???

 

"believe me I teach and can't wait to get my paycheck in Sept.!  I'm kinda confused by those that don't live paycheck to paycheck to some extent.  I mean why work if you are rolling in it to begin with...I know I know before anyone explains it to me it's to keep your stockpile going..." 

 

For real? 

I questioned that too. Like, if you're not living paycheck to paycheck then you must be rolling in cash.

 The rest of that post - first 3 pages anyway - is a head scratcher too.

Publius

http://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/1/57312812/ShowThread.aspx

Clicky for the lazy and those on smart phones. 

Publius

I really don't think that most of them know what living paycheck to paycheck means...and they're raising children. That makes me weep for our future.

Also, is this a follow up to another post?  There is a lot of anger and defensiveness in that thread that doesn't appear at all to be warranted.  

MrsBini10

As far as I know it is not. But it's the Bump so...well, you know how it is.

stever

Publius:

I really don't think that most of them know what living paycheck to paycheck means...and they're raising children. That makes me weep for our future.

Also, is this a follow up to another post?  There is a lot of anger and defensiveness in that thread that doesn't appear at all to be warranted.  

There was a ton of defensiveness and anger. Also a lot of entitlement, IMO. On both sides. Like, "I may be working class but can still have a year's salary in the bank and those that don't do the same are stupid. " Or, "I have no skills and no money but I have just as much of a right to kids as anybody else."

I can't get behind either way of thinking.

Emily523

That whole thread makes no sense at all.  Off to read the rest! 

GilliC

I think it devolved into huge generalizations, and I kind of felt bad for KC that she wasn't making her point better.

There are plenty of people who live a cushy life because they spend all of their income and buy things on credit and payment plans. They're still living paycheck to paycheck, so when something bad happens they're screwed. They're certainly not in poverty, but they're still technically living paycheck to paycheck. I hope most people would agree that this is not a good idea, although the consumer culture in the US very strongly encourages it.

One of the problems I see with that thread is that a bunch of women seem like they felt personally attacked like KC was saying that it was their own fault for being hard up. And then she dug herself into a hole with some later nonsense.

And FWIW, most Norwegians actually do live paycheck to paycheck, because of the net of the social welfare system, state pension, public healthcare, etc. I have a lot of (intelligent, financially-savvy) colleagues who stress about getting expense reports filed ASAP because they need the money from business trips, etc. back in their accounts for daily expenses!

dulcemariamar1

GilliC:

I think it devolved into huge generalizations, and I kind of felt bad for KC that she wasn't making her point better.

There are plenty of people who live a cushy life because they spend all of their income and buy things on credit and payment plans. They're still living paycheck to paycheck, so when something bad happens they're screwed. They're certainly not in poverty, but they're still technically living paycheck to paycheck. I hope most people would agree that this is not a good idea, although the consumer culture in the US very strongly encourages it.

One of the problems I see with that thread is that a bunch of women seem like they felt personally attacked like KC was saying that it was their own fault for being hard up. And then she dug herself into a hole with some later nonsense.

And FWIW, most Norwegians actually do live paycheck to paycheck, because of the net of the social welfare system, state pension, public healthcare, etc. I have a lot of (intelligent, financially-savvy) colleagues who stress about getting expense reports filed ASAP because they need the money from business trips, etc. back in their accounts for daily expenses!

Thanks for posting the thread. I thought it was very interesting to read it. I am so happy that in Spain they do have the social welfare system even though I think most people here do live from paycheck to paycheck.

I agree with KC a bit when she talked about people being confused beteween needs and wants. However, I dont think she realizes how hard it is for people to find a job nowadays. I think it boils down to the fact that some people grow up with some level of comfort. They are used to cable tv, new clothes, and eating out. When they get older and leave home, they want to keep up this lifestyle even though they are not making enough to support it. KWIM?

Anyway, I was just surprised that people viewed living from paycheck to paycheck as something that is okay.

 

MrsBini10

I'm all for being responsible and saving. I have no problem with saying that people who live way beyond their means need to get their act together. What made me livid was the "it's really easy to get a job if you try" and "anyone can live on minimum wage" statements. Those are both just false, and anyone saying that really does live in a privileged bubble.

dulcemariamar1

MrsBini10:

I'm all for being responsible and saving. I have no problem with saying that people who live way beyond their means need to get their act together. What made me livid was the "it's really easy to get a job if you try" and "anyone can live on minimum wage" statements. Those are both just false, and anyone saying that really does live in a privileged bubble.

ITA with this. I am living this now. It doesnt help that there is over 20% unemployment here. There are hundreds of people trying to get one job.

anna7602

I can't get past page 1.