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UO Thursday
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This is possibly not an UO here.
Why do parents who kill their children not get life in prison? This is in response to the Barlettsville woman whose 10-day old baby was found in the washing machine. She is possibly getting only 15 years. This is one thing I do not understand.
I guess my unpopular opinion is that as horrific as this was, that child's life probably would have been years of pain, abuse, and neglect and I'm not sure which is worse.
Also, a couple of us here went to high school with her.
ET: correct the autocorrect.
I agree! It blows my mind that they do not get death!
I give two thumb's up to the death penalty but I agree that in this specific case, the death penalty is probably not a good choice.
However, Susan Smith = yes.
Back to the death penalty - someone (not sure who and it doesn't matter) mentioned that it is far worse for a person to be sitting in prison than to kill them..the thing is, a person that commits a henious act doesn't have a concious anyway. I highly doubt Susan Smith is sitting in prison mourning the loss of her boys - she is probably sitting in prison upset she didn't end up with her lover - and I highly doubt that two douche bags that killed the mother and children in the CT murders feel any sorrow either. Have you all read In Cold Blood? I think it makes a very good case as to why executing for especially henious acts is good idea - these two men robbed, raped, and killed this entire family in Holcomb Kansas. They were obviously guilty but put the blame on everyone and their dog. They were executed for the murders - the book discusses the executions in great detail - I highly recommend reading this portion of the book. While being lead to the platform, one of the men cried, begged for his life, asked for forgiveness, threw up, tried to run away, bit a sheriff, etc etc before he was hung. People value THEIR OWN lives. Fry them up!
This is so true.
I want people to know about this and be just as outraged as I am: http://www.thegrio.com/news/was-the-youngest-person-ever-executed-innocent.php
Also, this is why I have never been a strong advocate for the death penalty.
While I absolutely understand why you are outraged, I don't think this article should convince anyone to be for or against the death penalty especially given the time in which this case took place (1941), the place (the south), our knowledge of the corruption of the justice system at that time and in that place, and the lack of scientific means available to detectives and officers at that time.
Now, if this happened 20 years ago or last week, yes, but in 1941? No.
(again, understand why you are outraged - this is absolutely sickening - but for this to be a reason anyone is against the death penalty is a little far fetched, IMO)
Entitled to your opinion.
It was 1944 and believe me, it is not a far cry from 2011. The same people put to death these days are still (Texas for example) in large numbers, minorities.
I didn't use this as a platform to speak against death penalty, I used this for one of the many reasons I am not an advocate for the death penalty.
I agree that is a horrible story and that people under the age of 18 should definitely not be executed but honestly something that happened in the 1940s shouldn't really have any bearing on whether the death penalty should be enforced in present day.
I never said it should.
My wording is "Also, this is why I have never been a strong advocate for the death penalty." This means the discrepancies and obvious problems within our judicial system is why I am not an advocate. This is not merely due to the case I mentioned, but this particular case and the MANY others.
And this is one reason why abortion should be an option for some people.
Also, I'm pretty adamently against the death penalty. Mostly, I don't think it serves as a deterrent. In most examples, people know if they kill someone the death penalty will be an option and they do it anyway. Killing murderers comes down to vengeance, plain and simple. People almost seem gleeful about killing someone and it makes my skin crawl.
I felt the same way when we killed Bin Laden. Sure, he (more than anyone) deserved to die, but the glee I saw expressed just felt off to me.
Yeah the jubilation from some people over Bin Laden's death was disgusting to me... but I still think he deserved to die. In my opinion I have never seen anyone that jubilant over a prisoner on death row though but maybe I am just naive.
Yup!! But it seems like the people that should be um, taking advantage of it do not!!
Yeah, and then I wonder why that is. Obviously she didn't want to have a baby, what stopped her from seeking an abortion? Religious reasons, legal restrictions, access?
Maybe she wanted a welfare check? That does happen, too.
agreed.
Why don't people who kill their babies in utero get the death penalty? Oh.....
Yep. I went there.
When you look at this way it does make since. I am not very educated when it comes to all the law stuff so I do say somethings very narrow mindedly. Thank you for a look at the other side of it too.
Well, I'm anti-death penalty regardless, but I personally think there is a large difference in destroying a fetus that is not viable outside the woman's body and killing a living, breathing baby.
I will say the abortion debate is one of the few in which I can totally see the logic of the other side and I have my own mixed feelings on it as well.
I wouldn't expect anything less. That's why I luv ya!
Hey, lets talk about this next! It'll be the trifecta of UO topics.