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Re: Violet, if you're around... can we talk about this?
Merp, Violet, you have a nowhere-near-two-year-old, but don't you think he has some words in him?
I spent my first year in Japan and can't hardly speak any Japanese but what I do know I can pronounce near perfectly.
Don't try to out-think the human mind, especially the developing-child mind.
I've always kind of been like "Helen Keller, that story seems far fetched, I'm not sure about that one." I don't know much about her beyond the movie I watched in grade school.
I promised MH that he could watch dumb shows and play video games tonight and nothing was happening on the internet. I thought, "hmmm, what is something ridiculous to get things moving." I think it was perfect.
I think my newest spin (being way over the top mean) was a little much and not too well received, but I have packing to put off and COD to avoid.
If you think back really far you'll remember that I started as a semi-troll on S&R.
No.
I'm sure I could be convinced, but that's not the point.
that was AWESOME!
right up until the Anne Frank bit.
also I still believe that Kraft hires people to punch holes in Swiss cheese. I don't know why they do it, but I'm certain they do.
I don't even know what to say to this.
Currently Reading: Don Quixote by Miguel De Cervantes
Yeah. I'm with this.
It seems such a random thing to think about too. oh well, such is the internets.
I find it odd that someone with a toddler would believe that intelligence and understanding isn't inherent to humanity.
Click me, click me!
Well, it certainly takes balls (or, according to Betty White, vaginas) to form a strong opinion on something you admittedly know little about. But, you're not the first and you certainly won't be the last.
Also, what GBCK said. Yep.
Soccer Balls Seem Like They're Hiding Something made me die.
Besides which, it seems like all the parenting books I've ever seen recommend laying the foundation for different languages before age 2, because their neuron pathways can be adapted more readily.
Read this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Value-Determination-Story-Keller-Valuetales/dp/0916392074
Your mind will be blown!
I said I didn't understand how she was able to graduate college and write books, not that I didn't think she could learn.
Here are the whomp whomp comments, and I knew they would come. I wasn't making generalities on all deaf/blind people, and the dyslexic comment doesn't even make sense. I was saying that this one remarkable story has never added up to me. Not that people who learn differently can't learn.
I am dyslexic btw. Spent 1-3 grade in a special dyslexia program. This was never a rant on the learning disabled, you read that part in yourself.
I also said I was trolling. So, what I'm trying to say here is, unbunch those panties.
But if she's capable of learning, why wouldn't she be able to do those things? And if you weren't making the statement that deaf and blind people in general can't be educated and successful, what is about Hellen Keller's story in particular that makes you so skeptical?
No, you said that you're trolling AND also that you at least casually believe she was a fraud.
This isn't fun anymore. Let me clear this up.
Again, what is so hard to believe about Hellen Keller's story?
And what does the age of people on the nest have to do with anything?
I don't think it's so much that people are so invested in the story as it is that they are annoyed by blatant ignorance. It's the same reason people get so irritated by the "Obama was born in Africa" crowd.
No one has really jumped on you though in the form of flaming. Most people are just alluding to your stupidity.
So, you FB status is a little exaggerated.
damn nest ate my reply.
I 'get' taht you were trolling. I find some trolling funny--this kinda wasn't.
Trolling that skirts close to dehumanizing people by actually reflecting the way plenty of people still think lands in the 'to close to reality' camp. So, yeah, I didn't find it funny, the same way I wouldn't find you pretending to be a Holocaust denier very funny (although the Holocaust denier would actually be funnier because it's blatant racism, which is easier to combat than the subtle prejudices).
I don't know exactly what it is about the story, maybe it's because you don't hear anything about the successes of other deaf/blind people. I guess it's the hype around this one particular story. Like I said I never gave it too much thought.
The age has to do only with not wanting to tell fb that I'm on the nest.
I don't know how I can say that I really don't think she's a fraud. Geez. The story can be hard for me to believe. It can. It is, but it doesn't mean I want to convince people it isn't true. I wasn't serious.
It was all silly. Most of the replies were silly. I don't think anyone really believed I was serious.
And GB?K it's okay if you didn't find it funny. I didn't do it for your entertainment. It was for mine.
That whole thread was hilarious! My favorites were "I don't believe in Ohio" and "Soccer balls seem like they're hiding something."
But you could say that about any famous historical figure, really. Lots of people do extraordinary things in life, but very few ever get any kind of recognition beyond their family and friends. For some reason, certain individuals rise to legendary status and become symbols of social movements or cultural groups. That doesn't mean there aren't countless others who have achieved just as much.
Also, HK was one of the founding members of the ACLU. What is so compelling about her story is not just that she managed to overcome so much adversity, but that she used her talents and skills to blaze new trails for all people with disabilities and anyone who was marginalized from mainstream society in some way. She made a mark on history in a way that continues to affect millions of Americans.
I'm really trying to understand where you're coming from here. You keep saying that you don't think she was a fraud, but you said in the other thread that you think she could have been blind OR deaf, but you have a hard time believing she was both. Is that what you really believe, or was that more trolling?
My bold doesn't work, but I GOTTA say something about the part between the stars taht I failed to bold.
She was an amazing person and all that jazz, but she actually was firmly behind and involved in parts of the eugenic movements--especially for anyone mentally handicapped.
http://www.uffl.org/vol16/gerdtz06.pdf
Wow, thanks for providing that info, GBCK- I hadn't heard about that. It's another example of the way some of our revered historical figures have some ugly associations. This is pretty confusing given her involvement with the NAACP.
She's more complex than 'the miracle worker'--and that portrayal (the trope of the poor little blind girl) is it's own issue within her portrayal.
Actually, a lot of what surrounds 'the black stork' and otherwise wonderful historical figures is eye-opening.
Violet... you have to stop trying to convince everyone that you totally just wanted to rile people up and that we all fell for it. The Facebook screenshot is just... sad.
Currently Reading: Don Quixote by Miguel De Cervantes