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RHONJ Reunion- Spoilers
Teresa is truly not representing herself well at all tonight. Her arguments do not make sense at all and she never owns her part in the drama. Seems like even Andy got a little frustrated with her. WTF!
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"I'm in a whirlwind of stupid."
I love Caroline!
Teresa is a b!tch. Seriously. She's proven she either doesn't listen to or doesn't understand (more likely) what people say. She creates her own drama.
When you have a problem with everybody, you have to start wondering if the problem is YOU.
I was sad to hear about Caroline and Dina. I know Dina is the youngest's Godmother, but still...it will be interesting to hear more about that next week.
I missed the last 10 minutes. What happened with Caroline and Dina?
I'm interested to hear what happened between Tre and Jacqueline.
They didn't really get into it much, but Tereasa brought up how Caroline and Dina are no longer speaking which I find really sad. Caroline owned up to it, and said it's true, and of course Tereasa threw it in her face that it was all her fault.
Man alive Tereasa was on fire last night! I can't believe how much my opinion of her has gone down hill. But I also feel for her because of everything she's gone through. I feel like it's made her really defensive, and as much as I'm sure Caroline and Jacqueline have had enough, if they're her real friends, they should have stuck by her through thick and thin. They've been friends with her for years, and they shouldn't throw out a friendship that's been tight for that long while she's going through hardships that most people will never experience. None of us know what really went down between them, but I hope they can fix things once Tereasa can see what she does wrong and apologize for whatever it is that she did to throw them both over the edge.
I'm still not a fan of Melissa... she just seems so fake and that she keeps trying to play the innocent card while Tereasa is digging a bigger and bigger hole and jumping right into it. Neither of them are angels, although I believe Melissa is trying much harder than Tereasa to remain a family. I do believe she's a golddigger, she's alluded to it a few times especially earlier on in the season, and I 100% believe Tereasa when she says that Melissa admitted to it when she was drunk. I'm sure she loves Joe, but I'm also sure she was initially attracted to the lifestyle he could provide for her.
I'm beginning to like Kathy more, and I feel bad that she keeps butting heads with Tereasa which is like fighting with a brick wall.
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I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I'm willing to bet that Caroline blames Teresa and Teresa only for the feud between her and Dina. Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't who knows. I just think there's way more to this whole feud. Caroline just seemed high and mighty to me this season.
I also think it is super shitty of Jacqueline to not go to the reunion, but she live tweeted it last night and continued to call Teresa out. She should have been there to say her peace or she should keep her mouth shut. I'm not saying T is innocent in all this by any means but something about Caroline and Jacqueline is just rubbing me the wrong way.
And Melissa & Kathy not telling Teresa there were coming on RHONJ is shady, shady, shady IMO.
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Teresa was so evil last night I actually had nightmares about her. She, not the other women, is the horrible friend. Anytime Caroline or Jacqueline didn't agree with her regarding her family situation, Teresa would get obviously upset and say 'Well, you just don't understand.' Then, she tries to put 'bad friend', 'bad wife' and 'bad cousin' labels on everyone- she is the bad one! I don't care what financial/family/emotional hardships she's going through- that does not excuse despicable behavior. You'd think in her time of need she'd lean on her family & friends for support- not insult each and everyone one of them for profit.
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Completely agree with all of this!
I think Teresa has been such a horrible friend to Caroline and Jacqueline that I think at this point, she deserves whatever they dish at her. Teresa has no perspective. She attacks people, then if they respond, she calls them out for attacking her. Complete hypocrite. Unable to see that she is guilty of the same things she is mad at others for. Her inability to see that she has ever done anything wrong is the reason she is in this mess. Regardless of whatever hardship she is going through, she should never have said those things about the other ladies. She burned the bridge, not them.
I was really rooting for Teresa for the 1st half of the season. I disliked Melissa. Now it's completely the other way around. At least Melissa will admit to some of her wrongdoing. Teresa refuses. And she doesn't seem to care if she hurts others. She blames them for feeling hurt. If she really cared about them, she'd apologize (regardless of her intentions) and try not to do behave that way in the future. Time and time again, she turned nothing into something and tried to make them look like they were the bad guys - twisting everything they said to make her the victim.
I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with her.
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Teresa is a dumbass and a snake. Her husband is a sleazy beast. They really deserve eachother. The only Guidice I like is Gia. Teresa should have been fired from the show.
Caroline's line "I'm in a whirlwind of stupid." was classic. I love her!
I look forward to next week watching Teresa bury herself deeper and deeper into her pit of toxicity and idiocy.
I felt bad for Kathy. She had a look on her face saying, "How did I get myself into this mess?"
whaaat? i completely disagree with this. they tried to be there for her when her financial problems started. caroline was even on teh defensive w/ kathy and melissa when she first met them b/c of what teresa said about them. then she realized that they really aren't bad people after all. teresa would go to caroline or jacqueline for advice and when they would say something she didn't want to hear she would lash out at them. you can only try so hard and be around someone that dramatic/negative/hypocritical for so long. teresa has zero self awareness and will never admit to a mistake. it's always someone else; she is always the victim.
ETA: i am watching the reunion now. i just got to the part where teresa is bad mouthing melissa, they are going back and forth and teresa says "we're in a good place right now, don't go there." i am lol that they are in a good place when teresa just called her a biitch and a gold digger.
Jac & Caroline DID stick with her through the rough times, and even through being burned by Teresa time and again. Enough is enough, and they obviously had enough of Teresa's "friendship".
I still don't like Melissa, but she definitely has been trying harder to keep things in a good place. Teresa, not so much.
The other women were definitely letting Teresa talk herself into holes last night.
Theresa is so freakin stupid she doesn't even know when people are giving her compliments. When Melissa and Kathy were talking about how she kept her head up through the BK and a smile on her face, she was so offended and defensive. Maybe it's because she's too stupid to realize how much trouble she was in? Andy thought there was a chance they would go to jail for fraud but she said NO, but maybe she just doesn't realize. I so cannot stand her and her freakishly small forehead.
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I do think she's not the most intelligent person on this earth. I also think she still, to this day, doesn't realize how much trouble she could have been in. She seems like one of those women who blindly trust their husbands to make every financial decision and as long as she could live the lifestyle she wanted, she didn't ask any questions.
She was defensive. But I'm pretty sure she knew it was going to be 3 against 1 at the reunion.
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I'm getting the impression that Theresa is wildly insecure about her intelligence and her marriage and that is why she turns it around on everyone else and is so defensive/quick to be offended. I appreciated the entertainment value in all three women & Andy calmly attempting to clarify her contradicting statements.
She is a moron. I find it appauling that an "author" of 2 cook books uses the word "ingridiences" she just giggles and says "that's me". Okay so you're perfectly fine with continuing to look like you have a 5th grade education? Nice role model for your four daughters.
I don't think she'll ever understand what true forgiveness and graciousness are and for that she'll be missing out on a full life. I feel bad for her that she's trapped in a marriage with a loser alcoholic who's self loathing has made him hate everyone, but I mostly feel bad for the four daughters who don't have anyone with a moral compass in their lives. I guess this truly is a case of fame changes people.
I'd like to see Kate Gosselin & Theresa on their own show and watch them kill each other.
The irony is - Teresa offended everyone with her cookbook - and she's saying how everyone needs to lighten up and have a sense of humor.
But when Kathy was talking about not wanting to start the bakery business because she wants more time with her kids, Teresa flew off the handle and goes into basically a rage - and that's what Teresa does ! She needs to take her own advice!
Of course something huge happened that they can't talk about, so that is interesting how now we have to wait to find out how everything went down.
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I think this is her main problem.
I think she became desperate and I think we saw what she was made of. With all of their money and legal whoas she knew she had to start bringing in the cash. And what better way to do it then sell your rights to a vow renewal (puke) to a gossip magazine and bash people so others will buy your cookbook. She sold her sole to the devil and lost all of her loyalty.
I liked her in the first season as well. But I think money and fame have shown her true colors.
I used to love this show. Now it is either too boring (Caroline and the kids) or too much drama (Theresa). I used to liked them both but now I feel they are both hypocrites. None of them talks with their respective sibling but they still talk about how family it is the most important thing for them.
Shame on Melissa and Kathy (they obviously wanted to be on the show) but I will never ever compromise the health of my in-laws, the happiness of my children and my husband's wellbeing for money. They have already plenty in such a bad economy. They should be thankful.
Overall it was a "whirlwind of stupidity" LOL
I am planning to look part 2 and then next season. When does it starts?
I may be alone on my opinion on last nights reunion but I kind of felt they all ganged together and blammed Teresa for everything. I am not defending her but saying she was fighting them all off and its really sad. I am not on board with Melissa, Something about her just won't let me believe she is the innocent person she wants us to think she is.
I am usally a fan of Caroline but last night I couldn't say I was. If the comment in the book is what caused her to give up on their friendship then I can't agree with her. Yes Teresa was wrong but that's her personality.
I thought that Teresa was super defensive, she needed to let her guard down and try to talk it out with women instead of just rolling her eyes and throwing up her hand and saying whatever. The things she said to Melissa were terrible, I though they were on better terms? Hello- she called her the devil? Was that necessary?
I am a Caroline fan, but sometimes I wonder if she hides behind that "I always rise above" attitude. It takes two to fight, and yes what Teresa put in her book was stupid and had NOTHING to do with her book- really she had to bring up the car wash- what did have to do with anything? But in reality they needed to laugh at it and move on, however Teresa should have told them so they were prepared for what was coming before the book was released.
I think Jacqueline should have been there- she looked like a coward not going- although we won't know exactly what happened until season 4 comes out. She should have been a big girl and showed up and confronted Teresa if she was so upset about it.
I like Melissa I think she really just wants the family to get along.
I also like Kathy, but I think she is just over trying to make everyone get a long- at the end of the day you gotta worry about yourself and your own family.
Anyone else sick of Teresa saying the word "beauitful"? OMG- its always 4 beauitful children, or a beauitful photo- please use another word!
I honestly think that Teresa is an ignorant moron. And I died when she brought up the small forehead comments!
I loved Caroline and her feeling like she's getting dumber as the minutes go on/whirlwind of stupid. I felt like she was more restrained than usual and let Teresa spew her inaccuracies, etc. compared to past season's reunion shows. But, it's gonna hit the fan next week!
I love Andy. He totally called Teresa and Joe out for withdrawing from their bankruptcy filing in order to avoid fraud charges. He does not miss a beat!
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Um, anyone else LOL at this? Just me then?
i did too
This reunion made me see Carolina in a different light. Usually she is the one who rises above but last night she definitely got down on Teresa's level- Like bringing up things Teresa said when they were friends (Teresa not wanting to make up with her brother, not wanting Melissa to be on the show, etc.) Obviously Caroline and Dina had a falling out and Caroline is placing all of the blame on Teresa. Dina always seemed to have a level head so I find it hard to believe Teresa could be he only cause of the rift.
I think Teresa has definitely made herself look bad this season but given the situation of having to film with family members that she was feuding with, I am not surprised. I think Melissa is so fake and extremely opportunistic.
I agree with everyone else about Jacqueline- either come to the reunion or keep your mouth shut. She seriously tweeted that Teresa was garbage. It doesn't get much more immature than that.