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Lame-O question spurred by The Three Muskateers movie.
Way way way way back in the day, how do you think a poor person who traveled far away from home eventually traveled back home? I realize there were maps, but I personally don't think that peasants had access to them. Maps were probably few and far between back then. I imagine getting back home would be harder and harder the further away you got. Do you think that once they left, that was it?
Yea, this is lame, but it's been bothering me! BTW, the movie is really good if you're into a Pirates of the Caribbean type movie.
Re: Lame-O question spurred by The Three Muskateers movie.
Most peasants didn't leave home back in the day.
These two sentences contradict each other. Please tell me what is more simple than getting on an interstate and getting off at the (clearly labeled) exit.
And where exactly are these peasants going? Vacation? Business conferences?
I was thinking simple as in one way to get to and from a place. In a sense I guess there one road was the interstate. That's assuming there was one road I really have no idea.
Also, I'm not sure L3 means peasants as in the beggars on the street. I took it to mean the merchants and other lower class people. Maybe I'm wrong.
ETA: I lol'd at the vacation/business conference.
Idk where they're going. This is all hypothetical. Say they're recuited into war and after so many years in the service they can go home (a la Gladiator). If Russel Crowe hadn't died, how would he have gotten back home to his presumably not dead wife and kid? Or say young adult peasant boy wants to go to the big village he heard of in passing to find work and make better money for his family. How would he get back to his family to bring them said money?
I agree that it seems to me that less roads would make it harder to get home. Not easier.
Another idea is they get home by word of mouth. Just ask everyone for directions as they go.
I honestly really think some historical knowledge would be of benefit here. Back in the musketeer days, people that didn't have lots of money, really didn't have money, or they were a soldier in which case they didn't have money, but at least they were 'taken care of' so to speak. Most people lived and died in their same villages without ever traveling the way we do now. They didn't have the money for transportation or food/lodging to get from one place to another, which were usually few and far between anyway.
ETA: So the hypothetical you're trying to create and find answers for really wasn't the case.
This is the point here. Poor farmers and people like that (which was the vast majority of people) didn't travel at all because they were farming their land. Their kids didn't travel because they were working on the farm too. So this was a non-issue.
I would like to thank the 4 of you for this thread. I really needed a good laugh and this did it. I don't know what my favorite part is, LB's vacation/business conference comment, L3's constant rambles of unending silly hypotheical questions, MJW desperately trying to make sense of what it is L3 is asking and attempting to answer her, or Madisen trying to bring an end to all the madness with a little (much needed) history lesson. Love.
Damn you all.
I find it really hard to believe that some poor kid didn't have the moxy to make it better for himself, even back in the day. There are even stories in the bible that have poor people traveling great distances in famine to get grain for their family to bring back home. Dudes even traveled to different countries to find a chick to marry. If you dont believe the bible is true, you have to believe that the stories are rooted in some kind of truth. It might not have been the norm, but I'm sure it sometimes happened.
Hey, no damning me. I'm on your side.
I see your point. Other than God telling them how did Jesus and the Apostles know how to get to where they were traveling? How did Moses know how to get to that mountain? How did Aladdin know how to get to the Geni? How did Simba know how to get back to the Pride Land? (I may have taken that a little far.)
Nooooooooooo
Yes. This is the best explanation so far!
I 2nd this.
Ok, well, wait. Are we talking about the early/middle/late Middle Ages? Are we talking about early Renaissance when the Musketeers existed? Are we talking about Biblical times? Because each one of those hypotheticals are completely different.
In Europe, poor people really didn't travel nor did they own land. They lived on land owned by someone else and farmed it for them and therefore owed their lives and livelihood to them. If a soldier went on a Crusade or a pilgrim went to the holy land, then yes, they eventually tried to make it home although the vast majority of them just died thanks to robbery/war/the plague/crappy health/crappy food/horrible weather and inappropriate clothing/the odds. Recently I did a family tree back to that era and most of the men in the 1300s died in Palestine, ie, the Crusades and one of those guys got the plague on the way. Maybe 1 made it back. They were gone for years and essentially spent their adult life expectancy away from home.
In Biblical times, it was somewhat different because there was more land to go around, but if you left, you didn't usually leave on your own--you just took your family with you. Unless you were a poor young man, and then you might leave on your own, but you didn't go far. The people that did, if they intended to come back, took note of the stars, landmarks, length of travel, etc. But generally trips were very long because they just stopped and lived there along the way. That said, anyone trying to make it better for themselves mostly didn't, unless they were extremely charismatic, because it was nearly impossible to change classes, especially if you had nothing to start with.