I just read NetBlueSky's post and that was helpful as I am in a similar position (that I have been posting about recently). I am not putting the cart before the horse, I simply want to know what to do in a situation of accepting offers and negotiating. I've never been in a situation where I was able to negotiate, they've always presented me with my offer letter and the amount typed up and asked to sign.
In my current situation, it is possible that I will get an offer for a new position that will not have clear boundaries. If it is anything similar to what I am doing now, it is a lot more responsibility than I think they will ever pay me for. IF I am offered something, would it be appropriate to ask if I could think it over for the evening and get back to them in the morning?
This may or may not happen, and it certainly could happen any day or into early next year. I have plenty of ammo and an idea of what I think I should get paid, but since I've never negotiated before I am nervous I won't say it right if it is scheduled out of the blue. I've already interviewed three times (for other positions but same managers) and most likely wouldn't interview again before the offer.
2nd question - if you are given an offer letter and asked if that is fine, would you still negotiate? Would you ask what the range is and start explaining why you deserve, x amount?
3rd question - I am also planning to ask that HR bridges my time from my first employment with company to now, a full bonus instead of prorated. If the offer is much lower than I am hoping (probably 15K less than I am wanting) is there anything else you would ask for in place of the higher pay?
TIA!!!!
Re: Is this appropriate?
Regarding your first paragraph, just because you got a written offer and were asked to sign doesn't mean you couldn't have negotiated. I've had letters re-issued after we negotiated anything from salary to start date.
Regarding the second paragraph, yes, you're well within your rights to ask to look over the offer and give them an answer, anywhere from the next day to a few days from when you get it. NBD
If I was given an offer letter and asked if it was fine, I'd say, "I was looking more in the range of $X." I wouldn't start explaing unless they asked. And I'd have research to back it up. I'd also keep benefits in mind, as well as the pay band. I'd rather come in at the middle of the payband instead of at the top and have no room for salary advancement. And I'd be OK with taking slightly less pay for better PTO or health insurance.
I don't understand the 3rd question.
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HR might just come back and say, "Fine, why don't you just start the Monday after you leave your job?"
In lieu of higher pay, I would take more vacation.
I am lost on the 3rd question also, except for the last part - I would definitely ask for more time off in lieu of higher salary.
There is always room for negotiations as well as time to consider an offer.
I understood that 3rd question, because it is common one I receive. We have a policy that if you left on good terms/eligible for rehire AND return within 6 months, from the last day worked, then we can bridge the time. You can ask what the policy is for bridging time.
In our company, vacation time (along with other benefits) is scale based upon number of years with the company. If she left as a 5 year employee, then returns within 6 months, she would considered a 5 year employee, with eligibility for the PTO, vacation, etc for a 5 year employee.
Thank you VERY much for your suggestions. I feel more confident now.