Go read this thread, then come back and tell me what you think

maratea

http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/1/61173906/ShowThread.aspx

It's on P&CE about the Duggar's miscarriage and the name they gave the child.

 

 

pirategal03

People are crazy judgy and it makes me sad.

 

I'd like to know the middle names of the other kids.  I think Jubilee is a good name in this situation.  It fits with the "J" theme, and is such a contrast to the sadness of her death that I think it may bring them some comfort, and isn't that the point?.

annakb8

Some people in that thread were being huge assholes. And I don't think Jubilee is that bad as far as names go.

Seshat411

I don't have time for all the pages so I just read the first.

I don't like the name. At all. But not because of the religious reasons they mentioned, about using names from a religion that's not your own. I personally don't care what religion a name is associated with, unless it's used for negative purposes, I guess. But in this case, who cares? It's special to them.

As for the funeral, I don't find it weird. She was pretty far along, right? H's stepbro and his wife miscarried at 5 months recently and had a small funeral, and it helped them greive. So, to each their own.

rachers1017

Yikes, that was intense. I had to quit reading. I don't care if you think someone else's name is awful - that doesn't make it alright to say things like that.

 

::pats the high horse::

LesPaul

I think it got seriously out of hand, even for TN.  I don't care for the name, but I understand the significance to them, and it's none of my business.  I know not everyone agrees with their lifestyle and reproductive choices, and I wish they would get off the media whore train, but come on.  They lost a child far into the second tri, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.  I hope the funeral is private and brings them some comfort.

maratea

annakb8:

Some people in that thread were being huge assholes. And I don't think Jubilee is that bad as far as names go.

This is what I thought as well. I just hope that none of those assholish people have to go through that and figure out what they want to name their dead kid and if they want to have a funeral/memorial. And I don't even like the Duggars, not even one bit.

kodakitty

I've read the first page so far. I'm disgusted. I'm not a huge Dugger fan, but I respect life enough to not make cruel jokes about their loss.  I can't imagine miscarrying let alone that far along in a pregnancy. I feel they have every right to cope with this as they choose fit and I like the name they chose.

Steph0871

That thread makes me so sad.  So so sad.  I get it. Some people hate the Duggars (which I really will never understand.)  Some people hate kids and babies. But to MOCK the death of a family's child!? Seriously!?  (insert debate one whether or not 5 month old fetus is a real 'child'. blahblahblah. They obviously do, and that's what matters.)

 

Steph0871

maratea:

annakb8:

Some people in that thread were being huge assholes. And I don't think Jubilee is that bad as far as names go.

This is what I thought as well. I just hope that none of those assholish people have to go through that and figure out what they want to name their dead kid and if they want to have a funeral/memorial. And I don't even like the Duggars, not even one bit.

Yeah, that.

A few people brought up the fact that they probably HAD to pick a name anyway, for the death certificate. so sad.

Celles

I agree with swimbike's assessment on page 3.  If that makes me a horrible person by TN standards, oh well.

Girlie1030

kodakitty:

I've read the first page so far. I'm disgusted. I'm not a huge Dugger fan, but I respect life enough to not make cruel jokes about their loss.  I can't imagine miscarrying let alone that far along in a pregnancy. I feel they have every right to cope with this as they choose fit and I like the name they chose.

 

Exactly this.  And I've been to a funeral like they're planning to have - it was heartbreaking and lovely and most importantly very needed by the parents. 

DNAtime

**Nerd Alert!**  Jubilee was my favorite X-man growing up. I though she was so cool in the comics!

Man that thread is heartless.

annakb8

And I will say, nothing in there actually surprised me. I'm not surprised some people think like that, and I don't judge them for it either. But there is a difference between thinking something and putting it all out there on the internet. Some things are better kept to yourself. 

Celles

I stopped following X-Men comics for a while.  Apparently, Jubilee is a vampire now. 

DNAtime

Lame.

anna.oskar

Steph0871:

That thread makes me so sad.  So so sad.  I get it. Some people hate the Duggars (which I really will never understand.)  Some people hate kids and babies. But to MOCK the death of a family's child!? Seriously!?  (insert debate one whether or not 5 month old fetus is a real 'child'. blahblahblah. They obviously do, and that's what matters.)

 

 

Thank you Steph.  You've perfectly put into words what I was unable to.  So sad.

DNAtime

I most definitely agree with this. 

ETA: Nest fail. I agree with Anna

chelseamb11

I find this whole thing so sad.  While I agree it is probably to the point of irresponsibility to keep trying, a life is a life, whether it was their first child or their 20th.  I don't get how people can have so much sympathy for a woman who miscarries her first or second child, but actually mock her when she miscarries her 20th... it's just plain mean.  Just because they have a lot of kids doesn't mean they love the younger/newer children any less.  This is horrible for anyone to experience and I find it completely heartless to take an "I told you so" approach to all of this.  Even if they didn't make the best decisions by many people's standards, it doesn't mean they need hate spewed at them. 

rachers1017

Kind of off topic, but did Mery move over to TN indefinitely? I feel like that's the first time I've seen her in awhile.

lbarr088

DNAtime:

**Nerd Alert!**  Jubilee was my favorite X-man growing up. I though she was so cool in the comics!

Man that thread is heartless.

I agree, absolutely heartless.  And to think people complain about SB and how rude the regs are.  Nope.  I don't see anyone saying mean things about the name of a miscarried child.   

LesPaul

I agree, mara.  I'm not a Duggar fan, but they certainly don't deserve any of that hatred.

Seshat411

Everything else aside, I really don't like the J names. Or maybe I just don't get it. Her name is a M, right? So why are there no M names?

My uncle is an R, and all three kids have R names, while his wife is an M. If that were me, I'd feel like it was a big slap in the face to be left out like that.

AllAboutTheBenjamin

The eff?  I can't read past the first page.  Sickening, really.

Nattie24

Seshat411:

Everything else aside, I really don't like the J names. Or maybe I just don't get it. Her name is a M, right? So why are there no M names?

My uncle is an R, and all three kids have R names, while his wife is an M. If that were me, I'd feel like it was a big slap in the face to be left out like that.

There oldest son.. I think Josh(?) has two kids Macknzie and Micheal, maybe they are doing the M names for his mother?

anna.oskar

Seshat411:

Everything else aside, I really don't like the J names. Or maybe I just don't get it. Her name is a M, right? So why are there no M names?

My uncle is an R, and all three kids have R names, while his wife is an M. If that were me, I'd feel like it was a big slap in the face to be left out like that.

Off their website:

Joshua is named after a biblical figure, but Jana and John-David were just names that the Duggars liked.But once they had three J's, they didn't want the fourth baby to feel left out, in case that baby turned out to be the last. So the J's continued...and continued... 

ahhhitsshannyn

I agree with steph. These people are just being assholes about it. There is no way around it. The duggars are a family that people love to hate.

AllAboutTheBenjamin

Myself, my sisters and my parents all have D names.  Beh.

AllAboutTheBenjamin

djhar:

AllAboutTheBenjamin:

Myself, my sisters and my parents all have D names.  Beh.

Your parents had incredible taste in names!  

Aw thanks I can appreciate it now.  Growing up I thought they were dorks.

...See what I did there? bahahaha.

Seshat411

That's different, AATB. You ALL have D names. Your mom wasn't left out.

I asked my uncle once why there were no M names for his wife and he just shrugged and said "What would be the point?" Maybe that's why I kind of feel bad for the Duggard mom, being left out like that.

jcbsjr

What's with the troll over there anyway?  Where is the mod?  That is effing annoying it and of itself.

 And I don't think Jubilee is all that bad.  I like it better than Apple or Moon and some of the other celebrity names I see.

 

ETA: Sesh, YGPM back.