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I can't believe we are doing this ( Pet Related)

My Dad called me tonight. J that we got Simon from has found another mini doxie that is need of a home for us. A little year and a half old girl. I can not believe I said yes. I can't wait to get her this weekend. She had her vocal cords cut ( or removed?) I'm not sure but I know she can't bark, I feel so bad for her but can't wait to meet my new baby!
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Re: I can't believe we are doing this ( Pet Related)

  • Yay! Doggie! I'm sure she'll be very happy to have her forever home with you. Can't wait to see pics, those are some of the cutest dogs.
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  • imageAmaristella:
    Yay! Doggie! I'm sure she'll be very happy to have her forever home with you. Can't wait to see pics, those are some of the cutest dogs.

    I will post some just as soon as we get her home! 

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  • Aww excited for you! Poor puppy though. 
  • Oh my gosh, who would do that to a dog? That is so sad. I am glad that you are willing to open your home up to her. Poor girl. 
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  • imageBrandienee85:
    Oh my gosh, who would do that to a dog? That is so sad. I am glad that you are willing to open your home up to her. Poor girl. 

    I know. I was heart broken when my Dad said she had had that done to her. 

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  • Poor little girl! But so happy you're taking her in! Two doxies are so much fun, I love visiting my mom and seeing hers and mine play around. 

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  • That's so sad! I hope she fits in well with your family. 
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  • imageblueshirt2003:
    That's so sad! I hope she fits in well with your family. 

    I hope she does too! I think Simon will love having a buddy and the cat will be glad to not be the dog's only buddy other than us! 

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  • imageErikandAfton:
    My Dad called me tonight. J that we got Simon from has found another mini doxie that is need of a home for us. A little year and a half old girl. I can not believe I said yes. I can't wait to get her this weekend. She had her vocal cords cut ( or removed?) I'm not sure but I know she can't bark, I feel so bad for her but can't wait to meet my new baby!

    Is that an ELECTIVE surgery or one that was necessary for her health? If it's elective then I think that is just plain cruel.

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  • Enjoy your new girl!
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    imageErikandAfton:
    My Dad called me tonight. J that we got Simon from has found another mini doxie that is need of a home for us. A little year and a half old girl. I can not believe I said yes. I can't wait to get her this weekend. She had her vocal cords cut ( or removed?) I'm not sure but I know she can't bark, I feel so bad for her but can't wait to meet my new baby!

    Is that an ELECTIVE surgery or one that was necessary for her health? If it's elective then I think that is just plain cruel.

    I believe that it was elective before she was given up to the foster mom who has her now. I'll find out more later today and Saturday. I think if my Dad hadn't told me she had this I would have passed but the minute he told me I was almost in tears in the middle of the juice isle in Safeway and kept saying Dad that's so so so mean, poor baby girl she needs me. So she is ours now. 

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    imageErikandAfton:
    My Dad called me tonight. J that we got Simon from has found another mini doxie that is need of a home for us. A little year and a half old girl. I can not believe I said yes. I can't wait to get her this weekend. She had her vocal cords cut ( or removed?) I'm not sure but I know she can't bark, I feel so bad for her but can't wait to meet my new baby!

    Is that an ELECTIVE surgery or one that was necessary for her health? If it's elective then I think that is just plain cruel.

    It's called debarking.  Don't Google it unless you're in the mood to cry and be angry.  It doesn't actually prevent the dog from barking; It creates a really hoarse, echo-type sound when the dog attempts to bark.  The a-holes who typically debark animals do the procedure from the outside, so you can see the wound all the way down their throat from outside their body.  The sneakier ones do it from the inside.  It's a very common practice in puppy mills to attempt to keep the noise down.  The scar tissue that forms is enough to kill most dogs as it closes off their esophagus. 

    A, you said E's aunt is in rescue, right?

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    imageErikandAfton:
    My Dad called me tonight. J that we got Simon from has found another mini doxie that is need of a home for us. A little year and a half old girl. I can not believe I said yes. I can't wait to get her this weekend. She had her vocal cords cut ( or removed?) I'm not sure but I know she can't bark, I feel so bad for her but can't wait to meet my new baby!

    Is that an ELECTIVE surgery or one that was necessary for her health? If it's elective then I think that is just plain cruel.

    It's called debarking.  Don't Google it unless you're in the mood to cry and be angry.  It doesn't actually prevent the dog from barking; It creates a really hoarse, echo-type sound when the dog attempts to bark.  The a-holes who typically debark animals do the procedure from the outside, so you can see the wound all the way down their throat from outside their body.  The sneakier ones do it from the inside.  It's a very common practice in puppy mills to attempt to keep the noise down.  The scar tissue that forms is enough to kill most dogs as it closes off their esophagus. 

    A, you said E's aunt is in rescue, right?

    Oh my gosh I didn't look it up but just what you said seems even worse than what I was expecting. 

    Ojo, its not E's aunt its my mom's BFF. And we were wanting to get Simon a buddy and wanting another rescue so its perfect. I'm sort of worried that its going to stress her out that she can't bark normally and Simon can and does. J didn't seem to think it was a problem though. She is getting checked out this morning just to make sure her shots are all current. ( I'm sure they are but both J and the foster mom are vet techs and they just want to make sure she is good to go before we get her.) 

    I was going to ask you though as far as feeding them. Should I put them in separate rooms? Or should I try putting their bowls in the same room just far enough apart and see what they do before I determine how to feed them together?

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  • Dogs are incredibly resilient.  It took about a year for Bandit and Wilson to settle in and start to show their personalities, so I wouldn't worry if your girl is timid or quiet at first.  Bandit very rarely barks and when he does, it sounds funny, but I think that's because of his breed and personality.  The other dogs are both very vocal and it doesn't phase him. 

    When we got Wilson, I think we put the baby gate up and fed him after the other dogs had eaten.  He doesn't respect personal space.  If you don't already, this is a good time to start making them wait at a certain spot (near a doorway or a threshold between the living room and kitchen) so you can put down their food bowls without them jumping at you.  It takes practice, but with multiple dogs, it's so much easier to not have them underfoot.  Since she has been debarked, I'd keep a close eye on her when she eats just in case she has scar tissue forming and creating a choking hazard.

    I'm sure you guys will be just fine!  Post pictures after she's settled in!

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    Dogs are incredibly resilient.  It took about a year for Bandit and Wilson to settle in and start to show their personalities, so I wouldn't worry if your girl is timid or quiet at first.  Bandit very rarely barks and when he does, it sounds funny, but I think that's because of his breed and personality.  The other dogs are both very vocal and it doesn't phase him. 

    When we got Wilson, I think we put the baby gate up and fed him after the other dogs had eaten.  He doesn't respect personal space.  If you don't already, this is a good time to start making them wait at a certain spot (near a doorway or a threshold between the living room and kitchen) so you can put down their food bowls without them jumping at you.  It takes practice, but with multiple dogs, it's so much easier to not have them underfoot.  Since she has been debarked, I'd keep a close eye on her when she eats just in case she has scar tissue forming and creating a choking hazard.

    I'm sure you guys will be just fine!  Post pictures after she's settled in!

    I will be sure to do this. I knew there had to be some consequence to the debarking I just wasn't sure what it was. 

    Thank you for all your advise! I'll post pictures when we get home with her Monday. 

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  • I am looking at some articles about debarking to see if there's anything else you need to keep an eye on.  Fortunately some states are making it a criminal action (thank God).  I just learned that some evil people do the procedure more than once to try to get rid of that hoarse sound I described earlier.

    So far everything I'm seeing is to keep an eye on food because of choking hazards, and obviously, since debarking can take away the dog's primary means of communication (there's an intruder!  I need water! Let's play!) she may have found a way around that, and I'm venturing a guess that the behavior she uses to communicate may be annoying.  (That's not unique to debarked dogs.  Bandit paws at me when he wants attention, which we're working on, and Rudi used to nudge me with his nose.)  That'll be something to figure out after she's settled in and she gets comfortable enough to know her place in the pack.  Cross that bridge when you get there.

    Twin boys due 7/25/12
  • OMG, I want to cry just reading this post. Ojo, thank you for sparing me from googling it, because I almost did until I saw that you had given an explanation, which was enough to make me tear up alone.

    If I wasn't at work, I'd be a freaking mess right now.

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    OMG, I want to cry just reading this post. Ojo, thank you for sparing me from googling it, because I almost did until I saw that you had given an explanation, which was enough to make me tear up alone.

    If I wasn't at work, I'd be a freaking mess right now.

    Don't cry!!! She is as precious as can be and super sweet according to J and my Dad who saw her today.  And she is coming to a good home who will love her and care for her!

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  • imageMrsOjoButtons:

    I am looking at some articles about debarking to see if there's anything else you need to keep an eye on.  Fortunately some states are making it a criminal action (thank God).  I just learned that some evil people do the procedure more than once to try to get rid of that hoarse sound I described earlier.

    So far everything I'm seeing is to keep an eye on food because of choking hazards, and obviously, since debarking can take away the dog's primary means of communication (there's an intruder!  I need water! Let's play!) she may have found a way around that, and I'm venturing a guess that the behavior she uses to communicate may be annoying.  (That's not unique to debarked dogs.  Bandit paws at me when he wants attention, which we're working on, and Rudi used to nudge me with his nose.)  That'll be something to figure out after she's settled in and she gets comfortable enough to know her place in the pack.  Cross that bridge when you get there.

    Thanks Ojo for all your help!

    And as far as the bold Simon does stuff like this too. He gets this deep throaty growl if I am not getting the message he wants me to send so I'm sure we will figure out little girl's thing too and work on what is right and okay and what is not.

    Oh and her name is Darcy!

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  • Darcy and Simon go well together!  I used to have a Cabbage Patch named Darcy. 
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