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Robert De Niro has a new baby

Robert De Niro, 68, and his wife,56, recently had a baby through a surrogate mother.  I am a De Niro fan but I vote selfish.  Why couldn't they just adopt?  I don't get it.

Re: Robert De Niro has a new baby

  • imagejulie324:
    Robert De Niro, 68, and his wife,56, recently had a baby through a surrogate mother.  I am a De Niro fan but I vote selfish.  Why couldn't they just adopt?  I don't get it.

    How is it selfish? And how is adoption better than surrogacy? Do they owe the world something? (And this is coming from an adoptive mom.)  And by the way, in case you think adoption is some noble, unselfish thing to do, it's not. For most people, it's not about that; it's about wanting to be parents. Some people choose fertility treatments, some people choose adoption, some people choose no kids, some people choose surrogacy. In the end, it's all about achieving something you want vs what society deems as the right or unselfish thing to do.

  • imagetjenbell:

    imagejulie324:
    Robert De Niro, 68, and his wife,56, recently had a baby through a surrogate mother.  I am a De Niro fan but I vote selfish.  Why couldn't they just adopt?  I don't get it.

    How is it selfish? And how is adoption better than surrogacy? Do they owe the world something? (And this is coming from an adoptive mom.)  

    It's selfish(imo) because of their advanced ages.  How old do you think the kid is going to be when it's Dad dies?  Since their advanced ages is my main gripe I don't see how adoption is a better option.

  • imagebostonjen:
    imagetjenbell:

    imagejulie324:
    Robert De Niro, 68, and his wife,56, recently had a baby through a surrogate mother.  I am a De Niro fan but I vote selfish.  Why couldn't they just adopt?  I don't get it.

    How is it selfish? And how is adoption better than surrogacy? Do they owe the world something? (And this is coming from an adoptive mom.)  

    It's selfish(imo) because of their advanced ages.  How old do you think the kid is going to be when it's Dad dies?  Since their advanced ages is my main gripe I don't see how adoption is a better option.

    But if he's a healthy 68-year-old, he can likely live to be 90 or older with medical advancements. She's only 56, which is young now. Plus, they have the financial ability to care well for their children, even if they physically can't do the things that parents in their 20s and 30s can. Age isn't such a barrier to parenthood that it used to be. 

  • He has like 6 kids.  I think I read it is his second with his wife.  I personally think 68 is too old to have a newborn.  I wouldn't want to have to deal with the aging parents thing in my twenties.  As far as adoption, I was thinking it would be less selfish to adopt an older kid.  Feel free to disagree.  I know others do it too.  Larry King comes to mind as an old guy with young kids.  It just bugs me.  Having a lot of money doesn't necessarily make someone a good parent either.
  • imagejulie324:
    He has like 6 kids.  I think I read it is his second with his wife.  I personally think 68 is too old to have a newborn.  I wouldn't want to have to deal with the aging parents thing in my twenties.  As far as adoption, I was thinking it would be less selfish to adopt an older kid.  Feel free to disagree.  I know others do it too.  Larry King comes to mind as an old guy with young kids.  It just bugs me.  Having a lot of money doesn't necessarily make someone a good parent either.

    Oh, those darn celebrities and their procreation/adoption/parenting habits! And, uh, I don't think I said that having money = being a good parent. I said some of the barriers that come with age can be alleviated by money. For example, I doubt the kids will have to worry about giving up their day-to-day lives to care for ailing parents in their 20s. And things like playing sports with the kids (which I don't do with my kids, even in my 30s, so it's not necessarily an age thing) can be alleviated by the ability to pay for sports, lessons, etc.

    To each their own opinion, I guess.

  • I forgot to say adoption implies a kid already is here that needs care.  Surragacy adds someone else to the mix.
  • imagejulie324:
    I forgot to say adoption implies a kid already is here that needs care.  Surragacy adds someone else to the mix.

    That implies that they owe the system something. I adopted a three-year-old from Ethiopia. If it hadn't been me adopting him, someone else might have. But even if not, I didn't owe the system that adoption and I don't owe the system to keep another child out of the population.

  • By the way, as an adoptive parent of a slightly older child (and birth mother to another child) and being part of a social circle where a lot of older children are adoptive children, I can tell you that adopting an older child is, without a doubt, much more challenging than an infant. An older adoptive child requires much, much more intensive care than a newborn healthy infant.
  • Or foster some kids???

    This is mind boggling.

    When that kid is high school age, he will be 82 and she will be 70.

    This makes NO sense at all to have an infant at their ages.
  • I do not care how they aquired the  child, how healthy they are or how much money they have , it is beyond stupid.


  • I'm with Mags on this one.
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