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Does anyone here find that their single friends just don't "get it"?

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Re: Does anyone here find that their single friends just don't "get it"?

  • imageR.Wilsonny:

    I didn't mean to make it seem like I was lumping all single people into the same category. I mean, even the friends who are still single, they are still great people, but just seem to still be in 'party mode' some of them. Sometimes that's cool - I still do enjoy going out and hanging out with them, but I've slowed down a bit and realize that there's more to life than party party party, unlike some of our friends. And while we're looking to do things like buy a house, these guys still have roommates or live at home. Again, not the worst thing in the world really, but comm'on. Some of these friends are actually hitting their 30's now, so for me I want to shake them all and tell them to grow up already! I think that's it though - I'm just feeling at a different place in my life mentaly more than anything.....we have married friends too and it's just amazing the difference in attitude and behavior between them vs some of the ones who are not married.

    Wow...like you are so mature now. I'm sure they are all so envious of how mature you've becomesince you've been  married a whole 9 months now. I'm sure they all wish they could be like you.



  • imageEastCoastBride:
    imageR.Wilsonny:

    I think I'm just feeling on a different page than the single ones are at the present time. I mean, don't any of you ever feel like this with friends in general from time to time?

    But you're really not explaining very well what being married has to do with this.  My single friends don't like to go out every night.  My single friends actually do have other people (family vs. a spouse) to spend time with.

    I actually know some married people that go out way more than some of my single friends!

    This is why I'm not getting your "my single friends dont' get it". 

    Yes - I do feel like I'm on a different page than some of my friends sometimes, but it has nothing to do w/ their being married or not. 

    I gotta tell you- if you see married/not married as having this huge impact, I actually really do wonder what's going to happen when you have kids.  You want to talk about something tangible that really does impact relationships?  Kids is it.

    And it impacts ALL my relationships - w/ single friends, w/ married friends, and w/ friends who have kids. 

    But I strive hard to not let it hurt my relationships.  I may not see friends as much as I used to, and it may take scheduling stuff out weeks in advance to see some people, but I make it happen and I try hard not to sit on a high horse of "Oh, my friends w/o kids just don't understand my life!!!".  You want to talk about alienating people?  That will do it.  There is actually one person who used to be in my life who isn't anymore largely because of her holier-than-thou attitude.

    And let me add- she started off in the "Oh, now that I'm married" place too.  She really, literally seemed to think she was better than people who weren't married.  Then add in having kids?  Yeah, you really didn't rank in her life if you weren't married and didn't have kids.

    You say this isn't what you mean. If that's really the case, I'm just going to caution you about how you're coming across.  Because if we're all picking this up here - you may very well be coming across like this to your friends, whether you mean it or not. 

     

    I've only read one other of your posts and you don't sound that grown up to me.  btw, "ordinary daily life" here (NYC) doesn't include clubbing much on weeknights.  Most of us work.

  • I agree that it is more of an issue of you growing up, not an issue of you being married.    So you don't want to stay out until dawn?   Is that because you are married, or is it more because you are a responsible adult with a job you have to go to the next day?    I get what you are saying, but a word of caution.......don't play the "I'm married now, so I am soooo responsible and mature" card, or you will just alienate your single friends.   Play the "I'm grown up and have a job" all you want, but I promise if you harp on the fact that you are married, your single friends will slowly disappear.   

    Also, this post reminds me of something a coworker said to me shortly after I got married.    She said something about going camping with her girlfriends, then asked, "Oh wait.  You're married now.    Can you go camping?"    I gave her a snarky answer like, "Oh, no.   It was in our marriage vows that we would never go camping again."

     

  • I think you just don't like single people. 

     

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  • The issue isn't that you're married and they're not- which totally comes off as smug, btw.

    It's that you're living a more mature lifestyle and they're not for whatever reason. Marriage has little to do with it; some of the most independent and responsible people I know are those who aren't married. perhaps because they have only themselves on whom to rely.

    Growing up happens at different rates. I suspect "cab-boy" is looking to preserve his childhood and is threatened by peers who aren't. Not a huge problem unless your DH is totally enamoured of this person and you're not.

  • imageR.Wilsonny:

    But one of our other friends actually had the nerve to suggest to my husband that he put me in a cab once when we were all out together and he wanted my hubby to stay out late when we were trying to leave to go home because we had work the next morning. Totally not cool and I said that to our friend too. (it never happened again after that, but just giving that as one example of how they don't get it)

     

    I think everyone else has pretty much covered it, but this statement made me laugh.  If he wanted to stay out and you wanted to go home, then what in the world is so wrong with jumping in a cab and going home without him?  I do it often - I just can't stay up late anymore but I certainly don't want to ruin my husband's fun because of it!

  • What, exactly, were you hoping to accomplish with this post? Did you think people would say, yeah, rock on, single people suck and they just don't 'get it'? How do you feel about people who are single following a divorce? Do they not 'get it' either? Get off of your f'ing high horse.
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  • Well first off what you are describing is not about single vs. married friends. It's about people with responsibilities vs. those who don't. 

    Your reasoning for not staying out late and partying is about having to get up and go to work. That has nothing to do with being married. 

    Do your friends work too? Do they go to work? What is different about that situation between you and them? 

    It seems to me that you are the one pitting 'married vs. single' ... of course those friendships and relationships will be different but ... it seems like you are looking for them to be different. 

    I know plenty of married couples who party it up all hours ... lead a very responsible life ... work ... etc. I know plenty of married couples, like myself, who would rather be home and in bed at a normal hour. Same can be said of my single friends. 

    And ... couples with kids vs. couples without kids ... couples with 2 kids vs. couples with 1 kid ... they all just don't get each other LOL sarcasm. 

    It sounds to me like you are trying to play a traditional role now that you are married ... sometimes ppl have a habit of putting down other people who live in the roles that we used to hold. People who are single do not need to be shook and told to grow up. Being married does not mean you are grown up. 50%+ marriages end in divorce ;-) Those single friends who didn't get married simply because they wanted to PLAY grown-up  just saved a lot of money - very responsible LMAO

    Anyway ... your DH's friend suggesting you go home while they stay out ... was that because YOU were coming off as a party dud but your DH seemed to still want to play ... I don't think it is a terrible idea if that was the case. Shrugs ... 

    Good luck! 

  • Why am I not surprised that this was a post and run?
  • No.  I don't choose friends based on their relationship status.  You sound like a smug married.  If you don't want to go to clubs, then don't.  Married people still go out to clubs.  Sometimes they go out separately.  Some live with their parents.  And, there are single people who don't go to clubs.  Many live independently and even have jobs and own their own homes.  Time for you to grow up and realize the difference between maturity and marriage.
  • My husband's single friends or married friends who like to pretend they aren't married are ruining our relationship so I totally empathize. They want to hang out at our house til 1am all the time and want DH to go out with them until 2 or 3am. Lucky for you, it sounds like your husband isn't as suseptible to peer pressure as mine is.
  • imageR.Wilsonny:

    I didn't mean to make it seem like I was lumping all single people into the same category. I mean, even the friends who are still single, they are still great people, but just seem to still be in 'party mode' some of them. Sometimes that's cool - I still do enjoy going out and hanging out with them, but I've slowed down a bit and realize that there's more to life than party party party, unlike some of our friends. And while we're looking to do things like buy a house, these guys still have roommates or live at home. Again, not the worst thing in the world really, but comm'on. Some of these friends are actually hitting their 30's now, so for me I want to shake them all and tell them to grow up already! I think that's it though - I'm just feeling at a different place in my life mentaly more than anything.....we have married friends too and it's just amazing the difference in attitude and behavior between them vs some of the ones who are not married.

    You sound very judgy in your post here.  And, as kuus mentioned, smug.  Who cares if they still have roommates?  Who cares if they want to party all night long?  What difference does it make to you?  Live your life and let them live theirs. 

  • I feel your pain. I have one friend who just doesn't get it. I'm not sure how much it has to do with her being single versus a grade A "clinger". For the past month she has asked me to "hang out" AT LEAST once a week. The problem comes in that she always wants to come to our home versus her apartment and then proceeds to stay til midnight on school nights (I teach so I have to be up at the crack of dawn). I think the issue you see with "single" friends is that "single" friends have a better availability to work 2nd and 3rd shift that married people because married people tend to have kids and daycare is open 1st shift thereby associating married people with typical 8 to 5 jobs. Anyways, I have been friends with this person since we were in high school. I consider her to be one of my best friends but by no means did we ever see each other more than an occasional girls nights until recently. Now she just comes over, raids my cabinets and watches netflix for hours on end. I have started setting time limits on her. I have politely told her several times "no, I'm busy. Catch you another week." or "Please don't eat that. I am saving it to cook for family dinner". I have even said things like "sure we can hang out but I need to getting ready for bed around 9pm". I feel like I'm being tacky sometimes but overall you run your schedule.The trick is to remind them that they are friends not family and family comes first in all scheduling matters. However, you must remember that if they are living alone or don't have those family experiences that they would greatly appreciate you to include them. I tell myself that if the tables were turned, I'd want her to let me come over and chill because we're friends and we're there for each other. If they can't be respectful of you and your life (such as work schedules and not drinking) and you can't be respectful of theirs (wanting to do the previously listed things), forget them. 
  • imageboydstm:
    My husband's single friends or married friends who like to pretend they aren't married are ruining our relationship so I totally empathize. They want to hang out at our house til 1am all the time and want DH to go out with them until 2 or 3am. Lucky for you, it sounds like your husband isn't as suseptible to peer pressure as mine is.

    This is completely related to marrying an adult that wants the same things in life that you do, and nothing to do with "single vs married". If you didn't want a husband that wants to be out with his friends until 2-3am, you shouldn't have married someone that wants to do that. BS on "peer pressure" and stop treating your DH as if he's a child (unless...exactly how old are you and your DH)?

     

     

    And OP, based on your judgement, snotty posts here, I'm shocked you still have people that actually want you around at all, not that they just have different ideas on what is fun than you.

  • imagesilverfanatic:
    I feel your pain. I have one friend who just doesn't get it. I'm not sure how much it has to do with her being single versus a grade A "clinger". For the past month she has asked me to "hang out" AT LEAST once a week. The problem comes in that she always wants to come to our home versus her apartment and then proceeds to stay til midnight on school nights (I teach so I have to be up at the crack of dawn). I think the issue you see with "single" friends is that "single" friends have a better availability to work 2nd and 3rd shift that married people because married people tend to have kids and daycare is open 1st shift thereby associating married people with typical 8 to 5 jobs. Anyways, I have been friends with this person since we were in high school. I consider her to be one of my best friends but by no means did we ever see each other more than an occasional girls nights until recently. Now she just comes over, raids my cabinets and watches netflix for hours on end. I have started setting time limits on her. I have politely told her several times "no, I'm busy. Catch you another week." or "Please don't eat that. I am saving it to cook for family dinner". I have even said things like "sure we can hang out but I need to getting ready for bed around 9pm". I feel like I'm being tacky sometimes but overall you run your schedule.The trick is to remind them that they are friends not family and family comes first in all scheduling matters. However, you must remember that if they are living alone or don't have those family experiences that they would greatly appreciate you to include them. I tell myself that if the tables were turned, I'd want her to let me come over and chill because we're friends and we're there for each other. If they can't be respectful of you and your life (such as work schedules and not drinking) and you can't be respectful of theirs (wanting to do the previously listed things), forget them. 

    WTF does any of this have to do with being married or single? You didn't have a job to go to when you were single?  WTF?

  • imageboydstm:
    My husband's single friends or married friends who like to pretend they aren't married are ruining our relationship so I totally empathize. They want to hang out at our house til 1am all the time and want DH to go out with them until 2 or 3am. Lucky for you, it sounds like your husband isn't as suseptible to peer pressure as mine is.

    No one is ruining your marriage except you and your DH.  You can't blame other people for you and your husband's problems.  It sounds to me like your DH doesn't want to be settled down (married or otherwise settled).

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  • I don't think you sounded "smug" at all and I hope that you are able to find positive mature friends to surround yourself with. Only pay attention to the reasonable replies. :) hearts.
  • A quick thought that no one seems to have touched on -

    Perhaps the OP simply used the wrong words for what she is feeling.  As an example - my husband states that he would rather be a bum at home every weekend than go out to bars until 3 am.  Several of our friends (equally mixed between married and not) are still in that mode.  They believe that somehow his desire to stay home more is due to us being married, or my influence (as if I could/would make my husband do something he didn't want to do. This comes from comments like : "We need more guys nights, so we'll come kidnap you" His response: " why would you need to do that? Just invite us out...."  Hubby says that he no longer feels the need to party every night now that he has a wife at home with him.

    Getting to the point - maybe she used the wrong words - that she feels this kind of change in how the husbands friends are treating her/the couple.  Of course, in the end, this is hubby's issue - if he doesn't want to stay out- HE needs to address it with his friends. If he is still happy to do so, she should happily stay in, or do a girls' night.

    In the end though - it isn't the relationship status of the friends that causes this phenomenon........ 

  • I feel the exact same way. I have single friends from my hometown and college still who are still single. 

    I love keeping in touch with them and hearing about what they're up too. But there is certainly a level of disconnect.. and this was the case even before my hubby and I got engaged. We tend to relate better to all our married friends and family members.

    I don't want to sound smug married, but YES!- sometimes, I don't know how to respond to "who you hooked up with last weekend" or "how late you partied" etc. 
     

  • This is the first time i've used the nest, but I used the knot when planning my wedding...and this is the same problem as with that site...if you read her post and don't agree, just don't respond. This is HER feelings, if you don't agree you don't have to degrade the original poster or anyone that agrees...if she was just trying to find someone to help her through what can be a hard time between friends or something she's having a problem with, she's looking for someone who feels this way to maybe talk it out, NOT everyone to rag her about being smug...most of the people that answered were smug, to say that they know what she means or how she meant it, that's smug if anything. and i agree with the original poster, if you get married and your life doesn't change AT ALL, that's odd to me and with that change, you may feel differently about your friends or anything in your life that changes...so I guess that makes her a horrible person and thank goodness for all these helpful people on here to make her realize it. the nest users suck just as much as the knot users. she needs to find better friends to talk to and get off this site.
  • Actually believe it or not, our situation it totally opposite - my friends are the ones that just don't get it. My husband's best friend hangs out with US all the time and we never have a problem with him being obnoxious - he works too and if he wants to go get wasted he has his cousin to do that with. My best friend and her husband are on the same wavelength as we are - both our husbands get up before the crack of dawn to go to work and they have 2 kids where I have 3 jobs. Now... on the other hand... I was the bar crawler before we got married, not him. So my friends are a little more rowdy.

    Pretty much we're at a different stage of our lives than they are. The majority of his friends are either married, in long-term relationships or older. My friends still go clubbing and are all the time trying to get me to stay up/out until the wee hours of the morning. So I do run into them not realizing that I have laundry to do because its not okay with me to wear 3 day old clothes. I had one of my good friends tell me to TELL my husband that hes coming out to the local strip club with us (I didn't want to go myself, just not my thing) because she wanted me to and I wouldn't, then she proceeded to say he must be gay or have something wrong with him if he didn't want to see half naked women.

    Winner huh? That conversation went REAL well...

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  • I was kind of in your situation, but didn't take it that way. I've been married twice - first at 22, then at 25. However, at the time of my second wedding - only one of my friends were still married. 2 were divorced & a third was teetering on who knows where. I have worked since I was 16 and always paid for my own gas, clothes, food, way, etc. I, however, never did look at it as if I were the "real grown up." I just made better choices and came from a better background - pretty much, I was luckier. My problem is with people thinking that once you find someone that you MUST have kids. I'm 27 years old, my husband and I have been together for 4 years, married for 2. I'm not saying kids aren't in my future, but I got tired of people asking about 4 years ago.
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  • Being married or not being married has nothing to do with being mature. I think some people are just being overly sensitive. When I was single I would open the bars and close more than one of them down, but now I would rather spend time with my husband and I know the consequences of partying until 4A 3 nights in a row and getting up for work at 5A. It really takes its toll on you. Even when I was single and in "party mode" I still paid my own rent, truck payment, utilities, etc. on time every single month. Whether it offends people or not, I do look at those that are my age or older that still do not "have it together" differently - my friends included... at 27 years old with 2 kids and dating your ex-husband, you shouldn't be bouncing back and forth between your dad's house and his mom's house.
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  • I don't think that the OP was lumping singles and marrieds into different categories. For her, in this point in her life, her single friends are more into partying than her married friends. I get it. It's just how things seem to her in HER situation, not yours. Your situation, your thinking, your friends-they are all different than hers. So when you are calling her close-minded, it is really you that is being close minded. And frankly, calling someone a *** for expressing her opinion is rather bitchy yourself.

    And to the OP, I so get it. For my husband and I, at this point in our marriage, most of our single friends are still living at home and have no financial obligations other than vehicles, insurance, and clothing. I do believe that this affects their sense of responsibility. If they were to stay out a little too late one night drinking and lose their job, they would still have a support system from their parents until they found a new job. It wouldn't really be that big of a deal for them, because they don't have near as many financial obligations as our married friends. One friend in particular is nearly 30, still living at home, and acts like a teenager in high school. Life is a game to him, and while my husband and I are years younger in age, we have moved past him in maturity. He actually still hangs out with high school kids, and goes to high school parties. His friend group changes every year as they get older and move on from the party scene, and he is still stuck there. So for us, many of our single friends are not as "grown up" as our married friends.

    Every single one of our married friends were party people until they became engaged, or bought a house in preparation for marriage. Then they had more financial obligations, which brought a little extra responsibility because there was a lot more on the line, and not as much extra money. Our married friends still like to hang out and have a good time and have some drinks, but it does seem that when you have your own family, and your own house full of responsibilities, whether you are married or single, if you have a budget, there are far more important things in life than partying all the time. 

    That being said, we also have single friends who are self-supporting, and very responsible and we also have married friends who still like to go out as often as they can and party all night long. We have no problem with either. Our life situation causes us to not be able to do that, and we recognize that, and we realize that we are not the same as any of our friends. We all have different salaries, different types of living situations, different payments, different responsibilities. And even on the weekends, my husband and I have other things to do that keep us from staying out too late. We have a house to clean and we have dishes to wash, and cars to wash, and EACH OTHER TO SPEND TIME WITH. If we go to bed at 3 am even 2 nights of the week, with our work schedules, and our other obligations on the weekends, we would lose considerable amounts of sleep and our level of communication would be reduced to being grouchy and snappy with each other, and for us personally, that would not work. If that works for you and your husband or SO, then more power to you.  

    So yes, to the OP, I would say that mainly it is our single friends that don't really understand marriage and the responsibilities included. Even the single people who are not still living at home do not have a spouse or  SO living with them so all they have to worry about is themselves. At the end of the day, maintaining the marriage is a full time job in itself and instills a bigger level of responsibility in a person who is truly invested in the marriage, and no I don't really think that people understand that until they are married. In today's mindset though, even married people have divorce to fall back on if something happens they don't like. So in that light, we do have some married friends who don't really "get it" either.

    It could go either way, single or married. But OP I get what you meant, and yes, we have friends-married AND single-who are out of the loop and generally not very understanding if we choose to go home at midnight rather than staying until the club/bar close.

    I do not think that OP was lumping all people together like that. She was describing HER group of friends, not yours. So if your situation is different than hers, the correct response would be "No, my friend situation is not the same, I am not having the same problems" instead of attacking her for her opinions and her life situations. It is not the same for everyone.

    Stop being so over-sensitive and quit bitching at her. She is not the ***, the rest of you are.

  • wow talk about being mean! I'll be 26 at the end of this month and am in a committed relationship so apartantly I have issues growing up. Not that I agree with staying out til 8 am with friends.  I never concentrated on "finding the one" when I spent 4.5 years in college, I was there for a degree and I had lots of friends then and we would hang out and sometimes party til all hours of the night, but never 8 am.  After college I ended moving back to my home town where all of my friends were either married or getting married, and sometimes as a single person its hard to see all of  your friends getting what you want but that doesnt mean that the single girl/guy in the group has issues growing up.  I once got told by a good friend that I was too PICKY and thats the reason I was still single.  If being to picky is expecting the guy to have a good job, good personailty, and being a nice person is to picky then I guess I am.  I went from a crappy high school kinda love in high school to college where I dated some but threw myself into getting a good education and then after college to working like a normal person. I had times that I was jealous of my married friends but thats life. What most married friends dont realize is that their "married life" changes them, they all of a sudden dont care if their single friends are going out, if they have dates, or what they are even doing on most days and it sucks to feel forgotten about.  Me and my friends have instiuted a Girls Night once a month where we get together hang out and gossip and just plan catch up. Next thing I know you will be saying if you havent had a baby by 27 then you must have issues growing up. 
  • It's funny this topic should come up, but I think everyone has different demands in their lives and sometimes people, whether married or single, don't get that. I have one single friend who is suffering from a past relationship that broke up, is not employed at the moment and hasn't been for quite some time, who I think is incredibly bored with her life right now.  The rest of our friends, who are married and single, are all busy with work and relationships and buying a house or just life in general, don't place too many demands on my time. However, since I"ve recently moved in with my fiance, this one friend has been requesting too much time from me and I"ve had to decline frequently. My fiance and I work opposite schedules, and although we live together, really only see each other one day a week with a couple hours thrown in on three other evenings.  He's already complaining about my schedule and stating he would like to see more of me.  I'm struggling with my own insecurities about not measuring up as a live in fiancee and future wife because, I believe, we have so little time together at home.  This one friend doesn't seem to understand that I cannot commit to one day or evening a week to have a supper club, watch movies and discuss books (that I really don't have the time to read right now) and have a sleepover at her place.  I've already expressed to her what I"m going through internally and time management wise with this new  transition.  She does not understand at all.  In fact, she 's been kind of hostile when I explain I can't make a standing date with her on a regular basis.  Plus, we are trying to plan a wedding in another location which requires trips out of town on days off, whether together or separately, such as florist, baker, caterer, minister meetings, etc. tied up with wedding stuff.  She's even gone so far as to ask for a specific itinerary of what I have to do that keeps me so busy. I"ve actually answered her in concrete terms, although I was feeling resentful that I was asked such. Isn't saying you are busy enough for people? Did she really have to have specific dates times and locations spelled out for her?  None of my other friends present this pressure to me - whether they are single or married, or engaged, or whatever. This one friend is really pushy about trying to get all of the friends together specifically on a regular basis. Our professional lives are demanding, our personal relationships take a back seat at time to our professional demands, and then there are all the other things that crop up too along the way.  She is annoying to point of angering me now, and I"m not the only friend in our group that feels this way.  I have too much on my plate as it is, that takes me away from my private time spent with my fiance, plus I have other friends I"d like to see besides her if I do get a free afternoon.  Add to that two aging parents who require attention, I don't have the time, energy or money to go out to dinner with this person like she wants me to.  It's become overwhelming to the point that I"m now avoiding her calls.  I don't think it's necessarily because she is single, I think it's because she's stagnant in her life right now and is looking to her friends to keep her entertained. We are all burnt out with her right now.  She is dwelling on a relationship that ended badly years ago and is not moving on. We've suggested introducing her to other people, but she balks at it, saying it wouldn't be fair to her.  This is the only friend I have that doesn't seem to understand the demands on my free time right now.  But she is not demanding of me only, it's all of our friends that she demands from. She's needy and I don't have the energy for it, as well as the time and money to keep up with her plans for the group.  Incidentally, I also don't understand how someone who hasn't worked in years can afford to go out to restaurants and concerts regularly, while I'm working and barely getting by, not  able to afford things I would like. She seems to live in a bubble not connected with realities that I face.  I'd say she doesn't get it.  But she is the only one of my friends that doesn't get it.
  • It's funny this topic should come up, but I think everyone has different demands in their lives and sometimes people, whether married or single, don't get that. I have one single friend who is suffering from a past relationship that broke up, is not employed at the moment and hasn't been for quite some time, who I think is incredibly bored with her life right now.  The rest of our friends, who are married and single, are all busy with work and relationships and buying a house or just life in general, don't place too many demands on my time. However, since I"ve recently moved in with my fiance, this one friend has been requesting too much time from me and I"ve had to decline frequently. My fiance and I work opposite schedules, and although we live together, really only see each other one day a week with a couple hours thrown in on three other evenings.  He's already complaining about my schedule and stating he would like to see more of me.  I'm struggling with my own insecurities about not measuring up as a live in fiancee and future wife because, I believe, we have so little time together at home.  This one friend doesn't seem to understand that I cannot commit to one day or evening a week to have a supper club, watch movies and discuss books (that I really don't have the time to read right now) and have a sleepover at her place.  I've already expressed to her what I"m going through internally and time management wise with this new  transition.  She does not understand at all.  In fact, she 's been kind of hostile when I explain I can't make a standing date with her on a regular basis.  Plus, we are trying to plan a wedding in another location which requires trips out of town on days off, whether together or separately, such as florist, baker, caterer, minister meetings, etc. tied up with wedding stuff.  She's even gone so far as to ask for a specific itinerary of what I have to do that keeps me so busy. I"ve actually answered her in concrete terms, although I was feeling resentful that I was asked such. Isn't saying you are busy enough for people? Did she really have to have specific dates times and locations spelled out for her?  None of my other friends present this pressure to me - whether they are single or married, or engaged, or whatever. This one friend is really pushy about trying to get all of the friends together specifically on a regular basis. Our professional lives are demanding, our personal relationships take a back seat at time to our professional demands, and then there are all the other things that crop up too along the way.  She is annoying to point of angering me now, and I"m not the only friend in our group that feels this way.  I have too much on my plate as it is, that takes me away from my private time spent with my fiance, plus I have other friends I"d like to see besides her if I do get a free afternoon.  Add to that two aging parents who require attention, I don't have the time, energy or money to go out to dinner with this person like she wants me to.  It's become overwhelming to the point that I"m now avoiding her calls.  I don't think it's necessarily because she is single, I think it's because she's stagnant in her life right now and is looking to her friends to keep her entertained. We are all burnt out with her right now.  She is dwelling on a relationship that ended badly years ago and is not moving on. We've suggested introducing her to other people, but she balks at it, saying it wouldn't be fair to her.  This is the only friend I have that doesn't seem to understand the demands on my free time right now.  But she is not demanding of me only, it's all of our friends that she demands from. She's needy and I don't have the energy for it, as well as the time and money to keep up with her plans for the group.  Incidentally, I also don't understand how someone who hasn't worked in years can afford to go out to restaurants and concerts regularly, while I'm working and barely getting by, not  able to afford things I would like. She seems to live in a bubble not connected with realities that I face.  I'd say she doesn't get it.  But she is the only one of my friends that doesn't get it.
  • It's funny this topic should come up, but I think everyone has different demands in their lives and sometimes people, whether married or single, don't get that. I have one single friend who is suffering from a past relationship that broke up, is not employed at the moment and hasn't been for quite some time, who I think is incredibly bored with her life right now.  The rest of our friends, who are married and single, are all busy with work and relationships and buying a house or just life in general, don't place too many demands on my time. However, since I"ve recently moved in with my fiance, this one friend has been requesting too much time from me and I"ve had to decline frequently. My fiance and I work opposite schedules, and although we live together, really only see each other one day a week with a couple hours thrown in on three other evenings.  He's already complaining about my schedule and stating he would like to see more of me.  I'm struggling with my own insecurities about not measuring up as a live in fiancee and future wife because, I believe, we have so little time together at home.  This one friend doesn't seem to understand that I cannot commit to one day or evening a week to have a supper club, watch movies and discuss books (that I really don't have the time to read right now) and have a sleepover at her place.  I've already expressed to her what I"m going through internally and time management wise with this new  transition.  She does not understand at all.  In fact, she 's been kind of hostile when I explain I can't make a standing date with her on a regular basis.  Plus, we are trying to plan a wedding in another location which requires trips out of town on days off, whether together or separately, such as florist, baker, caterer, minister meetings, etc. tied up with wedding stuff.  She's even gone so far as to ask for a specific itinerary of what I have to do that keeps me so busy. I"ve actually answered her in concrete terms, although I was feeling resentful that I was asked such. Isn't saying you are busy enough for people? Did she really have to have specific dates times and locations spelled out for her?  None of my other friends present this pressure to me - whether they are single or married, or engaged, or whatever. This one friend is really pushy about trying to get all of the friends together specifically on a regular basis. Our professional lives are demanding, our personal relationships take a back seat at time to our professional demands, and then there are all the other things that crop up too along the way.  She is annoying to point of angering me now, and I"m not the only friend in our group that feels this way.  I have too much on my plate as it is, that takes me away from my private time spent with my fiance, plus I have other friends I"d like to see besides her if I do get a free afternoon.  Add to that two aging parents who require attention, I don't have the time, energy or money to go out to dinner with this person like she wants me to.  It's become overwhelming to the point that I"m now avoiding her calls.  I don't think it's necessarily because she is single, I think it's because she's stagnant in her life right now and is looking to her friends to keep her entertained. We are all burnt out with her right now.  She is dwelling on a relationship that ended badly years ago and is not moving on. We've suggested introducing her to other people, but she balks at it, saying it wouldn't be fair to her.  This is the only friend I have that doesn't seem to understand the demands on my free time right now.  But she is not demanding of me only, it's all of our friends that she demands from. She's needy and I don't have the energy for it, as well as the time and money to keep up with her plans for the group.  Incidentally, I also don't understand how someone who hasn't worked in years can afford to go out to restaurants and concerts regularly, while I'm working and barely getting by, not  able to afford things I would like. She seems to live in a bubble not connected with realities that I face.  I'd say she doesn't get it.  But she is the only one of my friends that doesn't get it.
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