Are they really trying to pass new Lily off as a 2 year old?
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/toddlers-cuss-word-modern-family-draws-ire-024407751.html
LOS ANGELES (AP) ? An anti-profanity crusader on Tuesday asked ABC to pull this week's "Modern Family" episode in which a toddler appears to use a bleeped curse word.
"Our main goal is to stop this from happening," said McKay Hatch, an 18-year-old college student who founded the No Cussing Club in 2007. "If we don't, at least ABC knows that people all over the world don't want to have a 2-year-old saying the 'F-bomb' on TV."
"We hope they know better," said Hatch. He's asking his club's members, whom he said number 35,000 in the United States and about three-dozen other countries, to complain to ABC.
ABC has yet to respond, he said Tuesday. The network had no comment, a spokeswoman said.
In the episode titled "Little Bo Bleep" airing 9 p.m. EST Wednesday, 2-year-old Lily shocks parents Mitchell and Cameron (Jesse Tyler Ferguson, Eric Stonestreet) with her first expletive.
The dads, who are preparing Lily to serve as flower girl in a wedding, now have an added parenting challenge.
The tot is played by Aubrey Anderson-Emmons, who says the word "fudge" during taping. It will be bleeped on the air and her mouth will be obscured by pixilation, and viewers will get the impression that her character used the actual F-word.
Steven Levitan, creator and executive producer of the sitcom with Christopher Lloyd, told the Television Critics Association last week that he's "proud and excited" about the F-word plotline that ABC was persuaded to allow.
"We thought it was a very natural story since, as parents, we've all been through this," Levitan said to EW.com. "We are not a sexually charged show. It has a very warm tone so people accept it more. I'm sure we'll have some detractors."
The program, which won the Emmy Award for best comedy last fall, was named best musical or comedy series at Sunday's Golden Globes ceremony.
Hatch, who is from South Pasadena and attends Brigham Young University in Rexburg, Idaho, said he began his anti-profanity club in 2007 when he noticed how rampant cursing was at his school and how it was linked to bullying.
"If kids are accountable for their choices, then adults should be as well," and that includes media, he said.
TV profanity was an issue before the Supreme Court last week, which heard arguments about whether regulating curse words and nudity on broadcast stations is sensible when cable and satellite services offer channels with few restrictions. A decision is expected by late June.
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I'll be honest and say that movies and shows where little kids are made to say curse words really rub me the wrong way and make me uncomfortable. Which is why I only watched Big Daddy and Talledega Nights once. But just ignoring the shows or not watching the movies is not everyone's favorite course of action, so that puts me in a little different category than these folks.
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I saw that too. I can't believe people actually care about this, ESPECIALLY when the kid didn't actually say it (I think it's a bit silly to care either way, but I have some pretty liberal views on profanity).
It's still the illusion of it, though. Like I said before, it does make me uncomfortable, but my way of dealing with that is to just not watch the stuff, not to rail about it and protest and try to bring attention to myself and my awesomely high and godly morals. (That last part was total sarcasm, btw.)
Fair enough. I don't even begin to understand your viewpoint (like I said, I have really liberal views on profanity), but I do at least respect it. I just can't understand being so offended by this that you'd ask them to pull the episode. It seems like a huge overreaction.
Just for sake of discussion, what is your view on profanity? My curiosity is piqued!
Haha well I'm not sure how clearly I can convey it, because there are a lot of situation specific issues. But, in general, I am not offended by profanity in the least. I believe in choosing the most appropriate word for the idea you're trying to express (while I'm not always good at it!!), and it just doesn't mean the same to me to say "gosh darn it I am angry" as it does to say "g-d d-mn it I am f-cking p-ssed off!" Different emotional ideas, IMO. And so I don't mind the use of profanity if it's expressing the truest intent.
Obviously, I don't use it in situations where it isn't socially acceptable, and I get that people don't want their kids to hear it because children aren't capable of making those decisions about when it's acceptable and when it's not - like in the MF episode. But the idea that kids are somehow morally corrupted when they hear a particular word holds no weight for me - I just don't get it.
So in this situation, I don't get what the crisis is - it is a necessary word to convey a really common parenting experience, and it's bleeped so that no other children or people who prefer not to hear it will. And, any potential harm to the child that could conceivably come from saying the word is absent because she didn't say it. So... what is there to be upset about?
Words have tremendous amount of power - I'm a lawyer and an English major, so believe me I understand this.
Does that explain it a little for you?
Yep, this. This is really silly, IMO. She didn't even say the word, her mouth is pixelated, and people are upset. The writers/creators of MF have said many times they base their episodes on things that have happened in their own lives and I'm pretty sure this ep hits close to home for a looooot of people.
Also, lol at the "No Cussing Club"
Umm, this was hysterical. HYSTERICAL.
But I also swear like a trucker and find kids swearing cute.
This is exactly my point of view. I'm a high school English teacher. One of my major challenges is to teach the kids code switching (what language is appropriate for different situations). They would never buy it if I told them there are words that are *never* ok. They must have been ok to someone at some point, or they wouldn't exist. I want them to choose the best word for the situation, given the time and place (and company) they find themselves in - this means not cursing at school/church/etc, not using "like" to mean "says," and the plural of "you" is not "yous" unless you're hanging out with NJ mafia.
I get annoyed with movies/tv shows that have characters who drop the f bomb every other word... but that's mostly b/c I'm annoyed when real people do that. I feel that it depreciates the value of the word to overuse it... it doesn't have the same effect coming from someone who says it all the time as it does from someone who uses it sparingly.
In this case I think it was completely appropriate for the storyline. I also appreciate that the kid didn't have to actually say it to get the point across.
I seriously don't get what the big deal was. The word was bleeped and they didn't even make her say it in the first place.
I also think this relates to real life. When I was little, I heard my older brother say the word "b*tch" and I went around for several days calling people b*tches.
This- seriously. My parents still joke about the first time I repeated a bad word that they had said- It happens. Kids do it. And MF didn't portray it in a distasteful way. It was just silly.
It does, because that's how I feel, too. I do subscribe to the bolded train of thought, but I myself swear like a sailor around my husband. For some reason I don't do it around anyone else, but it definitely isn't offensive to me.
And I also got a huge chuckle from the No Cussing Club.
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I was only about 6 when it happened but I still remember coming home from school and asking my mom what 'fucq' meant. I think a child repeating profanity is something that every parent has to deal with. I don't think it is at all distasteful to address that sort of situation in a comedic way.
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lol, I keep reading "MF" as motherf*cker instead of Modern Family. I guess I'm not welcome in the No Cussing Club.
Well, I thought it was hilarious. The entire episode was hilarious.
It's true, every parent deals with a cuss word. And I thought it was a lesson to parents who haven't yet reached this point to NOT laugh, or else you merely encourage it (as it did in the end, at the wedding).
I don't think it's a terribly big deal. People need to chill out a little bit. The little girl wasn't actually saying F*ck in her lines and she probably had no idea what was going on, really.
And I don't think we are supposed to buy that she is 2- I was thinking 4, as she's in pre-school now (didn't Cam say that?). Afterall, look at how much Alex and Luke have grown up since last season.
Maybe it's b/c I'm a parent, but I thought it was hysterical. There's just no way around it, your kids are going to do something that will completely embarrass you some day and that inwardly you will be cracking up about even though you shouldn't. That is what the show was trying to portray and they did it well. I'm sure the network loved all of the free publicity this caused too.
And that it was started in 2007... seriously that sounds like one popular 9th grader.
My boss's 3yo granddaughter said, "Dude what the f*ck" a couple of months back and he came in Monday morning and told the whole office. We were all dying laughing when he told the story.
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It said they started it in 2007 -- so he was 13? Awesome.
Words are words.
This
It bothers me when t.v. shows or movies have kids use bad words, but when I read that she was really saying fudge it didn't bother me.
(I don't watch the show.)
I didn't know the context of the show or what the story line for the episode was, so knowing what I do now, I think the situation hilarious and ridiculous to ask them to remove this episode. As someone said, what parent can't relate to this?
Doesn't change my personal feelings, but this is a completely different situation than what the protesters are trying to present.