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Quote from Paterno's family
Paterno is survived by wife Sue Paterno, children Diana, Joseph Jr. "Jay", Mary Kay, David and Scott, and 17 grandchildren ? and, his family said, "hundreds of young men whose lives he changed in more ways than can begin to be counted."
no shiit
Re: Quote from Paterno's family
I find more ironic that two days after he became the coach with the most wins in history the story broke. I hardly think its a coincidence.
The grand jury was investigating a possible indictment for years against Sandusky. It isnt something you can just throw together, so no I dont think anyone sat on anything, but they did know that a possible sh!t storm was on its way if they had enough evidence for a grand jury endictment. I think if they (penn st.) could control it they would have waited until he passed so his legacy would still be somewhat intact because he wouldnt be there to answer for his actions. I also dont believe that he knew he had cancer when the story broke. I hadnt seen anything that has said that.
This week is going to suck. I'm basically just going to be angry the whole time. And I'm gonna have to show some great control in keeping my mouth shut cause the nasty mean things I want to say about this dirt bag aren't going to be taken lightly by all the people who seem to think great coaching, big donations, and winning seasons are more important that the innocence of children.
Knowing a bit more than what I would like to know about the story. There are things that I can't say because I can get people in trouble. My father is on the school board of the local school where some of this *** happened. Paterno told his superior. The current Governor Ed Rendell knew what was going on as he was Attorney General previously. Paterno asked for Sandusky's firing as he found out what happened. Ed Rendell was investigating this in the late 90's as was a DA at the time. The DA disappeared.
The reason *** hit the fan was because someone I know witnessed him molesting a high school student as a volunteer coach at a local high school. The person I know stopped it and called police. THAT was when the current investigation started and they had enough evidence against him. The current governor did nothing with his information. In fact he GAVE money to the Second Mile organization. What does that have to say about things?
This was a man who, while dying of cancer gave money to the university to better it. This was a man who did NOT witness anything. The person at the university who did waited to report it and only did so because it benefited him. HE still has a job at the university.
Paterno is dead and you are speaking ill of the dead. Furthermore, Syracuse has it's own scandal and no one is wishing the coach who raped boys dead there. Why here?
I didn't & don't wish anyone dead. I wish for truth and justice for the innocent boys whose lives are ruined.
Joe Paterno was a man of incredible power. People worshiped him. They beleived in him. He had the ability to blow the lid off this. He had the power to stand up and say, NOT ON MY WATCH, NOT AT MY SCHOOL, NOT IN MY LOCKER ROOM. He didn't. He's touted as this hereo, this wonderful man who donated money and had libraries built and did so much for the boys he lead on the field. Where was that guy when a boy was being molested in his locker room? Where was that man when he knew that it was being swept under the rug?
Take a good long minute and think about what you would do - regular plain every day you - if you had knowledge that this occurred? Knowledge that people covered this up? Could you sleep at night? Could you continue to allow thousands of people, an entire university and countless young men to idolize you? Could you? Would you? I hope not. I hope that you would stand up and help the victims of such a nightmare. I hope that you would use all your influence, power and love to right the injustice of it. I hope that you would sacrifice a game, a sport to give voice to young boys who trusted someone in your ranks.
I know I would. And I know that everyone's beloved coach JoePa didn't. And for that no winning season, no all time games played record, no graduation rankings, libraries or donations outweigh the GROSS MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE HE PARTICIPATED IN.
Paterno ASKED for Sandusky's locker room privileges to be stopped. The Board of Trustees disagreed. Ed Rendell was on the board of trustees knowing full well what was going on and didn't say anything. Where's the gross miscarriage of justice there?
I'm not quoting, I hate it.
Who said there isn't? Of course there is. And when they die I'll be just as cavalier about their deaths. Hopefully they all live to see jail time.
SO a teachers aid is accused of molesting a kid in your kids class and the teacher requests that he be removed from the class. Is that good enough for you? Is it ok that the teacher does NOTHING to follow up on it? As a parent wouldn't that sicken you? That someone you trusted your child with could allow something like that to happen without going to the police? Without making sure that person wasn't ever near a child again?
You fight on a daily basis for your sons and someone simply taking away the locker room rights of a child molester is good enough for you?
If I worked closely with you for years and I heard that you were molesting children even if I did what I was required by law to do, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night let alone just assume it was "taken care of", and go on about my days working next to you for another x amount of years. Taken care of would mean something drastic had happened to you. When clearly you were still out and about just doing your thing, I'd be freaking out, following up all over the place, inquiring, pushing the issue etc.
So yeah, blah blah blah to the above..
I agree with this and what Turtle said about him having a chance to blow this out of the water. He did enough to ease his own conscience and then said "oh well, I told my bosses and they didn't do anything". He could have threatened to take it to the Media and his bosses would surely have hustled.
I don't care how many football games he won or that he donated money for a library. He and several other men of power failed these poor innocent kids. Do I wish them dead-no. But I surely won't mourn them for a single second.
the best he knew how? you said it yourself - "he SHOULD HAVE folllowed up with the police".
any person with half a brain knows why he didn't. he did enough to clear his conscience and then washed his hands of it. he didn't want to upset anyone further, nor did he want to ruin his empire.
innocent victims were forever damaged as a result of all of this. he certainly isn't the only one to blame, but he is the only one still being considered a hero, and there is no way in hell he deserves to be called that.
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Please. I wish you could be in this facebook debate I stupidly got involved in about this. Talk about disgusted. I had to back out of it but I can't make myself stop reading the responses
The Journey of Me
Vacation, 2011
Don't you feel like you're banging your head against the wall? If only I could bottle the Penn State kool-aid, I'd be a trillionaire.
OMFG YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its not all Penn Staters. MH is an alumni and is still disgusted over the whole thing. He's always spoken of Joe P as a legend but since the scandal he's just horrified by the whole thing.
People on FB keep saying "But he did what he was required to by LAW!". One guy said to me "If you don't like the law become an activist. He didn't perform those rapes & I don't know why anyone would hold him responsible!!" I didn't answer because how does one even respond to that. The law has nothing to do with his part in it as far as I'm concerned.
All I know is that if I hear from reliable sources that you're raping kids, I'm not working with you, I'm not hanging around you, and I'm not resting until the truth comes out. How does one argue that?? That's what I want to know.
Funny you should say this.... I said the same thing to MH - for the past few years he wasn't even on the field for games. In NJ when you are an active employee and die you have life insurance which has a payout equal to three times your annual salary - I'm curious if there was any kind of arrangement like that. I'm skeptical of every decision he's ever made, now.
It's disgusting that there are so many people that have him on this pedestal... mothers included. I just can't understand it. .
Oh I don't think it is all, I am talking about the two in this post mainly and the other supporters who think he did enough- he didn't, had he done enough- then I would say let the man have his legend- but he didn't, he didn't do nearly enough-
The Journey of Me
Vacation, 2011
I am a mandated reporter, by profession and I can tell you, I would and have done more then JoePa did, for a A LOT less crimes. Sure I could have just called DYFS and been done LEGALLY, but MORALLY I could never in good conscience(is that the right spelling?) do just what I was legally required to do, if I knew what he knew.
The Journey of Me
Vacation, 2011
what also strikes me is that it wouldn't even have been particularly heroic for Paterno to step forward and take a huge stand. Of anyone there, he had the least to lose...I didn't go to PSU, but our former neighbor was a QB under him, and he even said that. That place lived and died by him...he had all the power in the world to make a stand..and the least risk...what did he have to lose?
I could "see" in an intellectual way,,that some of the underlings would be afraid for their jobs and such, but him? Its just too much for me to get my head around.
FWIW...I am an SU alum and I think Fine is a despicable piece of scum, but no one claims that Boeheim covered anything up..I would feel the same about Boeheim if it did.
That's exactly my problem. If he had the balls, if he had the moral fortitude to be a compassionate human being he could have just called a press conference and blown the whole thing wide open. But he didn't. He allowed a sport to cloud his judgement on what was the RIGHT thing to do. We're not talking legality here folks. We're talking what the MORAL THING TO DO WAS.
Someone on the internet said, "What did you expect him to do?" And I said....I expected him to be the same leader off the field as he was on. I expected him to protect all of the kids he came in contact with, not just the one's that played football for him. I expected him to make sure that a monster like Sandusky was never around children ever again, never mind the head of an organization to 'help' them. I expected him to have a press conference about what he knew, not how many games he won. I expected from him what I would expect from anyone who had that knowledge. I expected him to tell the truth and help stop it.