Cruise passengers offered $14k for their trouble

kmslwsmrs

At least they're getting something....although I'm sure they're going to get sued for way more than that! 

http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/27/10248750-wrecked-cruise-ship-passengers-offered-14460-plus-travel-medical-costs

MrsDB

i'm sure there is something saying that if they cash the check they waive all legal rights for a future claim. 

AmyRob04

MrsDB:

i'm sure there is something saying that if they cash the check they waive all legal rights for a future claim. 

that's what I was going to say - usually when you accept the payoff you waive your right to future lawsuits.

Liz051405

They've already been sued. This is the first offer to make the suit go away.

This offer is on top of travel expenses, trip refund and medical expenses too. Curious to see how many people take them up on it. I'm guessing some survivors will. I'm doubting those that lost loved ones will.

Kristen81603

I would not be taking that- give me a break- That is not a drop in the bucket for what they went through, FOR NO REASON! This was something that was totally avoidable and should never occurred!

Mrs.JBW

Not travel savvy - is there insurance to replace the personal possessions (clothes, jewelry, etc.) lost when the boat sank?  Or is this to cover those expenses in addition to the travel and loss of cruise?

kmslwsmrs

They get the 14k, plus the cost of the cruise, plus medical expenses....they are including the items they lost in the 14k.

Kristen81603

kmslwsmrs:

They get the 14k, plus the cost of the cruise, plus medical expenses....they are including the items they lost in the 14k.

nope, sorry won't cut it for me-  

Mrs.TheresaT

when you buy your ticket for a cruise, the contract is really long and full of fine print. it's like youre basically saying there's tons of things you wont hold the cruise line responsible for. They really cover their asss. So I'm wondering how much people that dont agree to this and join the class action suit(s) are going to actually get. I'm not saying $14k is enough, etc, especially for the people that lost someone. I'm just really curious to see, if a judge will order them to pay more than the $45+ million the $14k per passenger works out to be, given the contract. Since its seems human error is to blame, maybe the contract is void. I'm not sure. I follow the cruise industry pretty closely and am really interested to see how this will all turn out. I love cruising and I still just can't wrap my head around all of this. So sad.  

kmslwsmrs

Kristen81603:

kmslwsmrs:

They get the 14k, plus the cost of the cruise, plus medical expenses....they are including the items they lost in the 14k.

nope, sorry won't cut it for me-  

I was never hinting at the fact that it would "cut it" for anyone...although I don't agree that money helps with "pain and suffering" (but I'm sure  it helps some people).  Personally, I feel like if they're willing to reimburse me for everything AND give me $14k, if I wasn't injured, I might be okay with that...although I've never been through anything remotely like that, so it might be different if I was there. 

Liz051405

kmslwsmrs:

Kristen81603:

kmslwsmrs:

They get the 14k, plus the cost of the cruise, plus medical expenses....they are including the items they lost in the 14k.

nope, sorry won't cut it for me-  

I was never hinting at the fact that it would "cut it" for anyone...although I don't agree that money helps with "pain and suffering" (but I'm sure  it helps some people).  Personally, I feel like if they're willing to reimburse me for everything AND give me $14k, if I wasn't injured, I might be okay with that...although I've never been through anything remotely like that, so it might be different if I was there. 

It might help with pain and suffering if you actually used it for therapy or something along those lines.

I do think there are some people that will take it and move on. I might depending on what exactly I went through. I might not as well. I wasn't there.

What I'm shocked about is that Carnival is self-insured for these types of claims. I wonder how much money they hold in reserve for the what-ifs then and if it will really be enough when all is said and done.

The ship was insured and had something like a $30 mil deductible. I am very curious to see what their final monetary damages are and how they weather it.

Kristen81603

kmslwsmrs:

Kristen81603:

kmslwsmrs:

They get the 14k, plus the cost of the cruise, plus medical expenses....they are including the items they lost in the 14k.

nope, sorry won't cut it for me-  

I was never hinting at the fact that it would "cut it" for anyone...although I don't agree that money helps with "pain and suffering" (but I'm sure  it helps some people).  Personally, I feel like if they're willing to reimburse me for everything AND give me $14k, if I wasn't injured, I might be okay with that...although I've never been through anything remotely like that, so it might be different if I was there. 

Oh I wasn't directing it at you, I just mean even with that it would not be enough, can you imagine how scared those people were- and for no fricken good reason! That is my point-  

LisaBRM

Kristen81603:

kmslwsmrs:

Kristen81603:

kmslwsmrs:

They get the 14k, plus the cost of the cruise, plus medical expenses....they are including the items they lost in the 14k.

nope, sorry won't cut it for me-  

I was never hinting at the fact that it would "cut it" for anyone...although I don't agree that money helps with "pain and suffering" (but I'm sure  it helps some people).  Personally, I feel like if they're willing to reimburse me for everything AND give me $14k, if I wasn't injured, I might be okay with that...although I've never been through anything remotely like that, so it might be different if I was there. 

Oh I wasn't directing it at you, I just mean even with that it would not be enough, can you imagine how scared those people were- and for no fricken good reason! That is my point-  

Would it be enough if it was an accident?  The company didn't put an uninspected, broken ship in the water.  Yes, they are absolutely responsible because it was their employee, but, assuming I (and my loved ones) got off the ship safely, I don't think I would be looking to sue and put the company in financial hardship.

debfife

LisaBRM:

Would it be enough if it was an accident?  The company didn't put an uninspected, broken ship in the water.  Yes, they are absolutely responsible because it was their employee, but, assuming I (and my loved ones) got off the ship safely, I don't think I would be looking to sue and put the company in financial hardship.

I agree.

I mean how much is enough if you did get off safely?

Liz051405

debfife:

LisaBRM:

Would it be enough if it was an accident?  The company didn't put an uninspected, broken ship in the water.  Yes, they are absolutely responsible because it was their employee, but, assuming I (and my loved ones) got off the ship safely, I don't think I would be looking to sue and put the company in financial hardship.

I agree.

I mean how much is enough if you did get off safely?

Guess it depends on what you plan to use the money for. Let's assume you actually are scared and having nightmares, scared to travel, can't get the picture of yourself scrambling for a life boat with you baby in your arms out of your head (going based off several news reports here) and you actually plan to use the money for therapy. This equates to approximately 2 years of weekly therapy with my therapist. Is that enough? I don't actually know. Just trying to put it in terms of a "legit" use of the money for one of the purposes it is intended.

Unless of course therapy qualifies as a medical expense and is covered outside of this?

14k sounded like a lot more before I just picked of the EOB for last year's PPD treatment.

tara07733

Is it me or does offering $14,000 to these people seem offensive. I mean, people died and some are still missing due to this accident. I'm not saying that money in any amount makes up for loss of life or mental anguish but it seems like a strange amount of money to offer. This is coming from a person who never thinks in terms of suing or anything like that. Also the fact that the settlement happened so quickly is weird too.

Kristen81603

tara07733:

Is it me or does offering $14,000 to these people seem offensive. I mean, people died and some are still missing due to this accident. I'm not saying that money in any amount makes up for loss of life or mental anguish but it seems like a strange amount of money to offer. This is coming from a person who never thinks in terms of suing or anything like that. Also the fact that the settlement happened so quickly is weird too.

this is my feelings, I was on this ship and had this happen with my kids, I just don't think that is reasonable- I am not saying I would want millions, but it wasn't an accident- I am not all for sue for every little thing- but this was a situation that I am sure scared the crap out of people, there was no plan followed, it was chaotic and I am sure devastating, whether you got off safely or in a struggle. I just don't think saying oh here is $14k be happy- is the right response-  

tara07733

I guess my bigger issue is the expediency of the payout but I think that may just be because here in the USA we're so used to things being dragged out for years so in my head it seems like the the cruise company out little thought into the whole deal. That's probably not the case.

Liz051405

"Separate agreements will be reached with those passengers who were injured and needed treatment at the scene and with the families of those who died, the statement added."

At least they aren't even trying to say this is good enough if you lost someone.