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Teaching?

How hard is it to find a job?  I'm trying to figure out what I want to do with my life and teaching just sounds like a good fit for me.  However, with all the stuff in the news lately, I'm just not sure it would be a good choice.

Thanks for any input, I really appreciate it.

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Re: Teaching?

  • I work at a small special education school (take kids who can't stay in district) with 12 teachers and under 80 students 3-18 years old and we have at least 3 fully certified teachers working as per diem one-to-one aides for $70/day and there are at least 2 teacher assistants who are also fully certified on staff as well because they couldn't find anything else... some have been looking for well over a year. It's not easy to break into anymore and often (though not always) comes down to knowing someone in-district.
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  • I've been trying to get a full time permanent job for about 6 years. I'm a certified special education teacher and reading specialist.
  • In my district it's impossible. My principal got hundreds of applications for my maternity leave spot- not even a full job. I can't speak for middle or high school but elementary is near impossible right now.

    The way to do it is to get "in". You need to sub, take long term sub spots, or be a para in a district for some time so they know you. 

  • In NYC it depends on what your specialty is.  If you are licensed in Special Ed, Bilingual Ed, or ESL, you can get a job if you want to work in a middle school. Also, science and math teachers at middle schools are being hired too.

    As a teacher, though, I feel jaded right now and wouldn't recommend the field to people.  Though I love teaching kids, and feel strongly that we need good people, the system right now is a mess, the job is super stressful as new demands (not related to helping the kids) are thrown at us daily, and it doesn't look like it will improve any time soon.

    I obviously can't speak for the suburbs, but you have plenty of others who have.

  • imageNygirl76:

    As a teacher, though, I feel jaded right now and wouldn't recommend the field to people.  Though I love teaching kids, and feel strongly that we need good people, the system right now is a mess, the job is super stressful as new demands (not related to helping the kids) are thrown at us daily, and it doesn't look like it will improve any time soon.

    I totally agree with this. 

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  • imageStephNJohn2008:

    In my district it's impossible. My principal got hundreds of applications for my maternity leave spot- not even a full job. I can't speak for middle or high school but elementary is near impossible right now.

    The way to do it is to get "in". You need to sub, take long term sub spots, or be a para in a district for some time so they know you. 

    The story of my life. I've been looking for a ft, maternity leave, anything for 7 years now. I lose maternity leaves to people who have years of experience and a month spot is the only thing they can find. I work in early education now.
  • I hate to be a bi+ch, but it annoys me that people need to figure out what to do with their life and they think teaching is the answer....I feel like so many people think that teaching is their 'fall back' job and it'll be easy to get a job.  Teachers work harder than most people imagine, it's not an 8-3 job, it's 7 days a week and many long hours...You have to please your administrators, students, parents and do a great deal of paperwork...You have to write lesson plans, grade papers, attend meetings, modify assessments (that you also have to write), have patience, sometimes be a counselor.  

    And, when it comes to having and 'in' that's garbage as well, because you're getting a job because of who you know, regardless of being a good teacher or not...meanwhile, good teachers are out of jobs because they don't know someone...it's a real shame. 

    That being said, it's difficult, because, like you, everybody decided they wanted to teach, and positions are hard to come by.  I'm sorry if I'm harsh, but that is the truth of teachers in NJ.   

  • You need to ask yourself why you think it will be a good fit for you?  Is it because it's a 9-3 job with summers off? Then forgot about it, you will never last.  If it is because you enjoy kids, that's part of it but just because you enjoy working with kids does not equal great teacher.  You will need to be able to balance the demands of the students, administrators, union, parents, state, an ever changing curriculum and federal government without loosing your mind.  The work outside of the 9-3 teaching time is endless- lesson plans, meetings, conferences, professional development, paper work, IEPs, etc.  If that is what you want, then go for it.  But be prepared that elementary teacher positions are nonexistent.  If you qualify to teach math, HS science, special ed, or ESL, then you might have better luck finding a position. 
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  • Do I really have to defend my thought of going into teaching?

    I actually have worked in a classroom before, and really liked it. However, I wasn't smart and didn't go to college right away and am just now workin on my bachelors degree.   

    I'm not naive. I know that you don't leave at 3 and I know that's you spend weekends grading papers and preparing lesson plans.

    Christ, if you got all pissy reading that I was thinking of becoming a teacher, I would hate to see what you say to your students when they mention they want to teach as well.  

     And for the record, yes, I would love to teach high school science.  Especially Physics - that was my favorite class in HS and college. 

     

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  • I will say to you in response to your post that I wouldn't go into teaching if you are going to be so put off when people challenge you. Your lesson plans will be reviewed and commented on....your lessons will be ripped apart and critiqued...parents will complain about how you teach....you will be held to a higher standard....you can't even handle people getting annoyed in an online forum without resorting to the " I hope you don't treat your students like that" blah blah blah...you asked a question and got an answer.  And "for the record" liking a subject and even loving a subject does not mean you can actually teach the subject.
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  • imagenmc29:

    Do I really have to defend my thought of going into teaching?

    I actually have worked in a classroom before, and really liked it. However, I wasn't smart and didn't go to college right away and am just now workin on my bachelors degree.   

    I'm not naive. I know that you don't leave at 3 and I know that's you spend weekends grading papers and preparing lesson plans.

    Christ, if you got all pissy reading that I was thinking of becoming a teacher, I would hate to see what you say to your students when they mention they want to teach as well.  

     And for the record, yes, I would love to teach high school science.  Especially Physics - that was my favorite class in HS and college. 

     

    No one got pissy, it's the truth.  This is what it is.  And, if you DO become a teacher, I hope you handle situations like this one (people/parents/students challenging you) better than you did here.   

    Yes, it's super fun to work in a classroom with students.   Teaching is an art...you can have a doctorate and be brilliant and yet not be a good teacher.  

    When you say that teaching 'fits' well, that's misleading.  I love my job, I've always wanted to teach, I have a passion for knowledge and academics, I come early, I stay late and do everything I can to help my students succeed. Teaching fitting my lifestyle?  Didn't even cross my mind...i wuld do tid from 11 PM til 4 AM if I needed to.

  • She didn't say it was her "fall back".  She said she was considering it because she thought it might be a good fit for her, and was curious about it.  Seems like a very good way to start an inquiry about beginning a career, to me.  

    Do you rip your students a new a-hole if they have curiosity and inquiry about things?

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    She didn't say it was her "fall back".  She said she was considering it because she thought it might be a good fit for her, and was curious about it.  Seems like a very good way to start an inquiry about beginning a career, to me.  

    Do you rip your students a new a-hole if they have curiosity and inquiry about things?

    Please. My students are children, not adults trying to figure out what they want to be when they grow up... I'm not going to get offended by some stranger on a message board who has no idea how hard I work...AND all I've accomplished in my career.  Worry about your OWN child's teacher.

    It simply bothers me that some people look at teaching as something the can do because it's there...Alright, so, someone watches Law and Order weekly, they like to argue, that means they can be a lawyer?  It takes training, study, and practice to achieve goals,and if it's your PASSION you won't get turned off because of circumstance or because someone on a message board challenges you.   

    She asked about teaching and if said it was a good fit, didn't give reasons.  She also wants to know if it's easy to get a job...It's not.  She also said with what she 'heard' it didn't seem worth it...so, obviously, it wasn't her life's dream...and if it was NOTHING we said could have deterred her.

  • imageJessiJane777:
    imagemrs.jjinqueens:

    She didn't say it was her "fall back".  She said she was considering it because she thought it might be a good fit for her, and was curious about it.  Seems like a very good way to start an inquiry about beginning a career, to me.  

    Do you rip your students a new a-hole if they have curiosity and inquiry about things?

    Please. My students are children, not adults trying to figure out what they want to be when they grow up... I'm not going to get offended by some stranger on a message board who has no idea how hard I work...AND all I've accomplished in my career.  Worry about your OWN child's teacher.

    It simply bothers me that some people look at teaching as something the can do because it's there...Alright, so, someone watches Law and Order weekly, they like to argue, that means they can be a lawyer?  It takes training, study, and practice to achieve goals,and if it's your PASSION you won't get turned off because of circumstance or because someone on a message board challenges you.   

    She asked about teaching and if said it was a good fit, didn't give reasons.  She also wants to know if it's easy to get a job...It's not.  She also said with what she 'heard' it didn't seem worth it...so, obviously, it wasn't her life's dream...and if it was NOTHING we said could have deterred her.

    The OP is annoyed because you were ready with the sword and threw all your baggage at her. Of course there are people who go into different careers for the wrong reasons. But you created a 4 paragraph post based on a misperception of her. You had no idea about her background. Is that fair? You are an extremely angry and judgmental person. It comes shows in every single one of your posts. The OP is actually doing what people SHOULD do when considering the type of work that there's going to do as their career.
  • My passion is also teaching and I spend my days 1:1 teaching children with severe autism and I have been doing it for 11 years, days, nights, weekends, have suffered serious injuries over it, spend my free time making visual supports and writing programs and etc etc.  I understand passion for one's job and career. When people are interested in it, I am supportive of their interest.  Sounds to me like you have something to prove, a huge chip on your shoulder, and that you actually are offended by strangers on a message board since you went through the trouble to start another post about the whole thing.  Let her inquire about being a teacher.  Lots of people start their careers late in life.
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  • imagenmc29:

    Do I really have to defend my thought of going into teaching?

    I actually have worked in a classroom before, and really liked it. However, I wasn't smart and didn't go to college right away and am just now workin on my bachelors degree.   

    I'm not naive. I know that you don't leave at 3 and I know that's you spend weekends grading papers and preparing lesson plans.

    Christ, if you got all pissy reading that I was thinking of becoming a teacher, I would hate to see what you say to your students when they mention they want to teach as well.  

     And for the record, yes, I would love to teach high school science.  Especially Physics - that was my favorite class in HS and college. 

     

    The only person who seemed pissy was Jessie - the rest of us gave you pretty straightforward answers to your information-seeking question.  Sorry if they weren't the answers you wanted, but that's the reality of the education field right now.

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    imagenmc29:

    Do I really have to defend my thought of going into teaching?

    I actually have worked in a classroom before, and really liked it. However, I wasn't smart and didn't go to college right away and am just now workin on my bachelors degree.   

    I'm not naive. I know that you don't leave at 3 and I know that's you spend weekends grading papers and preparing lesson plans.

    Christ, if you got all pissy reading that I was thinking of becoming a teacher, I would hate to see what you say to your students when they mention they want to teach as well.  

     And for the record, yes, I would love to teach high school science.  Especially Physics - that was my favorite class in HS and college. 

     

    The only person who seemed pissy was Jessie - the rest of us gave you pretty straightforward answers to your information-seeking question.  Sorry if they weren't the answers you wanted, but that's the reality of the education field right now.

    I thought it was pretty obvious that the OP was only nastily responding to JessiJane and that MrsACo. They're the ones challenging her decision to possibly pursue teaching. And not just responding but chastising.
  • No it wasn't obvious where she was directing her " do I really have to" post. She never addressed it to jessijane. As Amanda said....my response was a realistic answer to a career that people outside the profession romanticize.
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  • You are an extremely angry and judgmental person. It comes shows in every single one of your posts. T

    I love that you think I'm angry and judgmental, when you have no idea who or how I am in real life.  I guarantee that there are women on this board, who put up a front and judge (with their little Nest friends) but won't say a word.  I say what I feel (and I'm not one of the Nest bitcches that have a following) and everyone has a problem.  

    I don't know you, so I could give a crap if you're angry, happy or whatever....nor do I give a shitt if you think what you think.  

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