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s/o circumcision
Okay, please don't flame me for this. I might just be completely dense about this whole subject. We don't have kids, and most of my friends that do, have girls so it's never been a topic of conversation. Can those who are against circumcising, please explain why?
I've never really had a pro or con opinion about it. To me, it was always matter of fact - then again, being Jewish might have something to with that.
Re: s/o circumcision
For those who are not Jewish, it's a permanent medical procedure with, like any, the potential for complications. Studies have been done that bring into question prior assumptions about it being cleaner and less susceptible to infection than with the foreskin. And some claim that it affects sensitivity in the area (though some apparently feel the opposite - I'm obviously not in a position to judge either way
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That grossly oversimplifies things - but at the end of the day, it's absolutely central to Judaism and would likely be a given for the baby boy of any practicing Jewish family.
lovelylittleworld
BFP#2 1/12/12 ~ Missed M/C 8w2d
There are lots of opinions on this and it can get heated. Hopefully someone who has done more research than I have will weigh in.
Lisa explained it well and as usual was much more succinct than I will be
Basically, here are the reasons against it that I've heard: (assuming no religious/cultural reasons for it)
1) it's akin to mutilation
2) it should not be the parents choice to do this to their son
3) it has the potential for complications (possibly needing further surgery at a later date)
4) it is unnecessary
5) old assumptions about hygiene are no longer valid
6) it decreases sensitivity
I personally am not in agreement with ALL of the above, but we did choose not to circ DS. It was largely DH's choice and it basically came down to us not feeling that it was necessary.
BFP#1: 01/10, M/C 6w -- BFP#2: 06/10, M/C 5w -- BFP#3: 09/10, DS born June 1, 2011
BFP#4: 07/12, M/C 5w3d -- BFP#5: 12/12, EDD 08/18/13
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I'm certainly not against it. Most of the boys in my family that I know of (ie my younger brothers who's diapers I have changed) are circumcised, but I'm assuming for medical/hygiene reasons since we are not Jewish.
DH is not, but he also wasn't born in a hospital, so it was probably better that way... I would say his parents are against it, but my only explanation would be that they are hippies. I never really asked them about it.
I suspect this works in many couples/families, but I am happy to defer to DH on this particular "boy" thing because I see the pros and cons of each, and either way he would be the primary one explaining the parts to our son when the time came. I know he would choose not to have it done to our theoretical son.
I think Lisa and Sarah covered it well
I've discussed it at length with DH, who is very firmly anti-circumcision, and over time, I've come to agree more with his perspective than I did initially. His biggest issue is: it's not necessary. It's permanently altering the child's body for no reason. The claim that it's more hygienic is a false one, and that's been a very big reason for people to do it over the years. If that is no longer a legitimate factor, why do it?
Yes, there is a potential for issue to arise with an uncircumcised penis that lead to requiring circumcision later, and that's not ideal. But circumcision can *also* lead to complications that require surgery later and/or cause life-long issues. Neither route is a guarantee to be problem-free.
Note: Clearly we're not Jewish.We are not Jewish, so that doesn't factor into our decision. I understand the reasons for and against. I lean towards circumcision, but I wouldn't say it is a strong conviction.
I told my husband that he can make all penis related decisions for this baby until our son is old enough to make them for himself.
BFP#1: 01/10, M/C 6w -- BFP#2: 06/10, M/C 5w -- BFP#3: 09/10, DS born June 1, 2011
BFP#4: 07/12, M/C 5w3d -- BFP#5: 12/12, EDD 08/18/13
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DH and I are against it for all of the reasons that SK listed. IMO, I consider it unnecessary mutilation. I'm thankful DH feels the same because like pp, I will let him make all penis decisions
Although I have very strong feelings about the procedure, I would never judge someone that had their son circumcised, as long as it was a well thought out decision for their family. It upsets me when people do it just because they think they have to, they don't know it's optional, or the doctor pushes it on them and they feel like they don't have a choice (which I've witnessed).
DE IVF #1= 04/11 - BFP