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Looks like Whitney drowned
I am not sure how Tmz is getting all their information before anyone else. Looks like she was drinking the night before then took a Xanax and passed out in the tub. So sad. I am wondering why a known addict would have been giving such a strong drug.
Re: Looks like Whitney drowned
You don't actually think an addict needs a Rx to get xanax, do you?
And not for nothing, but 1 xanax and some drinking does not make one pass out in the tub. That would be a hell of a strong xanax or she'd have had to been beyond drunk (in the middle of the day) for it to have made her pass out. There is way more to this story than a xanax and some booze.
She was apparently partying hard the night before. I wonder how many Xanax she popped before she got in the tub. So sad. TMZ said that her mom had spoken to her 25-30 minutes before she drowned.
I dont see xanax like something like oxycoton. If you have anxiety you need to treat it somehow and its probably better then what she used to do
You shouldnt be mixing it will alcohol, that is for sure, and while not a seasoned drug user I could see how 2 xanax and a few glasses of wine at lunch could make you drowsy enough to fall asleep in a tub
I have feeling it might have been more then a few glasses of wine. So sad, it seemed that she was starting to turn her life around a bit. Although there have been some speculation that she had fallen off the wagon late last year.
I hope Demi Moore is seeing this mess and gets the help she needs.
I think people in the industry are all shocked because she had been working recently and she seemed to be OK. I did see a weird clip of her during the week where she looked like her hair was wet and she wasnt all with it, but she has always been a little off since her Bobby Years.
I still think even a "normal" person could take 2 xanax and a couple glasses of wine and I could see how you could easily drown. I made the mistake of taking 2 and I was out of it for 2 days, no lie. I had no anxiety but I wasn't feeling much
If she was drinking heavily and took a few xanax then yes, she can easily pass out- xanax and alcohol don't mix- they are both sedatives, add in a relaxing bath and yes, passing out is easy. while this is not a surprising end to her life, I am sad for her and her family. Addiction is a very scary disease and while some think it is curable, it is never curable, it is recoverable and it takes work every day and minute to stay in it-
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Yes I saw that she kinda walked into an interview with Clive, Monica and Brandy. Her hair was oddly wet in the back, like she was sweating or something. A little odd.
"I still think even a "normal" person could take 2 xanax and a couple glasses of wine and I could see how you could easily drown. I made the mistake of taking 2 and I was out of it for 2 days, no lie."
Yes, a normal person would end up with that affect. But a seasoned drug user (a self-confessed crackhead) does not take 1 or 2 xanax or have a few glasses of alcohol. That's all I'm saying. I just don't believe this is a case of whoops, I took 2 pills and had a glass of wine and accidentally drowned myself. I don't mean to sound like a junkie but if you've built up a tolerance to drugs or alcohol of any kind (as Whitney clearly had) and you have a documented addiction, it takes a lot more than that to make you pass out. A LOT.
It's all very sad. I'm just not surprised at all. I feel terrible for her daughter and hopefully she will learn from her mother's (and father's) mistakes and have a better life than either of them could. It's a shame when you ruin other people's lives so recklessly. Especially when your a parent.
well, that's not necessarily true. if you're CURRENTLY taking the drugs then you build up a tolerance. if everything people are saying is true and she was "clean" (ish) then taking 2 xanax can actually kick your a$$. that's why a lot of addicts who die, die from going into rehab, detoxing, then going back for that "one last try". they take the same amount and it kills them.
that said, i think she probably OD'd in the bathtub. not that i really care, but that's just my guess.
Touche. Assuming she was clean, and had been for a while I agree that a few xanax and some booze could do it. Especially if you pass out in the tub. I'm just not so sure she was clean. And it just bother's me that, although I understand she was an icon for a long time, in the end she was just like any other drug addict that couldn't get their act together. And yet the world will morn like she was singing the National Anthem yesterday & bopping to Let's Hear for the Boy. Hopefully, a lesson will be learned that fame, beauty and money don't always buy you happiness. And I truly hope her daughter can find the strength she needs to move forward without falling into the same pattern.
Please don't speculate on the cause of this woman's death or the events leading up to it.it doesnt matter. The woman was an addict incapable of overcoming what had plagued her for years. People can speculate for the next 100 years on how she died and never really know with absolute certainty. While I'm all for dissing on superficial things, this is literally life and death.
"And it just bother's me that, although I understand she was an icon for a long time, in the end she was just like any other drug addict that couldn't get their act together."
I don't know why I even bother asking, but why does it bother you that people mourn a fallen star who was very sick??
I will remember the National Anthem and all her great music that I loved listening to growing up in the 80's. I don't give a shiittt that Charlie Brown was interrupted nor do I care to learn about drugs from the Nest. She was a talented musician and not many have a voice like she did. I am looking forward to the Grammys tonight.
she was a really good singer. she wasn't a Peace Prize recipient, she didn't change the world. she sang. this was not worthy of a, "mommy, who was the woman they're talking about?" talk with my 6 year old.
Because when a pop star or other "important" celebrity dies of drug addiction it's a tragedy and a disease and society stops and openly mourns their talent. When a rock/alternative star or other B list celebrity dies of drug addiction everyone saw it coming, isn't shocked, feels sorry for the people in their families but loves to point out that they were just a junkie that brought other people down with them.
This woman has spent most of her daughters life being a crackhead. I don't care how many pop songs she sang, that's not a good person. Demon's are demons no matter who loves you or how many fans you have. Sure, we all have our favorite celebrities and are touched by different people in different ways but in the end it's still just another person who lost their life to disease, just like thousands others do and forever damage their family.
I agree with you.
I agree with you.
liz, i know this wasn't directed at me but FTR, it totally doesn't bother me that people are really upset about WH dying. i think people being all indignant when OTHER people don't mourn is total BS, and i think ABC interrupting children's programming with the warning of "you might not want your kids to hear this but..." is redic.
if it's not appropriate for kids to hear, don't announce it during a kids' show. if they had broken into sesame street to announce the death of another singer who hasn't been relevant since the mid-90's, save for a reality show, i'd think that was messed up, too.
i don't find her death as sad as the fact that SO MUCH potential died years ago, as is the fact that a daughter has lost her mother.
TMZ pays MAJOR $$$$$$.
Tara...Oh, believe me, I get it. Sorry, but no, good people don't repeatedly disappoint their loved ones. Yes, it's a disease. But at a certain point in time YOU are responsible for your actions and how they affect the people around you. If you've ever been even remotely involved in a situation like that then you know how heartbreaking it is to watch someone you love loose their battle day after day, time after time and not accept the help you offer or the love you have for them. SO excuse me that I'm not sad that a pop star died. I'm sad a little girl lost her mom and someone lost their daughter. But honestly, now maybe Bobbie Kristina can move on with her life.
I am in no means saying that you or others should be sad about the death of a pop star--I don't care about that. I am not a star-struck person AT ALL. My issue with you (and this is not even specific to this subject) is that you seem to have no empathy for people unless there's something you can get out of it (i.e. your "I can't believe a person could do that to a child or unless it involves Daniel Radcliffe or someone like that; in those cases I feel that you want every one to see how you're such a good guy, caring about kids so much or how great a mother you are).
I just don't understand how there's not an ounce of you that understands how it IS sad to lose a person, any person, to something like this--and not just WH. And I don't truthfully believe that you care about her kid either. She's basically just a prop for you to try to show how great a person you are for caring about the f*cked up mother's kid.
If I recall correctly you are/were a big Nirvana fan? I'm curious what your response was when Kurt Cobain died? Were you sad that he died? Did you think he was a bad person? Did you mourn his death? I'm not a Whitney Houston fan and I can't say I'm especially affected by her death, but I can't imagine being flabbergasted that other people were sad..... and that's the impression I get from you, that you can't understand how others might be saddened by her death. And from the post above you seem to reference that you have some personal experience with loved ones and addiction. With that, I'm surprised you're not more understanding to the spectrum of responses to the disease of addiction. There's a massive range of emotional responses, people might not feel as you feel (that disappointing your loved ones by continuing to use makes you a bad person), it doesn't mean their response is wrong.
Looks like that is what happened. They said there wasnt enough water in her lungs, to drown. She mix alcohol and prescription drugs.