Did you still run errands when your kid was in their temper tantrum stage?

LaVitaBella

My daughter is in a challenging phase.  She won't get in a carseat, stroller, shopping cart, etc. She's not yet two and I cannot let her push the cart or wander around the mall.  I've tried letting her walk and carry a shopping basket or reusable bag.  

 

Anyway....the point isn't that-I'm trying different strategies.  But she gets pretty out of control in public places when we aren't doing what she wants to do.  Biting, laying on the floor, knocking over things.  Regardless of her behavior, I still need to get things done.  Am I the only fool who still brings my kid to Shop Rite like this?  I don't see any other child acting the way mine does.  Is everyone going without their kids at 10 pm?   

Im just torn.  Do we stay in like hostages or do I bring her out?  I look like the WORST parent ever in the grocery store.  We stayed in for two whole days to work on following directions at home.  I can't do that every day. 

TSD

I never stopped doing what I had to do. But I also force him into the cart, the high chair, etc. I never let him out of any of these things. So, he doesn't really know any other way. He doesn't want to go in the cart and I have a much harder time when Bryan is with us because when they're alone B doesn't make him sit in the cart. With me, he doesn't really pull that shiit as much because he knows I don't care if he screams and cries.

I don't know. I wouldn't stop going because how is she going to learn and how are you going to get anything done. Sometimes he freaks out but whatever. I still get my shiit done. I've been giving him an itinerary of our day hour by hour every day of his life so he knows what's coming next. I definitely find that's helpful with him. Then he's mentally prepared. I even say, "We're going to go to ballet, then the supermarket, you're going to sit in the cart, then we're going to have lunch, then take a snooze, then maybe we'll take a walk to see daddy at the lamp store....(so on and so forth) and I just keep dropping and adding as they happen).

monica92603

Honestly, I try to avoid bringing her out unless it's a quick trip.  We did a quick trip to wawa Sunday morning and I gave her a loaf of bread to carry to keep her preoccupied.  We were in and out in under 5 minutes.  I took her to the grocery store about 2 weeks ago and all the shopping carts were soaking wet so I just took a basket and let her walk.  She was about to start running amuck when I decided that I didn't need to hunt for the frozen peppers I wanted and just got her out.  It was going to get bad quickly.  How she was good while in line I still don't know.  LOL. 
I'm in a different situation though...Julia stays at home w/ you right?  I take advantage of times when Grace is in school or run to the food store next to where I work.  I also have my groceries delivered and order a bunch of stuff online.  I do some strategic planning to make sure I don't have to take her out.  It's probably wrong b/c she should learn how to properly behave in public but I'm not sure if 18 months is the time to start teaching if she'll even get it.  I'd rather save myself the stress and avoid it.  I also have no problem staying home when possible so days I'm off we're typically in the house or outside playing if the weather is nice.

debfife

I can't stay in, not even for a day. So I just deal with it and keep reinforcing who is in charge. It's just a phase.

Kari78

If I want to get anything done during the week they have to come with me so, yes I still take her out 2 YO tantrums and all.  I was just at the grocery store yesterday and she was screaming bloody murder because I wanted her to sit in the big part of the cart, the baby now sits in front.  I just continued on and let her scream....people stared, but what they heck else could I do?  I live a good 20 minutes from the closest grocery store so there was no way I was turning around without accomplishing my shopping.  I eventually calmed her down with the promise of a bagel if she stopped crying and behaved.  Sometimes she cries or yells or runs around if I let go of her hand for a second, but I don't know what else I can do.

MrsV092207

TSD:

I never stopped doing what I had to do. But I also force him into the cart, the high chair, etc. I never let him out of any of these things. So, he doesn't really know any other way. He doesn't want to go in the cart and I have a much harder time when Bryan is with us because when they're alone B doesn't make him sit in the cart. With me, he doesn't really pull that shiit as much because he knows I don't care if he screams and cries.

I don't know. I wouldn't stop going because how is she going to learn and how are you going to get anything done. Sometimes he freaks out but whatever. I still get my shiit done. I've been giving him an itinerary of our day hour by hour every day of his life so he knows what's coming next. I definitely find that's helpful with him. Then he's mentally prepared. I even say, "We're going to go to ballet, then the supermarket, you're going to sit in the cart, then we're going to have lunch, then take a snooze, then maybe we'll take a walk to see daddy at the lamp store....(so on and so forth) and I just keep dropping and adding as they happen).

Ditto all of this.   

But yes, I still do what I need to do.  I eventually stopped caring about the crazy looks we get sometimes lol.. she can throw a serious tantrum.  It can be embarrassing but if it's something that I need to do I just push through it. 

erosa

Yes, I did everything normally & I would totally ignore him.  I remember tying him into his stroller tight as helll & him trying to squirm out of it, screaming,  & not being able to.  The behavior stopped when he realized I wasn't phased by it.  When he wouldn't get in the car seat & would put him him forcefully, making sure not to hurt him but showing him that he wasn't stronger than me.  it took a little while, but like I said, the behavior stopped... you CANNOT feed into this.  The only time I really left someplace was if we were in a restaurant so we wouldn't disturb anyone(which we didn't really do anyway when he was going thru this). 

erosa

Oh, and now he hates sitting in the front part of the shopping cart & he's always trying to stand up.  I do not let him walk around the supermarket, no matter what.... I'm there for a reason, not to chase him around & take things out of his hand.  I constantly pull his feet from under the handle bar.  He gives me a hard time for a little while, but he's just testing me & trying to see how long it will take for me to give in.  I never do...  once I do, then I know its over for me!

oct11bride03

I agree with the ladies who said they have to go out so they deal.

Like the experts say, most of it is about getting attention, even negative attention. If you ignore it and show you aren't phased by it then eventually they'll get the hint and stop doing it. 

I've been trying to remember this right now. K is back to the whole "me do" phase that I thought we'd left behind a few months ago. She throws tantrums if I do something she wanted to do. I've been ignoring her and letting her do the whole throw herself on the floor or cry on the couch. After a few minutes of me going about my business she comes over to me as if nothing happened. 

atwood345

MrsV092207:

TSD:

I never stopped doing what I had to do. But I also force him into the cart, the high chair, etc. I never let him out of any of these things. So, he doesn't really know any other way. He doesn't want to go in the cart and I have a much harder time when Bryan is with us because when they're alone B doesn't make him sit in the cart. With me, he doesn't really pull that shiit as much because he knows I don't care if he screams and cries.

I don't know. I wouldn't stop going because how is she going to learn and how are you going to get anything done. Sometimes he freaks out but whatever. I still get my shiit done. I've been giving him an itinerary of our day hour by hour every day of his life so he knows what's coming next. I definitely find that's helpful with him. Then he's mentally prepared. I even say, "We're going to go to ballet, then the supermarket, you're going to sit in the cart, then we're going to have lunch, then take a snooze, then maybe we'll take a walk to see daddy at the lamp store....(so on and so forth) and I just keep dropping and adding as they happen).

Ditto all of this.   

But yes, I still do what I need to do.  I eventually stopped caring about the crazy looks we get sometimes lol.. she can throw a serious tantrum.  It can be embarrassing but if it's something that I need to do I just push through it. 

Same here. Letting her try to walk on her own will make it worse b/c she gets that taste if freedom and will ve even less willing to stay in the cart. It's a crappy phase but I worked through it. 

TSD

I also put him in the cart outside of the store so if he kicks and screams it doesn't seem as loud as in the store. He's a runner so I refuse to even try to let him walk. I also have a small window of time and I can't take up much of it with his antics. I usually have his snack trap with cereal with me and he likes to hold that and eat. Or those pop magic cracker things. he ate half a bag the last shopping trip. I don't look at it as a bribe, it's just when he gets his snack.

biochemgirl

We both work FT so unfortunately running errands is a typical weekend for us and for scarlett. 

KandA2006

I took ds to the grocery store on sunday.. had to go and dh was sick.  So off we went... I knew by around minute 45... he would lose it on me.. and he did.  But I just kept going.  What helped me, is letting him help me.. by putting the things in the cart as I picked them off the shelf.  He is in the "i want to help' stage right now..  and I saved the snack as long as I could.. and that bought me the last 10 minutes! lol

I've noticed... there are a lot of other parents in teh same boat as me.. and I just don't care anymore what others think! You do what you have to do!

I do find that the more organized I am.. the easier it is... so I had a list. 

wed2506

Like Tara, I always had her in a stroller, cart, something so age knows no different . We have had moments and I just reinforced that it was unacceptable behavior. We have a counting system. If I get to three the consequences are severe....happened only once. Guess it works...lol

junebug1

My daughter was 3.5 the first time I brought her to the grocery store with me and it was a treat for her.  But, I don't ever HAVE to bring her.  I do my grocery shopping at 7:00 am on sunday.  my children are home with my husband and I'm home in an hour. 

If it's education you're trying to work on, perhaps bringing her somewhere you don't have to be is better for the practice.  that way, you can leave as soon as there's an issue...

veggiechick120

i take her, because i have to. its frustrating, and i hate it. but because of my work schedule and mh's i have toys

i try and bribe her with a snack or give her my phone to play with or ask her to help me pick stuff off the shelves. some days it works, others it doesnt. 

BeachBaby07

No matter what the situation I was always in control. I dont take orders from my kids and they know I mean what I say. It wasnt an option to not sit in the cart or do anything they are needing to do. Once you start to give in because they threw a major fit, it shows them that that is what it takes to get their way. My daughter tried to throw a fit in the store and I let her scream on the floor of The LOFT, I just stepped over her and said, "oh look all the ladies are watching you be a little baby on the floor, arent you silly". I addressed the women next to me and said "do you see my little girl being so silly screeching like that? She is very loud huh?" The women was cracking up and it was pissing my daughter off that I wouldnt let her get a rise from me and that people were looking at her and laughing. I was getting ready to try stuff on so I said, you coming or are you staying here alone, cause I am going in there--pointed to the door and started to walk. She got herself up and chased me in there. 

If you show other people you are in control, and let the kid be nuts then at least people dont judge your parenting because you are loosing your cool. Its doesnt change what's happening but instead of the ladies talking trash about me when I left, they all gave me thumbs up because she was waiting to check out, nicely holding my hand 

MidnightMare

I probably have the very unpopular opinion, but as a person who doesn't have kids and doesn't want them, I can say I greatly don't appreciate hearing peoples kids SCREAM at the top of their lungs for an hour (I understand there is a difference between screaming and crying cause they don't get their way). I understand you have things you need, but if your kid is having a fit, get what you need and try to get it done in a timely fashion. I cant stand being in an aisle and trying to select the products I need and some kid in the same (or even 4 aisles over) is screaming so loud I cant see straight, while mom takes 5 mins selecting her pasta for the week. I do make exceptions for commisarys since often mothers (and sometimes fathers) are left alone to parent singly for long periods of time due to deployments or long training missions and often have no family or sometimes friends around to help.


When I was a kid while my mother realized that any attention was feeding it, also felt others shouldn't suffer from her choice to be a parent. She always tried to plan to shop when my dad was home or would have him pick me up from daycare so she could shop. If she had to take me to the store and I threw a tempur tantrum, if she was short on time she would get what she needed and go. I didnt see it as winning cause she rushed,, she just didnt show it as rushing. She was efficient, only got the things we needed, and we left. If she had time, or we were out to eat, she would take me out side, put me in the car, and sit in the front seat reading a book until I cried it out. Once I was finished, she would take me in the store and try again (I would eventually fall asleep from crying so it always eventually got done), and the process repeated until the shopping trip was a success.  This continued until I was old enough to behave. I quickly learned that I was not winning since I was put in the quiet car and never given attention until I was done, and I wasn't getting out of it since we always went back in. It took my mom time on the days she did it, but it only took a few tried for me to figure it out. I was never bribed.

~LisaD~

MidnightMare:

I probably have the very unpopular opinion, but as a person who doesn't have kids and doesn't want them, I can say I greatly don't appreciate hearing peoples kids SCREAM at the top of their lungs for an hour (I understand there is a difference between screaming and crying cause they don't get their way). I understand you have things you need, but if your kid is having a fit, get what you need and try to get it done in a timely fashion. I cant stand being in an aisle and trying to select the products I need and some kid in the same (or even 4 aisles over) is screaming so loud I cant see straight, while mom takes 5 mins selecting her pasta for the week. I do make exceptions for commisarys since often mothers (and sometimes fathers) are left alone to parent singly for long periods of time due to deployments or long training missions and often have no family or sometimes friends around to help.


When I was a kid while my mother realized that any attention was feeding it, also felt others shouldn't suffer from her choice to be a parent. She always tried to plan to shop when my dad was home or would have him pick me up from daycare so she could shop. If she had to take me to the store and I threw a tempur tantrum, if she was short on time she would get what she needed and go. I didnt see it as winning cause she rushed,, she just didnt show it as rushing. She was efficient, only got the things we needed, and we left. If she had time, or we were out to eat, she would take me out side, put me in the car, and sit in the front seat reading a book until I cried it out. Once I was finished, she would take me in the store and try again (I would eventually fall asleep from crying so it always eventually got done), and the process repeated until the shopping trip was a success.  This continued until I was old enough to behave. I quickly learned that I was not winning since I was put in the quiet car and never given attention until I was done, and I wasn't getting out of it since we always went back in. It took my mom time on the days she did it, but it only took a few tried for me to figure it out. I was never bribed.

LMAO. 

TSD

MidnightMare:

I probably have the very unpopular opinion, but as a person who doesn't have kids and doesn't want them, I can say I greatly don't appreciate hearing peoples kids SCREAM at the top of their lungs for an hour (I understand there is a difference between screaming and crying cause they don't get their way). I understand you have things you need, but if your kid is having a fit, get what you need and try to get it done in a timely fashion. I cant stand being in an aisle and trying to select the products I need and some kid in the same (or even 4 aisles over) is screaming so loud I cant see straight, while mom takes 5 mins selecting her pasta for the week. I do make exceptions for commisarys since often mothers (and sometimes fathers) are left alone to parent singly for long periods of time due to deployments or long training missions and often have no family or sometimes friends around to help.


When I was a kid while my mother realized that any attention was feeding it, also felt others shouldn't suffer from her choice to be a parent. She always tried to plan to shop when my dad was home or would have him pick me up from daycare so she could shop. If she had to take me to the store and I threw a tempur tantrum, if she was short on time she would get what she needed and go. I didnt see it as winning cause she rushed,, she just didnt show it as rushing. She was efficient, only got the things we needed, and we left. If she had time, or we were out to eat, she would take me out side, put me in the car, and sit in the front seat reading a book until I cried it out. Once I was finished, she would take me in the store and try again (I would eventually fall asleep from crying so it always eventually got done), and the process repeated until the shopping trip was a success.  This continued until I was old enough to behave. I quickly learned that I was not winning since I was put in the quiet car and never given attention until I was done, and I wasn't getting out of it since we always went back in. It took my mom time on the days she did it, but it only took a few tried for me to figure it out. I was never bribed.

This isn't just unpopular, it's dumb. We all have shiit to do and we're all busy. I don't really care if my screaming child offends your delicate ears. I'm not dropping my stuff in a store to appease other people. Good luck with all that. If you can't handle it, go find a log cabin somewhere that had Peapod delivery. 

Kari78

MidnightMare:

I probably have the very unpopular opinion, but as a person who doesn't have kids and doesn't want them, I can say I greatly don't appreciate hearing peoples kids SCREAM at the top of their lungs for an hour (I understand there is a difference between screaming and crying cause they don't get their way). I understand you have things you need, but if your kid is having a fit, get what you need and try to get it done in a timely fashion. I cant stand being in an aisle and trying to select the products I need and some kid in the same (or even 4 aisles over) is screaming so loud I cant see straight, while mom takes 5 mins selecting her pasta for the week. I do make exceptions for commisarys since often mothers (and sometimes fathers) are left alone to parent singly for long periods of time due to deployments or long training missions and often have no family or sometimes friends around to help.


When I was a kid while my mother realized that any attention was feeding it, also felt others shouldn't suffer from her choice to be a parent. She always tried to plan to shop when my dad was home or would have him pick me up from daycare so she could shop. If she had to take me to the store and I threw a tempur tantrum, if she was short on time she would get what she needed and go. I didnt see it as winning cause she rushed,, she just didnt show it as rushing. She was efficient, only got the things we needed, and we left. If she had time, or we were out to eat, she would take me out side, put me in the car, and sit in the front seat reading a book until I cried it out. Once I was finished, she would take me in the store and try again (I would eventually fall asleep from crying so it always eventually got done), and the process repeated until the shopping trip was a success.  This continued until I was old enough to behave. I quickly learned that I was not winning since I was put in the quiet car and never given attention until I was done, and I wasn't getting out of it since we always went back in. It took my mom time on the days she did it, but it only took a few tried for me to figure it out. I was never bribed.

 I wish I had this kind of time to put my kidS in and out of the car jntil they decide to give up & behave.

Kari78

MidnightMare:

I probably have the very unpopular opinion, but as a person who doesn't have kids and doesn't want them, I can say I greatly don't appreciate hearing peoples kids SCREAM at the top of their lungs for an hour (I understand there is a difference between screaming and crying cause they don't get their way). I understand you have things you need, but if your kid is having a fit, get what you need and try to get it done in a timely fashion. I cant stand being in an aisle and trying to select the products I need and some kid in the same (or even 4 aisles over) is screaming so loud I cant see straight, while mom takes 5 mins selecting her pasta for the week. I do make exceptions for commisarys since often mothers (and sometimes fathers) are left alone to parent singly for long periods of time due to deployments or long training missions and often have no family or sometimes friends around to help.


When I was a kid while my mother realized that any attention was feeding it, also felt others shouldn't suffer from her choice to be a parent. She always tried to plan to shop when my dad was home or would have him pick me up from daycare so she could shop. If she had to take me to the store and I threw a tempur tantrum, if she was short on time she would get what she needed and go. I didnt see it as winning cause she rushed,, she just didnt show it as rushing. She was efficient, only got the things we needed, and we left. If she had time, or we were out to eat, she would take me out side, put me in the car, and sit in the front seat reading a book until I cried it out. Once I was finished, she would take me in the store and try again (I would eventually fall asleep from crying so it always eventually got done), and the process repeated until the shopping trip was a success.  This continued until I was old enough to behave. I quickly learned that I was not winning since I was put in the quiet car and never given attention until I was done, and I wasn't getting out of it since we always went back in. It took my mom time on the days she did it, but it only took a few tried for me to figure it out. I was never bribed.

 I wish I had this kind of time to put my kidS in and out of the car jntil they decide to give up & behave.  Additionally, I have never heard of a mom in that position taking her sweet azz time, we're all hurrying to get the hell out of there because we don't want to hear the screaming or deal with the dirty looks anymore.

erosa

MidnightMare:

I probably have the very unpopular opinion, but as a person who doesn't have kids and doesn't want them, I can say I greatly don't appreciate hearing peoples kids SCREAM at the top of their lungs for an hour (I understand there is a difference between screaming and crying cause they don't get their way). I understand you have things you need, but if your kid is having a fit, get what you need and try to get it done in a timely fashion. I cant stand being in an aisle and trying to select the products I need and some kid in the same (or even 4 aisles over) is screaming so loud I cant see straight, while mom takes 5 mins selecting her pasta for the week. I do make exceptions for commisarys since often mothers (and sometimes fathers) are left alone to parent singly for long periods of time due to deployments or long training missions and often have no family or sometimes friends around to help.


When I was a kid while my mother realized that any attention was feeding it, also felt others shouldn't suffer from her choice to be a parent. She always tried to plan to shop when my dad was home or would have him pick me up from daycare so she could shop. If she had to take me to the store and I threw a tempur tantrum, if she was short on time she would get what she needed and go. I didnt see it as winning cause she rushed,, she just didnt show it as rushing. She was efficient, only got the things we needed, and we left. If she had time, or we were out to eat, she would take me out side, put me in the car, and sit in the front seat reading a book until I cried it out. Once I was finished, she would take me in the store and try again (I would eventually fall asleep from crying so it always eventually got done), and the process repeated until the shopping trip was a success.  This continued until I was old enough to behave. I quickly learned that I was not winning since I was put in the quiet car and never given attention until I was done, and I wasn't getting out of it since we always went back in. It took my mom time on the days she did it, but it only took a few tried for me to figure it out. I was never bribed.

No one is saying we are taking our sweet time on purpose, we're saying that we're going about our business.  I also don't care if I'm in public & you don't Ike my kids screaming.  If you don't like hearing noise out in public then wear earplugs or don't go out.  I do respect people in a restaurant or at the movies because I know they're going out for peace and quiet.

AND SINCE YOU ARE NOT A PARENT AND DON'T EVER WANT TO BE, YOU DON'T KNOW AND WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT WE GO THROUGH SO YOUR OPINION AND "ADVICE" ABOUT WHAT YOUR MOTHER DID TO YOU REALLY DOESN'T MATTER TO ANYONE HERE. 

oct11bride03

TSD:

MidnightMare:

I probably have the very unpopular opinion, but as a person who doesn't have kids and doesn't want them, I can say I greatly don't appreciate hearing peoples kids SCREAM at the top of their lungs for an hour (I understand there is a difference between screaming and crying cause they don't get their way). I understand you have things you need, but if your kid is having a fit, get what you need and try to get it done in a timely fashion. I cant stand being in an aisle and trying to select the products I need and some kid in the same (or even 4 aisles over) is screaming so loud I cant see straight, while mom takes 5 mins selecting her pasta for the week. I do make exceptions for commisarys since often mothers (and sometimes fathers) are left alone to parent singly for long periods of time due to deployments or long training missions and often have no family or sometimes friends around to help.


When I was a kid while my mother realized that any attention was feeding it, also felt others shouldn't suffer from her choice to be a parent. She always tried to plan to shop when my dad was home or would have him pick me up from daycare so she could shop. If she had to take me to the store and I threw a tempur tantrum, if she was short on time she would get what she needed and go. I didnt see it as winning cause she rushed,, she just didnt show it as rushing. She was efficient, only got the things we needed, and we left. If she had time, or we were out to eat, she would take me out side, put me in the car, and sit in the front seat reading a book until I cried it out. Once I was finished, she would take me in the store and try again (I would eventually fall asleep from crying so it always eventually got done), and the process repeated until the shopping trip was a success.  This continued until I was old enough to behave. I quickly learned that I was not winning since I was put in the quiet car and never given attention until I was done, and I wasn't getting out of it since we always went back in. It took my mom time on the days she did it, but it only took a few tried for me to figure it out. I was never bribed.

This isn't just unpopular, it's dumb. We all have shiit to do and we're all busy. I don't really care if my screaming child offends your delicate ears. I'm not dropping my stuff in a store to appease other people. Good luck with all that. If you can't handle it, go find a log cabin somewhere that had Peapod delivery. 

What I want to know is how people like MidnightMare expect children to learn how to behave in public if they aren't allowed out with their parents. If you keep your kids home and never expose them to eating out in a restaurant, going to the store, etc. you are missing valuable opportunities to teach them the proper way to behave in public.

No one likes hearing kids cry, but I'm not keeping my daughter home just because it might offend someone. She has to learn how to behave in public and it's my job as her mother to teach her.

wed2506

erosa:

AND SINCE YOU ARE NOT A PARENT AND DON'T EVER WANT TO BE, YOU DON'T KNOW AND WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT WE GO THROUGH SO YOUR OPINION AND "ADVICE" ABOUT WHAT YOUR MOTHER DID TO YOU REALLY DOESN'T MATTER TO ANYONE HERE. 

erosa

oct11bride03:

TSD:

MidnightMare:

I probably have the very unpopular opinion, but as a person who doesn't have kids and doesn't want them, I can say I greatly don't appreciate hearing peoples kids SCREAM at the top of their lungs for an hour (I understand there is a difference between screaming and crying cause they don't get their way). I understand you have things you need, but if your kid is having a fit, get what you need and try to get it done in a timely fashion. I cant stand being in an aisle and trying to select the products I need and some kid in the same (or even 4 aisles over) is screaming so loud I cant see straight, while mom takes 5 mins selecting her pasta for the week. I do make exceptions for commisarys since often mothers (and sometimes fathers) are left alone to parent singly for long periods of time due to deployments or long training missions and often have no family or sometimes friends around to help.


When I was a kid while my mother realized that any attention was feeding it, also felt others shouldn't suffer from her choice to be a parent. She always tried to plan to shop when my dad was home or would have him pick me up from daycare so she could shop. If she had to take me to the store and I threw a tempur tantrum, if she was short on time she would get what she needed and go. I didnt see it as winning cause she rushed,, she just didnt show it as rushing. She was efficient, only got the things we needed, and we left. If she had time, or we were out to eat, she would take me out side, put me in the car, and sit in the front seat reading a book until I cried it out. Once I was finished, she would take me in the store and try again (I would eventually fall asleep from crying so it always eventually got done), and the process repeated until the shopping trip was a success.  This continued until I was old enough to behave. I quickly learned that I was not winning since I was put in the quiet car and never given attention until I was done, and I wasn't getting out of it since we always went back in. It took my mom time on the days she did it, but it only took a few tried for me to figure it out. I was never bribed.

This isn't just unpopular, it's dumb. We all have shiit to do and we're all busy. I don't really care if my screaming child offends your delicate ears. I'm not dropping my stuff in a store to appease other people. Good luck with all that. If you can't handle it, go find a log cabin somewhere that had Peapod delivery. 

What I want to know is how people like MidnightMare expect children to learn how to behave in public if they aren't allowed out with their parents. If you keep your kids home and never expose them to eating out in a restaurant, going to the store, etc. you are missing valuable opportunities to teach them the proper way to behave in public.

No one likes hearing kids cry, but I'm not keeping my daughter home just because it might offend someone. She has to learn how to behave in public and it's my job as her mother to teach her.

Because people who have no children always have the best advice as to how raise them.

MsHan

I need to get stuff done & they have to learn.  If someone wants to shoot me a dirty look- be happy you can go home without my kid, I only do this for hahas