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? about collar vs harness

hi all,

i lurk a little bit on this board, and have been learning a lot.  we're about to bring home an american staffie/hound mix.  he's about 6 months old and has been in foster for 2 months.  he's pretty well trained--fully housebroken, and knows sit, stay, and shake, plus he's got excellent focus on his leader.

his leash manners could use a little work.  okay, a lot of work....  so, i'm wondering if you guys could weigh in about whether to use a harness or a collar, and any specific types of harnesses or collars you'd suggest.

TIA! 

2012 Races:
Emerald Nuts Midnight Run (4m) 1/1/12
Coogan's Salsa, Blues, and Shamrocks Run (5k) 3/4/12
Colon Cancer Challenge (15k) 4/1/12
Purple Stride NYC (5k) 4/21/12
Run to Combat Autism (5k) 4/29/12
RnR Philadelphia (Half Marathon) 9/16/12

Re: ? about collar vs harness

  • my suggestion is a gentle leader. regular collars and especially harnesses dogs can pull against with all their body weight. and with a big dog like your new pup its going to make a lot of work for you and very little consequence for him. the gentle leader wears like a horse halter around the bridge of the nose. when you pull back in makes him turn his head so it takes a lot less strength to change his action. a lot of dogs don't like it at first but they cam get used to it and they work well
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    DD born 1.25.15

  • I use an Easy Walk harness with my fosters to encourage good leash habits.  It is a no-pull harness that clips at the dog's chest.  I've had great success with it.  I prefer this over the Gentle Leader for two reasons: 1. Many dogs don't like the GL and I want dogs to associate walks with good things.  2. The GL kind of looks like a muzzle to people who don't know what they are and I have (and foster) pit bull type dogs.  I don't want any more negativity associated with them if I can help it.

    For collars, some people on here use prong collars with great success.  You'll need to have some training in using them though and ensuring they fit properly.  I don't use one so I'm no help there.  

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  • imageMryan209:

    I use an Easy Walk harness with my fosters to encourage good leash habits.  It is a no-pull harness that clips at the dog's chest.  I've had great success with it.  I prefer this over the Gentle Leader for two reasons: 1. Many dogs don't like the GL and I want dogs to associate walks with good things.  2. The GL kind of looks like a muzzle to people who don't know what they are and I have (and foster) pit bull type dogs.  I don't want any more negativity associated with them if I can help it.

    For collars, some people on here use prong collars with great success.  You'll need to have some training in using them though and ensuring they fit properly.  I don't use one so I'm no help there.  

    We currently use a regular harness and are thinking of switching to the easy walk to get 100% there on the loose leash walking. 

    We prefer a harness in comparison to a collar in because it doesn't choke the dog when he or she pulls, and the dog is less likely to escape it while on a walk.  However, I from what I understand, you can get both of those benefits from an easy walk harness and help in the the loose leash training process since it forces the dog to the side when he or she tugs towards something, instead of letting the dog tug directly towards the object of his or her interest. 

    image. "Wanna go for a run, Momma?"
  • imageMryan209:

    I use an Easy Walk harness with my fosters to encourage good leash habits.  It is a no-pull harness that clips at the dog's chest.  I've had great success with it.  I prefer this over the Gentle Leader for two reasons: 1. Many dogs don't like the GL and I want dogs to associate walks with good things.  2. The GL kind of looks like a muzzle to people who don't know what they are and I have (and foster) pit bull type dogs.  I don't want any more negativity associated with them if I can help it.

    Ditto all of this.

    If you really want to use a collar, though, I recommend a martingale collar. It's similar to a choke collar, but due its construction, if it's fitted properly, it can't harm your dog's neck, but still gives a correction. 

  • imageMryan209:

    2. The GL kind of looks like a muzzle to people who don't know what they are and I have (and foster) pit bull type dogs.  I don't want any more negativity associated with them if I can help it.

    i am definitely concerned with this stigma, too.  (as a matter of fact, before i knew what they were, i was asking my husband if they were like "muzzle lite")

    also, being that staffies pretty much ARE pitties, i don't need anybody giving the side-eye to my sweet boy! 

    2012 Races:
    Emerald Nuts Midnight Run (4m) 1/1/12
    Coogan's Salsa, Blues, and Shamrocks Run (5k) 3/4/12
    Colon Cancer Challenge (15k) 4/1/12
    Purple Stride NYC (5k) 4/21/12
    Run to Combat Autism (5k) 4/29/12
    RnR Philadelphia (Half Marathon) 9/16/12
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    2012 Races:
    Emerald Nuts Midnight Run (4m) 1/1/12
    Coogan's Salsa, Blues, and Shamrocks Run (5k) 3/4/12
    Colon Cancer Challenge (15k) 4/1/12
    Purple Stride NYC (5k) 4/21/12
    Run to Combat Autism (5k) 4/29/12
    RnR Philadelphia (Half Marathon) 9/16/12
  • We purchased this harness from a local pet store and it has worked great for our husky mix who loves to pull:

    http://www.wiggleswagswhiskers.com/newsite/freedom-no-pull-harness.htm

  • imageMryan209:

    I use an Easy Walk harness with my fosters to encourage good leash habits.  It is a no-pull harness that clips at the dog's chest.  I've had great success with it.  I prefer this over the Gentle Leader for two reasons: 1. Many dogs don't like the GL and I want dogs to associate walks with good things.  2. The GL kind of looks like a muzzle to people who don't know what they are and I have (and foster) pit bull type dogs.  I don't want any more negativity associated with them if I can help it.

    For collars, some people on here use prong collars with great success.  You'll need to have some training in using them though and ensuring they fit properly.  I don't use one so I'm no help there.  

    Our pit mix did not like the gentle leader at all and we got a lot of dirty looks & questions about  it being a muzzle. We have had great success with a front clip harness by the gentle leader brand. The front clip harness does not encourage pulling the same way a back clip harness does.  

  • Ditto all of that, we use a gentle leader and have had a lot of improvement with it. But we never take him for walks even to the mailbox with his collar, he pulls too much if he sees someone, instead the harness is a good alternative and when he pulls it doesn't hurt him.
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