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Okay, I'll start the YHL post today

They changed the brackets, yay!  Much, much better!  I'm glad they could fix the tile.  But isn't Design 101 that things are more "pleasing to eye" in 3's and 5's?

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ETA:  Nat, you beat me to it!

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Re: Okay, I'll start the YHL post today

  • haha.  We posted the same thing at the same time!  I'll take mine down.
  • I think it looks great now.  Made a world of difference.

    I don't always love YHL's designs right off the bat, but typically, as they tweak and evolve things, I end up really liking them.  It just seems that it takes them a while to edit things well.  Now, if they'd paint those stools and beef up their stove hood, I'd really be on board with the kitchen.

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  • It looks so much better, but that hood is still no bueno.

    I almost feel bad for them now.  I know I shouldn't but come on, they have made some big misses in this house and this is how they make their living.  I'm not trying to bash them, but so much stuff just doesn't work and it's not even a personal design thing, it just looks so bad.

     

  • imageKickinWingg:

    They changed the brackets, yay!  Much, much better!  I'm glad they could fix the tile.  But isn't Design 101 that things are more "pleasing to eye" in 3's and 5's?

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    ETA:  Nat, you beat me to it!

    It does look much better, and yes odd numbers are supposed to be more pleasing. I'm not sure if it's the odd number or the openness that makes this look better.

  • It looks much better - less crowded.  I agree with pp though - they have made quite a few bad design choices in this house which is not good considering that they both make a living off the blog.
  • Kudos to them for admitting to a design fail & re-DIYing it! The shelves DO look better.  I keep envisioning how a simple stainless steel hood over the stove would look so much sleeker!  Though if my Hubby worked hard to build the cover, I guess I could live w/ it. =]
  • I think the shelves look so nice now! I'm really glad they removed the extra bracket and were able to fix the tile.
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  • Its better but I still think they're a waster of space and dust collectors.
  • imageMrs.KLF:

    I think it looks great now.  Made a world of difference.

    I don't always love YHL's designs right off the bat, but typically, as they tweak and evolve things, I end up really liking them.  It just seems that it takes them a while to edit things well.  Now, if they'd paint those stools and beef up their stove hood, I'd really be on board with the kitchen.

    I swear I think they do it on purpose.  I think it takes the pressure off to just throw something up, write a few post about it and then tweak it until it looks nice. 

  • What changed? I don't see a difference.

  • imageK&P414:
    imageMrs.KLF:

    I think it looks great now.  Made a world of difference.

    I don't always love YHL's designs right off the bat, but typically, as they tweak and evolve things, I end up really liking them.  It just seems that it takes them a while to edit things well.  Now, if they'd paint those stools and beef up their stove hood, I'd really be on board with the kitchen.

    I swear I think they do it on purpose.  I think it takes the pressure off to just throw something up, write a few post about it and then tweak it until it looks nice. 

    I don't know if they do it on purpose or not but I think it is more realistic. I redecorate all the time and most times I tweak everything until it is right. Very rarely does it look great the first try. They aren't designers so it makes sense to me.
  • it is a HUGE improvement, love it.  Tweaking is a normal part of home design, so I'm glad to see them do it. 

    I agree the stove hood needs some help, it is too short and puny in that space. 

    and I wish they'd start over in the master bedroom. 

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  • I agree...and sadly I'll admit my landscaping husband was the one who taught me you always do things in odd numbers...3,5, etc. I had never heard that until we did our landscape at our first house and I tried to put 4 burning bushes in...haha!

    I agree with the range hood though. I do like the fact that it's white...I think silver would get washed out with the silver tiled backsplash, but the one they have just isn't pleasing to the eye. I feel like the height is too high, but then again, I'm wondering if that's code. I know I felt like our over stove microwave was too high but DH said it was code.

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  • imageapugglesmom:
    I don't know if they do it on purpose or not but I think it is more realistic. I redecorate all the time and most times I tweak everything until it is right. Very rarely does it look great the first try. They aren't designers so it makes sense to me.

     

    Agreed.

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  • 3 brackets does look better than 4, but every time I look at their kitchen the height of those top shelves bugs me.  I don't know if it'd be more "right" if they raised the shelf a couple inches; but the bottom of the hood lining up with the top of the shelf drives me crazy and I think it would look better with the top shelf higher, even just 2". 
  • It's still NMS but it looks much better....less cluttered!
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  • I will be the minority and say that I actually don't think it made that big of a difference. My issue is the shelves just look too long and I don't like how they are pretty much touching the hood. It still looks chunky and awkward to me.
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  • yay! much better. I'm glad the tile was a simple fix, it gives me hope for their hood. 
  • It looks better, but there is still so much wrong on that wall (hood, shelves too long/too high/too something, too cluttered....).

    I am still puzzled by Sherry's idea of balance.  Her reasoning makes my head hurt.

  • imageTheBridesMom:

    It looks better, but there is still so much wrong on that wall (hood, shelves too long/too high/too something, too cluttered....).

    I am still puzzled by Sherry's idea of balance.  Her reasoning makes my head hurt.

    It sometimes surprises me that she has an art (fine art?) degree. I think YHL's strength is in styling, but it's not a hit as often as I would think it should be.

  • Since it took me a few looks even figure out what changed, I don't think it was as big of a change as what's really needed. However, I think it is a great first step towards a better looking kitchen.

    Hope there are more to come!

  • I think this is so much better, but it still doesn't save the kitchen for me. 

    Does anyone else read the YHL comments and know of Bob?  He is the one that is always criticizing them for what they say about "art."  Well, I found this comment of his pretty funny and I think I agree with most of it:

     

    BobNo Gravatarsays:

    Do I even need to say anything? I mean, seriously. There?s good design, and there?s bad design. If you think bad design is good design, you simply have bad taste.

    Thank you for seeing the light. Of course you won?t listen to me any more than you already do, but that?s your problem, not mine.

    Now? change the floors and the pendants and you?ll have a great looking kitchen.

     

  • imageHesitantBride:

    I think this is so much better, but it still doesn't save the kitchen for me. 

    Does anyone else read the YHL comments and know of Bob?  He is the one that is always criticizing them for what they say about "art."  Well, I found this comment of his pretty funny and I think I agree with most of it:

     

    BobNo Gravatarsays:

    Do I even need to say anything? I mean, seriously. There?s good design, and there?s bad design. If you think bad design is good design, you simply have bad taste.

    Thank you for seeing the light. Of course you won?t listen to me any more than you already do, but that?s your problem, not mine.

    Now? change the floors and the pendants and you?ll have a great looking kitchen.

     

    Oh yeah, I remember him.  I can't believe they published that comment seeing as how he's not gushing over them. It's almost like this house has been some sort of reality check to them.
  • imageapugglesmom:
    imageK&P414:
    imageMrs.KLF:

    I think it looks great now.  Made a world of difference.

    I don't always love YHL's designs right off the bat, but typically, as they tweak and evolve things, I end up really liking them.  It just seems that it takes them a while to edit things well.  Now, if they'd paint those stools and beef up their stove hood, I'd really be on board with the kitchen.

    I swear I think they do it on purpose.  I think it takes the pressure off to just throw something up, write a few post about it and then tweak it until it looks nice. 

    I don't know if they do it on purpose or not but I think it is more realistic. I redecorate all the time and most times I tweak everything until it is right. Very rarely does it look great the first try. They aren't designers so it makes sense to me.

    Agreed.  I guess I meant more of the perspective that instead of being scared to do anything short of perfect they seem comfortable just getting started and moving forward. 

    Other than the financial risk, worst case scenario is that they get more topics to write about and learn new DIY lessons.

    I'm not always a fan of the designs but I am a big fan of the blog. 

  • imageHesitantBride:

    I think this is so much better, but it still doesn't save the kitchen for me. 

    Does anyone else read the YHL comments and know of Bob?  He is the one that is always criticizing them for what they say about "art."  Well, I found this comment of his pretty funny and I think I agree with most of it:

     

    BobNo Gravatarsays:

    Do I even need to say anything? I mean, seriously. There?s good design, and there?s bad design. If you think bad design is good design, you simply have bad taste.

    Thank you for seeing the light. Of course you won?t listen to me any more than you already do, but that?s your problem, not mine.

    Now? change the floors and the pendants and you?ll have a great looking kitchen.

     

     

     

    I usually just read blogs and forums and then move on without commenting but I felt the need to comment on this pathetic case of jealousy and sour grapes.  Hiding behind the name 'Bob' to make nasty, not constructive, comments on somebody's blog, I can't help but feel sorry for you 'Bob'.   How sad and miserable you must be to get your jollies out of putting other people down just because they don't like the same things you like.  Most of YHL is NMS so I skim over their posts and then move onto things I do like.  The satisfaction that people like you get to willingly paw through things they claim to hate and then go and read through hundreds of comments to find the most scathing ones, what does that say about you? 

  • imageTheAntiBob:

    imageHesitantBride:

    I think this is so much better, but it still doesn't save the kitchen for me. 

    Does anyone else read the YHL comments and know of Bob?  He is the one that is always criticizing them for what they say about "art."  Well, I found this comment of his pretty funny and I think I agree with most of it:

     

    BobNo Gravatarsays:

    Do I even need to say anything? I mean, seriously. There?s good design, and there?s bad design. If you think bad design is good design, you simply have bad taste.

    Thank you for seeing the light. Of course you won?t listen to me any more than you already do, but that?s your problem, not mine.

    Now? change the floors and the pendants and you?ll have a great looking kitchen.

     

     

     

    I usually just read blogs and forums and then move on without commenting but I felt the need to comment on this pathetic case of jealousy and sour grapes.  Hiding behind the name 'Bob' to make nasty, not constructive, comments on somebody's blog, I can't help but feel sorry for you 'Bob'.   How sad and miserable you must be to get your jollies out of putting other people down just because they don't like the same things you like.  Most of YHL is NMS so I skim over their posts and then move onto things I do like.  The satisfaction that people like you get to willingly paw through things they claim to hate and then go and read through hundreds of comments to find the most scathing ones, what does that say about you? 

     

    you really just made a fake account to come here and post this? who are you afraid of? 

     Apparently bob is a regular over there. He's constantly being an obnoxious troll in the comments, and usually demanding a response to some stupid semantical argument. I am surprised by how graciously they continue to handle him. 

  • imageTheAntiBob:

    imageHesitantBride:

    I think this is so much better, but it still doesn't save the kitchen for me. 

    Does anyone else read the YHL comments and know of Bob?  He is the one that is always criticizing them for what they say about "art."  Well, I found this comment of his pretty funny and I think I agree with most of it:

     

    BobNo Gravatarsays:

    Do I even need to say anything? I mean, seriously. There?s good design, and there?s bad design. If you think bad design is good design, you simply have bad taste.

    Thank you for seeing the light. Of course you won?t listen to me any more than you already do, but that?s your problem, not mine.

    Now? change the floors and the pendants and you?ll have a great looking kitchen.

     

     

     

    I usually just read blogs and forums and then move on without commenting but I felt the need to comment on this pathetic case of jealousy and sour grapes.  Hiding behind the name 'Bob' to make nasty, not constructive, comments on somebody's blog, I can't help but feel sorry for you 'Bob'.   How sad and miserable you must be to get your jollies out of putting other people down just because they don't like the same things you like.  Most of YHL is NMS so I skim over their posts and then move onto things I do like.  The satisfaction that people like you get to willingly paw through things they claim to hate and then go and read through hundreds of comments to find the most scathing ones, what does that say about you? 

     

    For the record, I am not "Bob."  I have commented on the YHL blog myself before with respectful (and sometimes positive) comments.  However, I do agree with the substance of this particular Bob comments--well, most of it.  It is not nasty to assert a different opinion on design, as has been said countless times on this board.  YHL makes MONEY (and an entire living) from people reading their blog, and as a commercial enterprise they open themselves up to good, bad, and constructive criticism. 

    Their kitchen has been a design miss.  That is my opinion and I am entirely free to state that. 

  • They originally put 4 brackets under the shelves on the left of the picture and then went back later and removed 1 so they were left with three. The issue was moving tile, etc. but it looks so much better now!
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