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marathon training follow-up question

How did you know when you were ready to train for a marathon? So far I've done 1 half and my next is in 2 weeks. My time for my first was 2:32 and I am hoping to get it closer to 2:20 for the next (if I manage to not stop to pee I can shave at least five minutes off!).

I have been running about a year now and the full would be in January. Is there some way to determine if I'm ready. Or is it a matter of being ready whenever I decide I'm willing to put in the time and effort? 

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Re: marathon training follow-up question

  • I never had a desire to run a marathon and then all of a sudden something in my head clicked one day was was like, "I think I want to train for a full". (I blame this board!)

    Given that you've already done a half and have another one on deck I'm sure that physically your body can handle the additional training.  It's just a matter of when you feel completely ready to go for it.

  • I haven't done it yet but have kind of been walking through this thought process as you have been posting about it.

    Physically, I know I can do it.  I've run 3 halfs and am quite happy with at least one of them.

    I'm not sure I'm mentally committed yet though.  Still thinking about it :)

  • I think you just kind of know :)

    I did 3 halves and had been running consistently for about 3 years before I decided to do one.  I was always in the never ever camp, and then one day (with some prodding from my marathon running boss) I just decided to go for it.

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    I never had a desire to run a marathon and then all of a sudden something in my head clicked one day was was like, "I think I want to train for a full". (I blame this board!)

    Given that you've already done a half and have another one on deck I'm sure that physically your body can handle the additional training.  It's just a matter of when you feel completely ready to go for it.

    Ditto all of this.

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  • My running group is largely to blame. :) Someone is *always* training for marathon (or tri, or ultra) that's hard not to catch "the bug" when running with them 2-3x a week. After I'd done two halves, and dropped about 20 minutes off my time from the first to second, I figured I might as well give 26.2 a shot. A friend of mine reallyreallyreally wanted to run a marathon, so I said I'd train with her. It was a great experience.
  • I think its one of those things you "just know".  In my case, I'm running my seventh half next Saturday and am surrounded by marathoning running group friends and posters here...but still have no desire whatsoever to train for a full.  Okay, maybe a small, tiny bit but not enough to commit to doing so ;)  For the most part, I'm happy where I am and am perfectly content to work on my speed at the "shorter" distances.  For others, they do one half and they're raring to go to do 26.2...it all depends on the person.
  • I think it's so individual and really depends on your goals. I would say that in general, people probably take marathons too casually and run them before they're really "ready." I know I did. For me it was just something that I figured would be a one time thing. A bunch of people were doing it (TNT) and I just kind of said, "why not?" I never figured that I would love it as much as I did. Was I ready? No. That's why my thrid marathon time was over an hour less than my first marathon time. I think anytime you see someone making gains that huge you realize that they weren't anywhere close to their potential when they decided to run their first marathon.

    Sometimes I wish I had waited longer....but on the other hand, I survived and that experience is where my love for marathon training came from. I put in a lot more work now. I see 50 (& this next time around, 60) mile weeks. I do the speedwork, and I keep improving. I still have a way to go before I hit my potential. Some people wait years and years and their first marathon is 3:00. Some people are ok just feeling out the distance & simply finishing the race. I think if you can do either resonably without injury and you're ok with whatever your goal is, you could go for it.

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  • I knew when it didn't scare me anymore.  That, and when I talked to DH about the long runs and the support I would need and he was the one who told me "I don't know why you *wouldn't* do it."
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    Something just clicked I guess. (plus i'm pretty sure pinkwillow spiked my water bottle with something after our last half that would make me think i can run a full)

    By time the space coast marathon rolls around i'll have been running for 3 years - I feel like I made some pretty decent improvements over the last year, and I am curious to see what I could do in a full, although the distance does terrify me.

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  • It was always something that I thought was cool and I admired the people that did it. 

    I decided last fall that I wanted to do it. I was inspired by another mom in my neighborhood who had done it and by my sister who had run a few half marathons.  So I started running regularly with my ultimate goal of a marathon. So I put my eye on the MCM 2012 and figured I would start by doing some races to get there. I did a 10K in December 2011 and a HM in March. I signed up for the MCM in March. Based on my progress so far, I feel like it's something I can do. 

    I guess it's just something that you have to decide for yourself.  

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  • honestly, I don't think you should do it.  why now?  why this marathon? you haven't even been running a year.  do some more halfs.  build your base.  the marathon will always be there.

    I was not ready when I trained for my first marathon.  I did not know it at the time.  I did the HH-Novice 2, got my miles in and finished (and not much else) injury free. it wasn't until I started training for marathon #2 that I realized what a bad idea marathon #1 was. my second training experience was so much better because my body was more ready. 

  • I was 21, and even though I had not run much in the way of long distances it seemed like a good idea at the time. My first half marathon was during marathon training. I finished in a painful*5:25, and declared myself a bucket lister marathoner.

    After DS (10 years after my first marathon), I started running more seriously, and figured "why not?". My son was only about a year, and I still was probably not as prepared as I should have been, but my time was decent (3:50). From there I just kept going. 

     Neither of my firsts were when the H&F board would have deemed me ready, and they would have probably been right. But, I survived and still ran more. So I guess I don't really have a good answer for you!

    Eta: *by painful, I mean I spent the next 6 months in physical therapy. 

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  • When I was toying with doing the Shamrock marathon as my first full this spring, someone sent me this article from RW: http://www.runnersworld.com/article/1,7120,s6-238-244-255-13763-0,00.html and she also added the corollary of "have you been running injury-free for a year".

    I definitely didn't have the right answers.  And I'm okay with not doing a marathon until I have them.

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  • for me, the answer is not for a long long while.

    I don't want to be a 5+ hour marathoner (not that there is anything wrong with that) and right now, with my half PR being a 2:15, I know it would take me over 5 hours to finish a marathon.  That just doesn't look or sound like fun.

    I need to get better at running, get faster at running, lose more weight to protect my joints and make it easier on my knees to carry me that far and get smarter about nutrition and training.

    I've don't want to just run a marathon, I want to race it, and I think that's still several years away for me.

  • I think it just depends what your goal is.  My full was the first race longer than a 5K I ever did.  It was on my bucket list, my husband was training at the same time for the same race, and I just bit the bullet and did it.  I didn't know how hard it would be because I wasn't really a "racer" and just ran 3-5 miles a few times a week for fitness until I started training.  I'm in reasonable shape, it took me 4 months to train, and I finished in 4:07, which is 9:27 pace.  I was happy with that and am very glad I did it.  I will NEVER do it again.  I think I was just really, really lucky to make it through the training and race uninjured and had great weather on race day, a great experience, etc.  

    There is just no motivation for me to invest that type of time again.  I could maybe shave a few minutes off, but I think I ran pretty close to what my body is/was capable of.  I don't love running.  I do it because it's free, and easy to do when/wherever, which works right now with my life with little kids.  But I would rather spend my work out time doing other exercise (hot yoga, playing sports, etc) than running, so there is no real appeal for another full.

    My goal was to do one marathon and finish it in a "respectable" (to me, which was under 10 min/miles) time.  If my goal had been to race, or to be super prepared I probably ran it too soon. But it wasn't, so I'm happy with how it all turned out.   

  • My desire to run a marathon hit me as I crossed the finish line after my first half marathon.  I told myself and my dad right then and there "I will be running the full next year".  It was the Detroit Marathon & Half Marathon.  and I did just that!
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  • imagemoshi's paw:

    When I was toying with doing the Shamrock marathon as my first full this spring, someone sent me this article from RW: http://www.runnersworld.com/article/1,7120,s6-238-244-255-13763-0,00.html and she also added the corollary of "have you been running injury-free for a year".

    I definitely didn't have the right answers.  And I'm okay with not doing a marathon until I have them.

    Thanks for sharing this.  I didn't have all the right answers either so I think that answers it for me as well.

  • I was able to say yes to all of those. I think I'd like to do it just to see if I can rise to the challenge. I don't know if it will be a bucket list thing for me or if I will do more, I doubt I'll have the answer until it's over. I enjoy distance running. I feel like I don't really feel good or get into a groove until my third mile and by the time I'm at mile 7+ I feel really good. I have a twelve mile run this weekend and then I taper until my half. I think if I still feel really good and have the desire after that race I will register. After that I plan to do speed work and maintenance miles only for most of the summer and start actual training in August for the January race. 
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  • imagestpetegirl:
    I was able to say yes to all of those. I think I'd like to do it just to see if I can rise to the challenge. I don't know if it will be a bucket list thing for me or if I will do more, I doubt I'll have the answer until it's over. I enjoy distance running. I feel like I don't really feel good or get into a groove until my third mile and by the time I'm at mile 7+ I feel really good. I have a twelve mile run this weekend and then I taper until my half. I think if I still feel really good and have the desire after that race I will register. After that I plan to do speed work and maintenance miles only for most of the summer and start actual training in August for the January race. 

    Yay! Glad you found your answer. Happy training! 

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  • imageCinco:

    imagestpetegirl:
    I was able to say yes to all of those. I think I'd like to do it just to see if I can rise to the challenge. I don't know if it will be a bucket list thing for me or if I will do more, I doubt I'll have the answer until it's over. I enjoy distance running. I feel like I don't really feel good or get into a groove until my third mile and by the time I'm at mile 7+ I feel really good. I have a twelve mile run this weekend and then I taper until my half. I think if I still feel really good and have the desire after that race I will register. After that I plan to do speed work and maintenance miles only for most of the summer and start actual training in August for the January race. 

    Yay! Glad you found your answer. Happy training! 

    Yes Have fun with it! For me, the answer when I crossed the finish line was, "fuuuuuuck no I won't ever do that again." I was in some real pain. Within 15 min I was all, "Psssshhh, please. I can kick this time's ass..." and I have....and I will continue to. Good luck!

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  • imagestpetegirl:
    I was able to say yes to all of those. I think I'd like to do it just to see if I can rise to the challenge. I don't know if it will be a bucket list thing for me or if I will do more, I doubt I'll have the answer until it's over. I enjoy distance running. I feel like I don't really feel good or get into a groove until my third mile and by the time I'm at mile 7+ I feel really good. I have a twelve mile run this weekend and then I taper until my half. I think if I still feel really good and have the desire after that race I will register. After that I plan to do speed work and maintenance miles only for most of the summer and start actual training in August for the January race. 

    Good for you!

    One last bit of advice: during your "maintenance" phase, don't let your long run distance drop below 8-10 miles. You'll find that ramping up during training will be much easier if you keep the long-run base strong. Between my first (Oct '10) and before training for my second (May '11) I alternated between 8, 10, and 12 miles for long runs and took 39 minutes off my time.

  • I kept increasing my races. I ran a 5k and wanted to challenge myself to a 10k which then led to a half. I really never thought I'd run a full until I found out that a local race was going to be on my 26th birthday and I took it as a sign. I'm now 24 days out til the race and I'm so glad I'm doing it. I really have enjoyed the training and seeing how far my legs will run.  

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