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WWYD: House poor, husband just changed jobs to a 2 hr commute

You bought a house about a year ago, it's way too huge for your current lifestyle, but you were planning to grow into it forever. Affording the mortgage is a stretch that leaves you little money left over to do D&R. Your husband has just been told that instead of working from home he will now be required to work from the office, 1 1/2 (AM) to 2 (PM) hours away. For a 9-5 job that means he'll be gone from 7:30 am to 7pm and spend a gazillion dollars on fuel each week. You have a 2yo and are pregnant.

Can you think of any reason other than not being able to afford realtor's fees to sell not to move closer to his work?

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Re: WWYD: House poor, husband just changed jobs to a 2 hr commute

  • Is that 1 1/2 to 2 hours ONE WAY? If so, I'd sell. My time and sanity are worth it.
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  • Sell.  Doesn't sound like a good fit for your lifestyle.
  • I'd sell, no questions asked. You'd make up the money spent in realtor's fees in gas saved in a year-or-so and perhaps save more money each month by finding a home or rental that better suits your budget.

    eta: I would rather live simply in a modestly-sized home while having money leftover to save or have fun with than to live month-to-month in a "forever" home. The stress wouldn't be worth it to me.
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  • Get the heck out of that house.  The commute is going to KILL your husband.  Even if you can't sell, I would rent it out and move.  I rented out my house after taking a job that was an hour and fifteen minutes to 1.5 hrs each way because the commute was terrible.
  • imageSusie Derkins:
    Sell.  Doesn't sound like a good fit for your lifestyle.

    It's not me, I'm trying to figure out what possible reason anyone wouldn't sell. So far the only reason I can imagine is not having the realtor's fees to sell.

  • imageKnitty:

    imageSusie Derkins:
    Sell.  Doesn't sound like a good fit for your lifestyle.

    It's not me, I'm trying to figure out what possible reason anyone wouldn't sell. So far the only reason I can imagine is not having the realtor's fees to sell.

    Maybe the value has gone down in the past year and they owe more than it's worth?  Maybe she is a huge b*tch and doesn't care about his commute because it's her dream home?  Maybe the schools there are better than schools closer to his job?  There could be a number of reasons.

  • Are you talking about the people from Bower Power?
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  • imageboofly1224:
    Are you talking about the people from Bower Power?

    Yeah, I figured trying to figure out why was a little better than asking her "wtf are you *** crazy?!"

  • imageKnitty:

    imageboofly1224:
    Are you talking about the people from Bower Power?

    Yeah, I figured trying to figure out why was a little better than asking her "wtf are you *** crazy?!"

    I thought from the description you were talking about BP. I see it mentioned briefly in the most recent post but was there another more detailed post about it?
  • imageKnitty:

    imageboofly1224:
    Are you talking about the people from Bower Power?

    Yeah, I figured trying to figure out why was a little better than asking her "wtf are you *** crazy?!"

    Depending on how much income is generated from the blog, I can see how they may decide to stay.  Maybe they think the house has so much potential that it's worth it to stay to continue making money from blogging.  The commute will kill him, though.

  • Man, I feel sorry for Jeremy.  Knowing about where they live vs. where the Equifax office is located, that is one long, traffic-filled commute.  Both ways.  Every day.  I don't know if schools are an issue - isn't she planning to home school?  He's probably just sucking it up and making the sacrifice so they can stay in the house they love out where they have land and quiet, and not have to deal with the craziness that is frequently the Atlanta metro area. 
  • That's all I've seen mentioned about it (re: BP). I hope things work out for them. I don't think they'd sell the house cause it's their dream home and I think they hope to have lots of kids to fill it up with. 
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  • imagealicat32908:
    Man, I feel sorry for Jeremy.  Knowing about where they live vs. where the Equifax office is located, that is one long, traffic-filled commute.  Both ways.  Every day.  I don't know if schools are an issue - isn't she planning to home school?  He's probably just sucking it up and making the sacrifice so they can stay in the house they love out where they have land and quiet, and not have to deal with the craziness that is frequently the Atlanta metro area. 

    What area are they living in?

    For a while I commuted from Canton to a location further South than the Equifax office, and it was brutal.  I can't imagine trying to do that long term.

  • imagealicat32908:
    imageKnitty:

    imageboofly1224:
    Are you talking about the people from Bower Power?

    Yeah, I figured trying to figure out why was a little better than asking her "wtf are you *** crazy?!"

    I thought from the description you were talking about BP. I see it mentioned briefly in the most recent post but was there another more detailed post about it?

    In the comments she gives more information.

    I'm sure they're just freaking out about selling that house, but alone with a newborn and a two year old for at least 12 hours, probably doing bath and bed for the two year old while the newborn has that cluster feeding evening time and then he arrives home at 7 exhausted from two hours in the car. It just sounds like hell on earth to me.

  • I can think of plenty of reasons to stay. It might not be a permanent issue. They might be underwater. Selling a house that they JUST refinanced plus buying a new one and moving would be a pretty big financial hit.

    It seems awfully soon to be calling them crazy, maybe they are thinking about selling. I'm assuming you don't actually know them, or their plans for the future. 

    My boyfriend has to commute that far once in a while, and it's not a big deal because it's not every day. Maybe it won't be for them either. 

  • Honestly, that 2 hour commute is the reason I work a PT job in a completely dull job. That's what my commute would be if I wanted to find a job in my field. At least.

    I don't feel right judging her situation because I'm sure that Jeremy would say something if the commute got rough, but I'm going to guess that they have family in the area and that this is a long term decision to stay put vs. move (i.e. maybe they're only moving him to work in office temporarily or he has the option to find another job elsewhere). I imagine the market for photographers in her area is probably better than closer to Atlanta and that factors in too.

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  • I would sell ASAP.  I think the commute will kill her poor husband, but based on some of their older posts I doubt they have the money.  It would worry me that the commute will hurt his earnings and they've said he needs to hit bonus every month for them to make ends meet. It seems very unusual for the company to be moving people back into the office. 

  • imageGo_Dawgs:

    imagealicat32908:
    Man, I feel sorry for Jeremy.  Knowing about where they live vs. where the Equifax office is located, that is one long, traffic-filled commute.  Both ways.  Every day.  I don't know if schools are an issue - isn't she planning to home school?  He's probably just sucking it up and making the sacrifice so they can stay in the house they love out where they have land and quiet, and not have to deal with the craziness that is frequently the Atlanta metro area. 

    What area are they living in?

    For a while I commuted from Canton to a location further South than the Equifax office, and it was brutal.  I can't imagine trying to do that long term.

    I'm guessing they are way out in Gwinnett because when she was still in her old house and appeared on Nate Berkus she said she was from a town way up in Gwinnett Co.  I would think the new house is in the same general area or maybe a bit farther out since they wanted land and privacy.  Regardless of whether they are north, east, south or west, commuting from that far away to the city SUCKS!
  • imagealicat32908:
    imageGo_Dawgs:

    imagealicat32908:
    Man, I feel sorry for Jeremy.  Knowing about where they live vs. where the Equifax office is located, that is one long, traffic-filled commute.  Both ways.  Every day.  I don't know if schools are an issue - isn't she planning to home school?  He's probably just sucking it up and making the sacrifice so they can stay in the house they love out where they have land and quiet, and not have to deal with the craziness that is frequently the Atlanta metro area. 

    What area are they living in?

    For a while I commuted from Canton to a location further South than the Equifax office, and it was brutal.  I can't imagine trying to do that long term.

    I'm guessing they are way out in Gwinnett because when she was still in her old house and appeared on Nate Berkus she said she was from a town way up in Gwinnett Co.  I would think the new house is in the same general area or maybe a bit farther out since they wanted land and privacy.  Regardless of whether they are north, east, south or west, commuting from that far away to the city SUCKS!



    I think they live in Loganville now.
  • imagewomet:
    imagealicat32908:
    imageGo_Dawgs:

    imagealicat32908:
    Man, I feel sorry for Jeremy.  Knowing about where they live vs. where the Equifax office is located, that is one long, traffic-filled commute.  Both ways.  Every day.  I don't know if schools are an issue - isn't she planning to home school?  He's probably just sucking it up and making the sacrifice so they can stay in the house they love out where they have land and quiet, and not have to deal with the craziness that is frequently the Atlanta metro area. 

    What area are they living in?

    For a while I commuted from Canton to a location further South than the Equifax office, and it was brutal.  I can't imagine trying to do that long term.

    I'm guessing they are way out in Gwinnett because when she was still in her old house and appeared on Nate Berkus she said she was from a town way up in Gwinnett Co.  I would think the new house is in the same general area or maybe a bit farther out since they wanted land and privacy.  Regardless of whether they are north, east, south or west, commuting from that far away to the city SUCKS!



    I think they live in Loganville now.
     Oh ok.  I have a friend who moved out there a year ago and I haven't even visited yet it's so far out!  Maybe he's taking the Gwinnett transit that goes into the city.  Still a long commute but at least he wouldn't be dealing with the traffic. 
  • imagealicat32908:

    Oh ok.  I have a friend who moved out there a year ago and I haven't even visited yet it's so far out!  Maybe he's taking the Gwinnett transit that goes into the city.  Still a long commute but at least he wouldn't be dealing with the traffic. 



    I actually think I saw him on Friday on my way home. I did a double take but thought to myself that it couldn't be him since he works from home. Clearly, I know too much about them.
  • Loganville is FAR.  Holy crap.  Doing that commute just to have a big house would be nutso (if that is the only reason they are hanging on to it).  You can have a lot of kids in a smaller house - plus have an extra two hours every day to spend with them.  I really hope they move closer in.
  • imagewomet:

    imagealicat32908:

    Oh ok.  I have a friend who moved out there a year ago and I haven't even visited yet it's so far out!  Maybe he's taking the Gwinnett transit that goes into the city.  Still a long commute but at least he wouldn't be dealing with the traffic. 



    I actually think I saw him on Friday on my way home. I did a double take but thought to myself that it couldn't be him since he works from home. Clearly, I know too much about them.

    LOL, I was next to a couple from teen mom at a traffic light once. They looked happy.

  • I would venture to say that they are most likely underwater on their loan and do not have the cash to cover the difference.  They refinanced through a program that does not require an appraisal or DTI analysis.  If they were not underwater, they could have gotten a better rate/terms with a traditional loan.  Since they did not go that route, they probably owe more than it is valued at.
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  • imageJustinlove:
    I would venture to say that they are most likely underwater on their loan and do not have the cash to cover the difference.  They refinanced through a program that does not require an appraisal or DTI analysis.  If they were not underwater, they could have gotten a better rate/terms with a traditional loan.  Since they did not go that route, they probably owe more than it is valued at.

    Didn't they also sell their old house on contract? (Meaning that they basically have renters and two mortgages right now?) 

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  • Both MH and I commute over an hour to work. It's not ideal but it's doable, and fairly common in our area. We actually used to live really close to our jobs and ended up buying further away because the quality of life is just better where we are. More space for less money, better schools, proximity to the beach, etc..
  • imagesjh722:

    imageJustinlove:
    I would venture to say that they are most likely underwater on their loan and do not have the cash to cover the difference.  They refinanced through a program that does not require an appraisal or DTI analysis.  If they were not underwater, they could have gotten a better rate/terms with a traditional loan.  Since they did not go that route, they probably owe more than it is valued at.

    Didn't they also sell their old house on contract? (Meaning that they basically have renters and two mortgages right now?) 

    Now that you mention it, I do believe they mentioned something about still having to contribute to the old home's payments.  Ugh...no house is worth all of that (but people over-buy all the time).

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  • imageJustinlove:
    imagesjh722:

    imageJustinlove:
    I would venture to say that they are most likely underwater on their loan and do not have the cash to cover the difference.  They refinanced through a program that does not require an appraisal or DTI analysis.  If they were not underwater, they could have gotten a better rate/terms with a traditional loan.  Since they did not go that route, they probably owe more than it is valued at.

    Didn't they also sell their old house on contract? (Meaning that they basically have renters and two mortgages right now?) 

    Now that you mention it, I do believe they mentioned something about still having to contribute to the old home's payments.  Ugh...no house is worth all of that (but people over-buy all the time).

    Can someone (SJH maybe) explain this to me?  How is it that you have to continue making some sort of payment for a house that you don't own any longer? Gee, it's sounding more and more like that house was bought based purely on emotions. 
  • imagealicat32908:

    Can someone (SJH maybe) explain this to me?  How is it that you have to continue making some sort of payment for a house that you don't own any longer? Gee, it's sounding more and more like that house was bought based purely on emotions. 

    In my experience, a contract sale is basically a rent-to-own.

    A mortgage is written up between the buyer and the seller, with an amortization schedule, interest rate, payment amount, etc. An agreed-upon amount might go toward a down payment at the end of the contract term (maybe 2 - 5 years), at which point the buyer needs to be able to obtain traditional financing.

    I've never seen a contract sale (that's not between family) where the seller agrees to hold the mortgage for 15 or 30 years. 

    The buyers usually can't get a loan right then but anticipate they'll be able to in the near future. (Credit issues, self-employment, whatever.) So if you sell your house on contract, and still owe on it, you're making mortgage payments while the "buyers" pay you rent/monthly payment until they can get a traditional loan. 

    My personal opinion is that if a bank's not willing to take a risk on you, neither am I, but I can see where some people look at it as having a long-term lease in place.

    BabyFruit Ticker
  • They are leasing the first house so they still own it.  http://www.bowerpowerblog.com/2011/03/lease-purchase-money-and-emotional-rollercoaster-kinda-story/

    So, they are technically underwater on two homes.  If the renters walk, the Bowers get to keep the $7k deposit, but that wouldn't put a huge dent in the mortgage.  They are riskier than I choose to be financially (and we own a rental but are not underwater on either home).

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