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mlwooten

Nitaw, I totally wanted, "ring ring hooka" as my ring tone but.. professionalism and all. I LOVE that show. 

 

tartaruga

mrsbecky07:

heliocentric:

Kind of random, but the kid stuff made me think of it. I hate that during the ridiculous Ann Romney and whatever-that-pundit's-name-was debacle the issue immediately went from WOMEN and the economy to MOTHERS and the economy.

Woman =/= Mother. Sure, most women are or will likely be mothers at some point, but not all of us are now or will ever be and we count, too.

 

this is sadly a great point (I say sadly bc I think I am one of the ones who made the leap from woman to mother in that whole mess, I didnt even notice it.) The interests of women are not the same as the interests of mothers.

And of course, women who don't want to be mothers don't count at all. No birth control or abortions for anyone!

AnnieBlah

laurenpetro:

AnnieBlah:

missusbee:

AnnieBlah:

It is your party and all, but arent the kids family too (say, a cousin's kid)?  I don't get this argument, but, it is your party so do what you want.  But, be prepared for people nto able to attend.

well, say you invite all of your family and friends to a bachelorette party and it is, I don't know, Chippendale or something. You wouldn't get all butthurt because you invited all family EXCEPT for kids and squawk about them getting excluded. You would recognize that its an inappropriate venue for children and be done with it. 

I don't see why showers are any different, I really don't. Its an inappropriate venue for kids. 

And yes, I'm really disappointed that my friends wouldn't come for a couple of hours because they couldn't bring their kids. I think that sucks. 

Nudie vs baby?  yeah, totally different.  I can get behind this for a wedding shower, but just don't agree for baby showers.  Baby showers aren't really 'off limits', imo, for babies to come to, BUT, as I said, your party, do what you want.  Not everyone can find child care so that is why I said be prepared.  I am not sure why the anger on this.  ::shrugs::

IMO, showers are adult-female parties unless otherwise noted.  i have zero problem with people asking if they can bring their kids, but F*CKING ASK.  it's not that hard. 

my issue is, if someone tells you that it's a "no kids event" (be it shower or wedding or whatever) don't act all pissy about it.  i've been married almost 9 years and my cousin STILL acts like a little girl about the fact that we said he couldn't bring his kids.  and then made a scene when my friends who drove 600 miles to come to the wedding brought their 8 month old baby because there was a miscommunication and we didn't have a sitter set up.  "why is that kid allowed but mine isn't?"  (because your kids are bratty runners who like to pull plates off of tables and smear food on rugs, as opposed to the baby who couldn't even walk yet.)

I agree that you can't get pissy about it if someone says no.  If I couldnt find a sitter and was told no, it would be "I am so sorry to miss it, but can't find a sitter for X", not "You thundercunt!!!"

nitaw

mlwooten:

Nitaw, I totally wanted, "ring ring hooka" as my ring tone but.. professionalism and all. I LOVE that show. 

 

LOL. I know. I'd do it too if I could. LOL 

OSULori

copzgirl:

mrsbecky07:

copzgirl:

brideymcbriderson:

mrsbecky07:

I think we need to have a talk soon.

"I love your mom, but I'm not comfortable being seen in that state by anyone other than the medical staff, the person who made the baby with me, and the person who birthed me."

Lather, rinse, repeat.

*sniff* I am going to try so hard to not be that MIL.  

You all keep me straight if I ever get a DIL..mmkay? 

I think its all about the son. I know that's what's really going on here. H needs to man up.  My mom is a TOTAL control freak and can be very overbearing but because her mother was psychotic (as in, threw a christmas ornament at my mom while she was feeding my brother in the hospital - born Dec 17 hence the ornaments - bc my mom wouldnt let her hold him since she was FEEDING HIM) I think she is actually probably a very good MIL relatively.  She gives her opinion nonstop but never invites herself over, never intrudes into family time with SILs family and so on and so forth.  so she has this sense of boundaries (and to be fair, MIL does too, it's just H who doesn't.)

Seriously though ladies thanks. you all are making me feel much better and much less irrational about this.  I just need to sit down and word it all in a way that doesn't make me sound petty. I think we'll do it tonight bc he is going to NJ this weekend so that way he can then discuss the expectations with his mother.

For the record...we didn't call or inform anyone until after babycopz birth (you get smarter after the first one) and it was glorious.   

I like this idea...not to keep my ILs away (FIL and SMIL are too wrapped up in their own lives, and MIL thinks the sun rises and sets on J and I because we're the "normal" ones so she'll do whatever we ask) but to keep my parents away.  I love 'em and they're pretty awesome most of the time, but they can be sliiiiightly overbearing since I'm the only one of their three kids that lives in the area.  As a result I get the brunt of their need to parent one of their adult kids, whether I actually "need" parenting or not. 

Who knows though...by the time I actually get pregnant and am getting ready to give birth, I may very well go all "I waaaaant myyyyy mommmyyyyyy!".  I hope I don't though...just having J in the delivery room and calling parents after sounds SO much better.

kelbrian

Any person who chats/texts on their phone, eats or puts on makeup while driving is an @sshole. I'd even say neglectful, especially if they have children in the car.

Thanks for putting my life and my kid's life in danger, you POS!

This rant brought to you by angry cyclist who is sick of irresponsible idiots on the road. Cheers! 

meshaliu

swimbikepuke:

DearSwimmerKelly, I'm super glad you made Olympic Trials, but you are not going to the Olympics, which means that at 25 you and I are the exact same kind of swimmer: recreational.  This also means you cannot demand your own damn lane at workout or completely disregard lane etiquette when you are forced to share.  Also, you should get a job, because if you can't make a living by swimming (and you can't), you're going to have to do something else. 

Is swimmer Kelly related to Kappa Kappa Kelly? Or are you just plauged by annoying Kellys?

AnnieBlah

kelbrian:

Any person who chats/texts on their phone, eats or puts on makeup while driving is an @sshole. I'd even say neglectful, especially if they have children in the car.

Thanks for putting my life and my kid's life in danger, you POS!

This rant brought to you by angry cyclist who is sick of irresponsible idiots on the road. Cheers! 

Word, but can I add an annoyance of cyclists?

 

You have to STOP AT LIGHTS aholes.  Seriously, doing swirlies through them (best I can describe) doesnt fool anyone.  Get hit, just don't make me late for work.

Also, don't go the wrong way down a one way.  Same as a car doofus.

copzgirl

swimbikepuke:

(gym vents)

Stop using the bathroom stalls as changing rooms.  Sorry you're embarrassed of your body.  I promise I am not going to look at you while you change, but if you don't get out of the bathroom I am going to pee on the floor.

Any little boy who is old enough to ask about my pubic hair is too old for the women's locker room.  If he can tie his own shoes, he can put on his own bathing suit.

 You don't get the entire bench.  Because you don't get the entire bench, you might not be able to unload the entire contents of your locker while you put on your bra.

DearSwimmerKelly, I'm super glad you made Olympic Trials, but you are not going to the Olympics, which means that at 25 you and I are the exact same kind of swimmer: recreational.  This also means you cannot demand your own damn lane at workout or completely disregard lane etiquette when you are forced to share.  Also, you should get a job, because if you can't make a living by swimming (and you can't), you're going to have to do something else. 

Along this line.  I cross my heart I am not making this up.  Babycopz works in her dad and stepmoms tanning salon ( DON'T get me started on that) and people will PEE IN THE TRASHCAN out of fear of wasting tanning time when in actuality they can stop the tanning bed electronically so you can go to a real bathroom and use a real toilet and still get all your precious minutes.

So, yea.  My daughter cleans up peoples urine on the regular because they are lazy and stupid. 

LittleMoxie

swimbikepuke:

DearSwimmerKelly, I'm super glad you made Olympic Trials, but you are not going to the Olympics, which means that at 25 you and I are the exact same kind of swimmer: recreational.  This also means you cannot demand your own damn lane at workout or completely disregard lane etiquette when you are forced to share.  Also, you should get a job, because if you can't make a living by swimming (and you can't), you're going to have to do something else. 

I'm with you on everything else, but can't you be a professional athlete, but just not at the Olympic level?  Is that not true with swimming.

She sounds super annoying, btw, I'm just wondering if that's technically true (that  you are recreational if you don't make the Olympics.  Or were you referring to age?)

marie427

AnnieBlah:

You have to STOP AT LIGHTS aholes.  Seriously, doing swirlies through them (best I can describe) doesnt fool anyone.  Get hit, just don't make me late for work.

Also, don't go the wrong way down a one way.  Same as a car doofus.

Preach. In Montreal I was pleasantly surprised at 1) how many cyclists there are there, 2) how all the cars there don't aim to run cyclists over, and 3) how cyclists obey traffic laws there, which I think is why I observed #2 happening. I told DH that if cyclists around here obeyed traffic laws like cars did, people here wouldn't hate them so much.

I'm sure kelbrian obeys traffic laws but it does suck that enough cyclists don't and that tends to make people hate all cyclists. 

kelbrian

AnnieBlah:

kelbrian:

Any person who chats/texts on their phone, eats or puts on makeup while driving is an @sshole. I'd even say neglectful, especially if they have children in the car.

Thanks for putting my life and my kid's life in danger, you POS!

This rant brought to you by angry cyclist who is sick of irresponsible idiots on the road. Cheers! 

Word, but can I add an annoyance of cyclists?

 

You have to STOP AT LIGHTS aholes.  Seriously, doing swirlies through them (best I can describe) doesnt fool anyone.  Get hit, just don't make me late for work.

Also, don't go the wrong way down a one way.  Same as a car doofus.

The hipster creeps here who cycle don't even do swirlies. They just barrel through them. I cannot stand it. I visibly get angry and will yell. It stresses me out, and it confuses my kid.

At least she is loud. She yells at stupid people all the time. 

"Wear a helmet - it protects your brain! I don't want my brain smushed. Why would you want yours smushed?!" 

"Stop at red - a car will put a hole through you if you don't stop!"

brideymcbriderson

swimbikepuke:

(go ahead, name ONE of the swimmers from the 2002 Olympics - no googling).

Well, that's because there was no swimming in the 2002 Olympics.  2002 was a winter Olympics.

I can name 5 swimmers off the top of my head although I can't recall the last name of one of them.  Dana Somethingerother, made a comeback in 2008, early 40s, took the silver I think?

I haven't read anything about swimming other than this post.

Well, there one swimmer that you KNOW I can name, sbp!

Edited because that was a hot mess.

kelbrian

marie427:

AnnieBlah:

You have to STOP AT LIGHTS aholes.  Seriously, doing swirlies through them (best I can describe) doesnt fool anyone.  Get hit, just don't make me late for work.

Also, don't go the wrong way down a one way.  Same as a car doofus.

Preach. In Montreal I was pleasantly surprised at 1) how many cyclists there are there, 2) how all the cars there don't aim to run cyclists over, and 3) how cyclists obey traffic laws there, which I think is why I observed #2 happening. I told DH that if cyclists around here obeyed traffic laws like cars did, people here wouldn't hate them so much.

I'm sure kelbrian obeys traffic laws but it does suck that enough cyclists don't and that tends to make people hate all cyclists. 

It's kind of awful here because people don't expect cyclists to follow the laws because, well, they just don't often enough. Which means that when I actually stop at lights and signs, cars almost run into me. Because they aren't expecting me to stop. Then, they start yelling at me, saying that I'm in the way. Ugh. It really and truly bothers me how hateful motorists are here toward cyclists no matter what you do. It's one of the reasons why we are starting to look into moving to an area that is more accepting.

I'm also of the mindset that cyclists need to have different rules than motorists, but I know that's pretty unpopular. You just can't really understand it unless you cycle yourself, especially in cities. Stopping at every single sign is really and truly obnoxious and hindering. I wish that we could implement what other countries do - separate lights and rules for cyclists. But, they also have a completely different infrastructure as far as roads, so that would have to be changed as well. 

marie427

swimbikepuke:

LittleMoxie:

swimbikepuke:

DearSwimmerKelly, I'm super glad you made Olympic Trials, but you are not going to the Olympics, which means that at 25 you and I are the exact same kind of swimmer: recreational.  This also means you cannot demand your own damn lane at workout or completely disregard lane etiquette when you are forced to share.  Also, you should get a job, because if you can't make a living by swimming (and you can't), you're going to have to do something else. 

I'm with you on everything else, but can't you be a professional athlete, but just not at the Olympic level?  Is that not true with swimming.

She sounds super annoying, btw, I'm just wondering if that's technically true (that  you are recreational if you don't make the Olympics.  Or were you referring to age?)

There's no professional swimming circuit.  Gary Hall Jr. tried to create one about a decade ago and it went nowhere.  The only way to make a living at swimming is to be an Olympian and even then, it's not exactly a life-long career (go ahead, name ONE of the swimmers from the 2002 Olympics - no googling).  If she started running and biking, she might be able to parle it into a professional triathlon career with sponsors and whatnot, but usually really good triathletes come from a running or cycling background, not a swimming one.  

Do you mean the 2000 or 2004 Olympics? Either way, I'm going with Lenny Krayzelberg. And I know Michael Phelps swam in 2004. 

brideymcbriderson

swimbikepuke:

And I think you mean Dara Torres.  So FAIL!!!!!  

Yes, that's who I meant!  But I was close.  That's gotta be worth something!

I actually used to be able to name more swimmers because I followed Olympic swimming relatively closely in '96 and '00.  I just forgot all the names.

mysticporter

swimbikepuke:

There's no professional swimming circuit.  Gary Hall Jr. tried to create one about a decade ago and it went nowhere.  The only way to make a living at swimming is to be an Olympian and even then, it's not exactly a life-long career (go ahead, name ONE of the swimmers from the 2000 Olympics - no googling).  If she started running and biking, she might be able to parle it into a professional triathlon career with sponsors and whatnot, but usually really good triathletes come from a running or cycling background, not a swimming one.  

 Isn't there irony there, since the Olympics are defined as being for amateurs?

The only people I know who make a living related to swimming are swimming coaches or people otherwise affiliated with youth competitions.

The only former Olympic swimmer I can name is Johnny Weismuller (I played by the rules and didn't Google, so excuse the spelling), and I only know him because he was Tarzan.

LittleMoxie

swimbikepuke:

LittleMoxie:

swimbikepuke:

DearSwimmerKelly, I'm super glad you made Olympic Trials, but you are not going to the Olympics, which means that at 25 you and I are the exact same kind of swimmer: recreational.  This also means you cannot demand your own damn lane at workout or completely disregard lane etiquette when you are forced to share.  Also, you should get a job, because if you can't make a living by swimming (and you can't), you're going to have to do something else. 

I'm with you on everything else, but can't you be a professional athlete, but just not at the Olympic level?  Is that not true with swimming.

She sounds super annoying, btw, I'm just wondering if that's technically true (that  you are recreational if you don't make the Olympics.  Or were you referring to age?)

There's no professional swimming circuit.  Gary Hall Jr. tried to create one about a decade ago and it went nowhere.  The only way to make a living at swimming is to be an Olympian and even then, it's not exactly a life-long career (go ahead, name ONE of the swimmers from the 2000 Olympics - no googling).  If she started running and biking, she might be able to parle it into a professional triathlon career with sponsors and whatnot, but usually really good triathletes come from a running or cycling background, not a swimming one.  

Ah, ok.  Interesting. 

laurenpetro

brideymcbriderson:

swimbikepuke:

And I think you mean Dara Torres.  So FAIL!!!!!  

Yes, that's who I meant!  But I was close.  That's gotta be worth something!

I actually used to be able to name more swimmers because I followed Olympic swimming relatively closely in '96 and '00.  I just forgot all the names.

i have such a crush on her.

laurenpetro

swimbikepuke:

Former Olympians can make a pretty good living if they got a gold in a recent olympics or did something very unusual like Mark Spitz and his 7 golds.  Usually, they work as motivational speakers or they get paid to do meet and greets within the sport.  Gary Hall Jr. was just in Chicago doing a autograph signing and has made a lot of money because he's an insulin dependent diabetic and is a kind of spokes person for that cause.  They also get called up every four years to do the commentary on various high profile meets.  Rowdy Gains, Summer Sanders, and Janet Evans have done this among others.  And then if you're hot, you can pose for playboy.  Like Amanda Beard.

 

best. porn name. ever.

marie427

I'm pretty sure I heard Dara Torres is aiming to swim again at this year's Olympics? I'm in awe.

laurenpetro

swimbikepuke:

laurenpetro:

brideymcbriderson:

swimbikepuke:

And I think you mean Dara Torres.  So FAIL!!!!!  

Yes, that's who I meant!  But I was close.  That's gotta be worth something!

I actually used to be able to name more swimmers because I followed Olympic swimming relatively closely in '96 and '00.  I just forgot all the names.

i have such a crush on her.

Word.

 

well, i know what i'm doing tonight. 

LaurierGirl28

marie427:

AnnieBlah:

You have to STOP AT LIGHTS aholes.  Seriously, doing swirlies through them (best I can describe) doesnt fool anyone.  Get hit, just don't make me late for work.

Also, don't go the wrong way down a one way.  Same as a car doofus.

Preach. In Montreal I was pleasantly surprised at 1) how many cyclists there are there, 2) how all the cars there don't aim to run cyclists over, and 3) how cyclists obey traffic laws there, which I think is why I observed #2 happening. I told DH that if cyclists around here obeyed traffic laws like cars did, people here wouldn't hate them so much.

I'm sure kelbrian obeys traffic laws but it does suck that enough cyclists don't and that tends to make people hate all cyclists. 

They are probably happy because they are full of poutine and real beer. 

Ladybug2002

swimbikepuke:

There's no professional swimming circuit.  Gary Hall Jr. tried to create one about a decade ago and it went nowhere.  The only way to make a living at swimming is to be an Olympian and even then, it's not exactly a life-long career (go ahead, name ONE of the swimmers from the 2000 Olympics - no googling).  If she started running and biking, she might be able to parle it into a professional triathlon career with sponsors and whatnot, but usually really good triathletes come from a running or cycling background, not a swimming one.  

The only one I can name is Malchow, but that's kind of cheating because I know his wife.  

mrsbecky07

2000?  I don't know if I have my years right, but Jenny Thompson, Dara Torres, Megan quan (spelling), Gary Hall Jr. Lenny Krayzelburg as mentioned......and in Australia Ian Thorpe.  And I barely watched those Olympics.  But my family takes the swimming events seriously.  They are the only events we watch together.

I met Jenny T. Once.  Got her autograph and everything.  She was pretty and shorter than I expected.  Could tell she was a swimmer a mile away though! 

mrsbecky07

And ooh ooh ooh Tommy Hannan!!  He went to HS with my brother.  Kind of a douche (although not on a Mark Texeira level, who also graduated with them) but I thought he was so hot.  I always stalked him at swim meets.  (I told you all in another thread I liked guys in speedos......lol.).  

LittleMoxie

I can't remember anyone from the 2000 Olympics in any sport.  I barely remember they were in Sydney.

marie427

LittleMoxie:

I can't remember anyone from the 2000 Olympics in any sport.  I barely remember they were in Sydney.

I was thinking the same thing. The time zone difference made it so much harder to pay attention even though I am an Olympics FREAK.

This year, I think I am going to have to shut off the internet while I'm at work so I don't get spoiled on major event results. I'm selfish and I hate when the Olympics don't accommodate Eastern Standard Time. Also, these were the Olympics that New York was in the running for, so I'm still bitter about that too. But of course I will watch.

Sibil

Forgetting the olympics, b/c I can barely remember professional football athletes, and I think I've only watched 1 summer olympics (in Japanese, so that doesn't help)... back to ILs.

I'm still cheesed that we paid for FIL's hotel room at our wedding.  He didn't bother to reserve one, 2 of our friends had to cancel, so we just transferred the reservation to him.  He never even offered money for it.

Now, I like this guy a lot, and I've come to accept that we'll never get a card or gift from him for anything (which is kinda awesome b/c he doesn't expect anything from us), but, seriously, offer to pay for your own damn hotel room.  

Our wedding "gift" from him is apparently an old large professional milk shake maker that he took from his mom.  I only know this b/c he told my parents who finally told me.  We're to get it someday.  I've been married over 5 years, although admittedly, we haven't lived in shipping distance.  Not that I want it!

JulieFe

Copz, I'll start a fight with you.

MATHAI FOREVAH!