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If prostitution is legal in Columbia...
then what's the big deal? Is it that they treated the ladies cheaply? That there were still "on duty"? That they put info at risk? That is just looks bad because it's illegal in the States?
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I'm not all that bothered by this whole thing, to be honest. Even if it was on duty, depending on what that means for Secret Service agents. If being on duty is more like 12 hour shifts where you have to be available but can somewhat go about your day so long as you stay in an area or something, then I don't care. You could just get a call, stop, and go about your business. It's not like you're drugged up and can't do anything.
If you were literally supposed to be in front of the president/ambassador/whoever protecting him, then obviously I have a problem with that.
Secret Service Agents probably shouldn't be out bragging about being secret service agents and how they are there to protect the president when they are out partying. Even if whatever partying they are doing is legal, part of the job is not running around bragging about the job and making yourself a target.
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And this as well.
Exactly
For instance, the fact that it's legal in Amsterdam doesn't mean you can't get fired for smoking the good shiit while on duty as a secret service agent in Holland.
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I guess it would depend on what eactly the the code of conduct said. I think comparing it to the use of illicit drugs is apples and oranges though.
How so?
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Also, although they weren't the President's personal security detail, it's possible that they could have had sensitive information in their rooms. Using a prostitute to get into an official's room to retrieve information is one of the oldest tricks in the spy book.
Because smoking dope will affect your behaviour/judgement for some time after you smoke it and getting laid won't.
But hanging out with prostitutes and bringing them back to your hotel room does affect your judgement or put anyone at risk?
Maybe not outside of work but on a work sponsored trip? Please, there is no difference.
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You don't see the difference?
A SS agent smokes dope, then goes on shift and is too buzzed to do his job.
A SS agent gets laid, feels great and does his job better.
wow, this should totes be their defense. "i cleaned the pipes, yo! i'm better now! blah blah should've shut up and kept my job information to myself and not disclosed it to a hooker blah blah making my country look bad and forcing hillz to dance at a columbian bar to distract."
Are you stupid or something?
Yes, yes, by all means, let's have the men on duty and tasked with providing security to americans overseas paying more attention to getting their knobs polished and stealing services from local "businesses" than doing their damned jobs.
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Don't look down on a little afternoon delight. It does a body good.
My point was (obviously lost) that sex does not adversely affect job performance the way drugs do.
Frankly, I coundn't care less about this whole 'scandal'.
WTF is wrong with what they did?
Oh let me count the ways
- violating their code of conduct
- compromising the security of the president
- embarassing their agency and country
- looking like colossal d!ckwads arguing about payment with prostitute
- taking the focus of the president's visit to Columbia away from the important issues
- using American tax dollars that flew them there to get fv.cked
- acting like idiotic misogynists by soliciting prostitutes in the first place
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only if it's legal in the host country.
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which, ironically, rhymes with chode
I wonder if ridesbuttons would be on board if we were talking about prostitutes that are underage by American standards but a-ok by a foreign country's.
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For real. Because obviously if it is legal that means there's no such thing as human trafficking or sex slaves in that country right? Lets just stick our heads in the sand. But tomorrow we'll all go back to our normal PC&E unity horses that talk about human rights for all and things like that.
Child prostitution is also legal in some countries but I doubt we would fall back on "legality" as a defense in that case.
This story bothers me for the reasons cited above. But I also loathe men who sleep with prostitutes and I'm not sure if this is clouding my judgment.
But none of this stains the President as some Fox News types would have you believe. That's just bullpucky.
While it doesn't, the fact is it's the election cycle now and Mittens is the nominee. You don't need these silly azz unprofessional distraction in the middle of your campaign. It detracts from larger issues and your opponent can milk it for all it's worth.
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Anyone traveling for government reasons is expected (and explicitly told) that they are to obey the laws of the host country, but ALSO to obey the laws of the United States. If it's breaking US law, you can't do it - i.e. prostitutes, smoking drugs. You're a representative of the government abroad, and expected to act as one. That means not doing things that are going to be embarassing if and when (more likely when, in this social networking age) they come to light.
Not to mention the spying thing that was brought up above. They had the President's entire schedule laid out in the hotel room. That would be awesome info for someone who wanted to set up a trap to embarass/hurt/kill the President.