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Question about one way flights

Hi, I am moving to Ireland with my husband and two kids. I am Irish and my husband is American. It is going to be a permanent move so we will probably not be back in the US for more than one year. Does anyone know if immigration control will give us any grief if we do not have a return trip booked? Thanks for any information you can give us. :0)

Re: Question about one way flights

  • which immigration contorl - Ireland? They won't care if you only booked 1 way flights as long as all of your visas are in order (i.e. visas for your husband & kids to live in Ireland). If you show up expecting to sort that out once you're in the country, yes they could cause you some grief and possibly not let you in I'd guess!
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  • Will your H have a visa prior to leaving?  If not the airline might give him a problem before leaving the US and the Irish Immigration officers might have a problem with it as well.  If he has a visa no one should give you grief at all.
  • No he doesn't have a visa. He doesn't need one as he is married to an Irish citizen. I have spoken to the Irish consulate and this is the information they have relayed to us. I believe all he will need to do once he arrives in Ireland is to register with the Gardai and then apply for citizenship after living there for three years. He is free to work there right after he signs up. He is an independent consultant and will still do contract work for an American company so we have taxes from a foreign country to look forward to going forward too. Joy!! ;0) I will be getting Irish passports for my boys as soon as we can. From what I can remember we've never been asked how long we plan on staying on prior trips so it would be much more convenient if we could just get a one way and not have to worry about changing a return date a few months down the line.
  • If it's east to convert a tourist visa into a resident visa based upon marriage the Irish immigration peeps might not give you grief but the airline most probably will*.

    *This is based upon the sh!tstorm that ensued when we moved to the Czech Republic because that's the way they did it there--had us come on tourist visas and then converted them to resident's visas while we were there.  The airline almost wouldn't let us board.  The company ended up having to buy us fully refundable return tickets just so we could get on the plane.

  • well I'd try to get in writing what the consulate as told you, just in case you do have any issues at immigration

    GL!

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  • imagePublius:

    If it's east to convert a tourist visa into a resident visa based upon marriage the Irish immigration peeps might not give you grief but the airline most probably will*.

    *This is based upon the sh!tstorm that ensued when we moved to the Czech Republic because that's the way they did it there--had us come on tourist visas and then converted them to resident's visas while we were there.  The airline almost wouldn't let us board.  The company ended up having to buy us fully refundable return tickets just so we could get on the plane.

     

    You poor things. I can only imagine how unbelievably stressful that had to have been for you guys. I did not know that the airline would have that much power. Were you stopped/questioned before going thru security/passport checks or right at check-in?

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    well I'd try to get in writing what the consulate as told you, just in case you do have any issues at immigration

    GL!

     

    Thanks. I believe what they told me is correct. I did check on an Irish travel website for further information and it did confirm what the consulate officer told us. We are definitely a little nervous about the impending move but really excited to finally be going back home. :0)

  • well that's a good sign for sure :) GL - I hope the move goes smoothly for you all!
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  • imagecailinalainn:
     

    You poor things. I can only imagine how unbelievably stressful that had to have been for you guys. I did not know that the airline would have that much power. Were you stopped/questioned before going thru security/passport checks or right at check-in?

    It was check-in.  It actually makes sense for the airlines to be the most vigilant about it.  They're the ones who are stuck with the job and bill of flying someone back if they're refused entry.

    It really does happen all the time. 

  • When I've flown on a one way ticket to Switzerland I've had to shown my visa to the gate agents in the US or they wouldn't have let me board the plane. 

    I am always asked though for a visa/permit at the check-in counter though when I fly to Switzerland :( 

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  • imagecailinalainn:
    He is an independent consultant and will still do contract work for an American company so we have taxes from a foreign country to look forward to going forward too. Joy!! ;0)

    Just want to point out because I''m not reading it clear. But you will always have the tax issue even if your H starts working for an Irish. You may bery well know that. But you would be surprised how many don't and then find themselves in trouble.

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    When I've flown on a one way ticket to Switzerland I've had to shown my visa to the gate agents in the US or they wouldn't have let me board the plane. 

    I am always asked though for a visa/permit at the check-in counter though when I fly to Switzerland :( 

    It's funny because I had a one way ticket to CH. And had a temporary Swiss travel visa in my passport and I don't think they ever asked or looked. But I know there are issues with this. I guess they just didn't notice or pay attention.

     

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  • I never bought a one-way ticket because it was always more expensive than  a round trip ticket. I would fly on the RT ticket and then cancel the return once I arrived.
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    I never bought a one-way ticket because it was always more expensive than  a round trip ticket. I would fly on the RT ticket and then cancel the return once I arrived.

    Ditto. Sometimes it depends on other factors. I have gotten cheap one way tickets. But you can totally find RT cheaper and just not use the return ticket.

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  • imagecailinalainn:
    He doesn't need one as he is married to an Irish citizen. I have spoken to the Irish consulate and this is the information they have relayed to us. 

    There is NO way this can be true!

    Is there?

    "Come on in, immigrant person, as long as you have your marriage certificate you' can waltz right in to the country."

    Immigration is a hugebitch, I cannot possibly see this being correct.  I can see being married as an easy-ish way to get the permission he needs to live there, but him flat out not needing a visa?  I don't believe it. 

     

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  • imagewise_rita:

    imagecailinalainn:
    He doesn't need one as he is married to an Irish citizen. I have spoken to the Irish consulate and this is the information they have relayed to us. 

    There is NO way this can be true!

    Is there? 

    There are countries that will allow you to enter on a tourist visa (which is what you're doing when you go to EU countries as an American for up to 90 days) and then convert that tourist visa to a residence visa while you're already in the country.  It's possible. 

  • imagecailinalainn:
    No he doesn't have a visa. He doesn't need one as he is married to an Irish citizen.

    Before you rely on that have a look at this link, in particular about being married to an Irish person not giving you an automatic right to live in Ireland... Also this seems to give some important information...

    I got this from googling "moving to Ireland from US"...

    Good luck with the move...

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  • I am going to answer in two parts.

    1) Often, a round-trip ticket is cheaper. We came to France on a one-year job contract with no plans to fly back to the U.S. this year. However, we got cheaper tickets booking round-trip with a return date 10 months later. (We couldn't book the return any later than 10 months from the departure date.) I imagine we'll end up doing the same when we fly back to the U.S. next January.

    2) It is possible you will get grief, depending on your visa situation. Will you already have worker's permits or some other kind of visa in your passports before you leave? We did before coming to France. However, when I was living and working in Spain about ten years ago, I was initially on a 90-day contract. Since this was the amount of time I could stay in the country legally as a U.S. citizen, the company was lazy and didn't process a work permit for me for these 90 days (illegal, I know, let's not get into that). I flew back to the U.S. with a r/t ticket originating in Madrid at one point and when I was trying to fly back to Spain with my return leg, airline employees wanted proof of my return to the U.S. They would not let me board a flight to Madrid without evidence that I was coming back to the U.S. again within the next 90 day period.

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    imagecailinalainn:
    No he doesn't have a visa. He doesn't need one as he is married to an Irish citizen.

    Before you rely on that have a look at this link, in particular about being married to an Irish person not giving you an automatic right to live in Ireland... Also this seems to give some important information...

    I got this from googling "moving to Ireland from US"...

    Good luck with the move...

    That link seems to confirm what the OP was told by the consulate.  Specifically:

     

    STEP 1: ENTERING IRELAND

    (A) For the non-EEA spouses and partners of Irish citizens who are citizens of non-visa-required countries

    I am the non-EEA spouse/partner of an Irish citizen. What do I need to do when I first arrive in Ireland?

    If you are a citizen of a non-visa-required country you do not need an entry visa to enter Ireland.

    IMPORTANT: You should inform the Immigration Officer at the point of entry of your intention to apply for residency based on your marriage or partnership with an Irish citizen.

    You should bring documentation providing a full account of the relationship history and proof of finances with you. If your Irish spouse, partner or fianc?(e) is accompanying you they should go with you to the non-EU passport control/immigration counter.

    The Immigration Officer at the airport usually issues a temporary entrance clearance stamp in your passport.

    For a list of countries whose passport holders do not require visas to enter Ireland see: www.dfa.ie 

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    imagewise_rita:

    imagecailinalainn:
    He doesn't need one as he is married to an Irish citizen. I have spoken to the Irish consulate and this is the information they have relayed to us. 

    There is NO way this can be true!

    Is there? 

    There are countries that will allow you to enter on a tourist visa (which is what you're doing when you go to EU countries as an American for up to 90 days) and then convert that tourist visa to a residence visa while you're already in the country.  It's possible. 

    This shocks me.  Even though it's pretty much exactly what I did to get into Norway.  Apply, arrive, refuse to leave until they granted me a visa. 

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  • imagewise_rita:

    There is NO way this can be true!

    Is there?

    "Come on in, immigrant person, as long as you have your marriage certificate you' can waltz right in to the country."

    Immigration is a hugebitch, I cannot possibly see this being correct.  I can see being married as an easy-ish way to get the permission he needs to live there, but him flat out not needing a visa?  I don't believe it.

    It was like this for Spain, despite the fact I was here on a student visa.

    The headaches come when they interview you to make sure you're married, etc. As an American, they gave me no grief. I say "as an American" because we have a friend who married a Colombian woman he met online and they're not even allowing her to enter the country.

     

     

    OP, has the Irish embassy said what you need in terms of documenting your marriage, if it needs to be legalized, and how old the papers can be? Careful with this one, it'll be easier to do from the US than calling home and asking family to help. 

  • I know nothing about Irish immigration, but I'm going to chime in on something else that I noticed --

    imageanna7602:

    1) Often, a round-trip ticket is cheaper. We came to France on a one-year job contract with no plans to fly back to the U.S. this year. However, we got cheaper tickets booking round-trip with a return date 10 months later. (We couldn't book the return any later than 10 months from the departure date.) I imagine we'll end up doing the same when we fly back to the U.S. next January.

    Dude, just call the airline now and change your return date on your original ticket. It usually costs 100? pp and is way cheaper than booking another round trip flight for everyone. I know you can usually only book flights 330 days in advance or something weird like that, which is probably why you couldn't get a January return date on your original ticket, but I would definitely try it now. You might have some ticket situation that doesn't allow you to, but I've changed my return date several times in the past and have never had an issue (except once when they changed mine but not DH's even though we had booked together, but that's a different story). It's worth a shot, at least.

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    I know nothing about Irish immigration, but I'm going to chime in on something else that I noticed --

    imageanna7602:

    1) Often, a round-trip ticket is cheaper. We came to France on a one-year job contract with no plans to fly back to the U.S. this year. However, we got cheaper tickets booking round-trip with a return date 10 months later. (We couldn't book the return any later than 10 months from the departure date.) I imagine we'll end up doing the same when we fly back to the U.S. next January.

    Dude, just call the airline now and change your return date on your original ticket. It usually costs 100? pp and is way cheaper than booking another round trip flight for everyone. I know you can usually only book flights 330 days in advance or something weird like that, which is probably why you couldn't get a January return date on your original ticket, but I would definitely try it now. You might have some ticket situation that doesn't allow you to, but I've changed my return date several times in the past and have never had an issue (except once when they changed mine but not DH's even though we had booked together, but that's a different story). It's worth a shot, at least.

    Ok, we'll try to do this once we know exactly when we're going back to the U.S. Thanks!

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  • Totally besides the immigration point, but in about 90 percent of the cases buying a return ticket is cheaper than buying a one way. If you buy a return you can just not use the flight back. This would likely save you money and you forego the trouble they might give you at immigration. 

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