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Farming in Mexico

Well I am still not used to animal farming for food. Yesterday as I was feeding my chickens and pigs I saw a poor bull being taken away for the carneceria. I felt so bad for him. At the very same time my SIL is killing one of her chickens. Then later I saw the same bull being unloaded into the carneceria. My heart hurts for these animals. Then today my turkey named Turkey took his last breath. He has been sick and died. I tried to save him, but it did not work. I think I am too attached to these animals. Meanwhile my chickens are waiting in line for one box to lay their eggs when we have more than enough for them all to lay at once. Our corn is also over a foot tall and our pumpkins are growing. Am I a softie? I am a vegetarian. I do not kill animals. Thanks for listening to my vent. Have a great day

 

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  • My heart hurts with yours. My cousin has a farm in Italy and at one point I had to stop visiting her 'cause I couldn't stand looking at her caged bunnies and pigs that were living in poor conditions... I made sure she knew why I wasn't visiting too. Maybe it's hypocritical of me but the living conditions aspect saddens me more than actually killing them. I'd rather eat meat that comes from a small family-run farm than that of factory farming but knowing that even small farms like my cousin's don't provide the animals with better living conditions kills the whole point (pun intended). I mean, how hard is it to make sure these creatures that are making your existence possible lived an adequate life? 

    When I was little I picked up two chicks from this cousin and raised them. When they got older I gave them back so they could live outdoors in the country. Turns out I was fed those two at the following Christmas dinner. Now, who the eff does that to a child?? Bah, the human race puzzles me. 

    I guess the thing they say is to not name the animals to avoid getting attached, but who am I kidding, named or unnamed I still would.  

    eta - You have a great day too my dear! 

  • I tried not to name them, but being as I don't kill them I have a say in if they are killed or not. All times it is not to kill. My SIL asked me to help her with the killing and plucking of chickens for her store. Not happening. That is terrible that they fed your chickens to you when you were little. All that hard work and determination just to have them killed. Makes me wonder also. 
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  • Buenas noches!  I'm not sure how your SIL kills her chickens, I think that was one of the most educational days I ever had in El Salvador--I watched how loving and gentle one of my Salvadoran mamas, Albertina, was with her chicken who she had loved and raised; she held it and stroked it to make it really calm and then she just snapped it's neck.  I would have missed if I weren't paying close attention.  It wasn't a violent chicken toss without letting go it's neck and it was much more peaceful than my biological mother's and grandmother's stories of bloody, headless chickens on their farms growing up.  Albertina's chickens are free-range in her yard and each seems to have it's own place in her yard (or house) where they lay their eggs each day and at night they all roost in a tree right next to the house.  I know, in general, Mexico's diet contains a lot more meat than Guate or El Salvador, so maybe the carniceria is more common for slaughter, just because it happens more often (besides special occasions).  I really appreciate your rant and have a lot of respect for you.  We're talking about moving back to Latin America once we're both done studying (which will be another 5-6 years), and we both really love the rural lifestyle, so I appreciate all the mental wrestling you give me to do before the time comes!
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    When I was little I picked up two chicks from this cousin and raised them. When they got older I gave them back so they could live outdoors in the country. Turns out I was fed those two at the following Christmas dinner. Now, who the eff does that to a child?? Bah, the human race puzzles me.

    MIL had the same thing with her pet bunny being Sunday dinner. Terrible.

    DH's hotel he worked at in the mountains had caged bunnies at the back entrance and then had a space for them to run about. But again... special dinner at the hotel. 

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    Buenas noches!  I'm not sure how your SIL kills her chickens, I think that was one of the most educational days I ever had in El Salvador--I watched how loving and gentle one of my Salvadoran mamas, Albertina, was with her chicken who she had loved and raised; she held it and stroked it to make it really calm and then she just snapped it's neck.  I would have missed if I weren't paying close attention.  It wasn't a violent chicken toss without letting go it's neck and it was much more peaceful than my biological mother's and grandmother's stories of bloody, headless chickens on their farms growing up.  Albertina's chickens are free-range in her yard and each seems to have it's own place in her yard (or house) where they lay their eggs each day and at night they all roost in a tree right next to the house.  I know, in general, Mexico's diet contains a lot more meat than Guate or El Salvador, so maybe the carniceria is more common for slaughter, just because it happens more often (besides special occasions).  I really appreciate your rant and have a lot of respect for you.  We're talking about moving back to Latin America once we're both done studying (which will be another 5-6 years), and we both really love the rural lifestyle, so I appreciate all the mental wrestling you give me to do before the time comes!

    She does in a fashion I like to call barbaric. One person holds the chicken and another one cuts its head off with a kitchen knife, I have told them many times it was barbaric and they keep telling me they are for eating not pets. I think of them all as pets. The chickens have a hen house for sleeping and another for laying. They argue over one nest. There is enough for them all to have one. They line up in there(literally) and will wait for hours until it is their turn. I think its so funny.   Thank you so much for appreciating my thoughts. I like every other part just not that part of the animals. We have 4 japanese bald chickens and my SIL is threatening to kill my one and only rooster because he doesn't like her and pecks her. I think thats funny also. I will never let her kill him and he can cont to peck. He knows she is the killer. He doesn't even try to peck anyone else. His name is Rodney and he knows his name. Good night

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  • I think the same that's why I'm vegetarian and have been for a long time. My MIL and FIL have a small farm with their own chickens/pigs and kill them for food when necessary. DH has obviously grown up and done it too with sadness but not difficulty (he's not vegetarian). They care for and respect the animals so I find it hard to understand how they can then kill them but I suppose you could look at it that they at least are fully aware of what they're eating and that animals need to die for their meals/livelihood? they aren't pretending chicken grows on trees and avoiding the reality. 
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    I think the same that's why I'm vegetarian and have been for a long time. My MIL and FIL have a small farm with their own chickens/pigs and kill them for food when necessary. DH has obviously grown up and done it too with sadness but not difficulty (he's not vegetarian). They care for and respect the animals so I find it hard to understand how they can then kill them but I suppose you could look at it that they at least are fully aware of what they're eating and that animals need to die for their meals/livelihood? they aren't pretending chicken grows on trees and avoiding the reality. 

    Exactly. I have been vegetarian for about18 years. I am only 26. My hubby is the same way. If he thinks something is ready for eating he will go out and have his sisters help him. They are all fully aware I will not be participating. They enjoy it.  

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  • Seriously, that was one traumatic experience, unfortunately so for everyone involved. I remember crying my lungs out after I found out. One of the chicks used to peck at my pen as I was writing my homework. It's not like we'd have freaking starved if they hadn't killed them. :(
  • My cousin has chickens for food (some for eggs and some for meat) and I actually envy those chickens. They have awesome lives until the moment they're butchered. They make sure not to get attached to the meat-chickens though.

    When his daughter decided they did need names, he named the first one 'Sunday Dinner' (no joke!) and it definitely helped his kids realize that whether they got attached to them or not, they would be eating them at some point.

    Ironically, Sunday Dinner turned out to be the best layer, so she's still alive and the oldest of the bunch. Her name remains a constant reminder that as soon as she stops laying (or when the meat chicks are big enough) they will indeed become dinner.  

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  • I am sorry that happened to you. Loving and raising animals just to have them killed is just wrong. They know whats going to happen. They get scared. That is the exact reason I told my SILs that I will not be killing any of them. My rooster started to peck at my SIL every time he saw her. She is the only person that he has ever had a conflict with. I have no meat chickens right now. Hubby does have a meat pig he is raising. That is going to be so hard when they come and get her. Thanks for responding everyone and telling me about your stories. 
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  • I am most definitely not a vegetarian, but I could see how this lifestyle would be difficult. The only animals I have ever raised were family pets, so I think it would be hard to change the relationship that I have with animals. I am pretty sure I would eventually get over it, but I see how it would be really hard. If it makes you feel better, I don't think you are a softie. Most meat-eaters don't have any desire to see their meat alive and hanging out around the house before dinner.
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    I am most definitely not a vegetarian, but I could see how this lifestyle would be difficult. The only animals I have ever raised were family pets, so I think it would be hard to change the relationship that I have with animals. I am pretty sure I would eventually get over it, but I see how it would be really hard. If it makes you feel better, I don't think you are a softie. Most meat-eaters don't have any desire to see their meat alive and hanging out around the house before dinner.

    thank you. I have a hard time not getting close to animals. They don't seem to have a problem here with their animals being in the yard in one min and on the plate the next
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