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I need to vent or I might go postal

There is a student in my French class who is making it incredibly difficult for me to learn and improve.  He was held back into our level (B2) and I have no idea how he was ever promoted into our level in the first place.  He either doesn't understand or doesn't pay attention (I suspect it's some combination of the two) and forces almost everything to be repeated, even the answers to homework.  He refuses to contribute to discussions we have in class unless it's interrupting to ask why we're not talking about French films and old French actresses or to add something else equally random and off topic.  Also, he insists on translating every single thing into English OUT LOUD.  It's gotten so bad lately that the teacher has started speaking English with him just to speed things up and move the class along.  

It's becoming increasingly difficult for me to concentrate on the French when English is being thrown about all over the place.  I no longer live in a Francophone country and I go to this class to speak and better my French.  I don't need to be helping someone translate something that at this level they should be able to understand on their own into English.  He is grating on my last nerve.  

Do we think I would be justified in speaking to the people in charge about him?  I'm trying to decide if him handicapping my learning isn't being overly clouded by the fact that I really don't like him. 

Re: I need to vent or I might go postal

  • I think you should stand up for your right to learn.  I would talk to the teacher as well as the people in charge, as he/she may have already said something about this. 
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  • I would definitely start with the teacher.  Going straight over her head immediately could step on toes and what knows, maybe the teacher can do something to remedy the situation.

    If you get no resolution from her then I'd move up to the administration.  Have you talked to other classmates about this guy? 

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  • I'd be fairly annoyed too. Not only is he hampering your learning opportunities but he is also wasting your money and time. I would say something to the teacher too and if no improvement the higher up. Ask could you switch classes or suggest that you move school, if that is an option...
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  • PubliusPublius member
    Sadly to say, he annoys and disrupts everyone in the class. I think I'll definitely say something to te teacher. I sometimes give him a ride from the school to his neighborhood because it's on my way and it gives me an extra 15 minutes to speak French. Maybe I'll bring it up in the car.
  • PubliusPublius member
    Also, it's at Alliance Francaise. There aren't really other schools in town and there aren't enough people for there to be another class at my level. This is pretty much my only option.
  • As an ESL teacher who has had difficult students before, here's my recommendation

    1) Talk to the teacher. He's obviously aware of the problem and probably can also sense that it annoys other students, but let him know that you're considering quitting the class because of this guy. I'm sure your teacher would rather have you in the class than him, so he'll probably be very motivated to come up with a solution that allows you to stay.

    2) Ask your teacher if he would like you to complain directly to the administration. Although of course I would want a heads-up, I actually like it when students take a complaint about another student up a level. If a client brings the problem directly to my boss, then she feels obligated to come up with a solution that the client is happy with, and she has options that aren't always open to me. Refunding the cost of lessons taken so far and offering private lessons for the unhappy student, for example. I can't do that, but my boss can.

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  • I agree with Kelly, talk first to the teacher and then maybe the next level up. Or if you would like, I could break his knees and maybe he would have to sit out a few lessons?
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    As an ESL teacher who has had difficult students before, here's my recommendation

    1) Talk to the teacher. He's obviously aware of the problem and probably can also sense that it annoys other students, but let him know that you're considering quitting the class because of this guy. I'm sure your teacher would rather have you in the class than him, so he'll probably be very motivated to come up with a solution that allows you to stay.

    2) Ask your teacher if he would like you to complain directly to the administration. Although of course I would want a heads-up, I actually like it when students take a complaint about another student up a level. If a client brings the problem directly to my boss, then she feels obligated to come up with a solution that the client is happy with, and she has options that aren't always open to me. Refunding the cost of lessons taken so far and offering private lessons for the unhappy student, for example. I can't do that, but my boss can.

    This. Definitely tell the teacher and see what he recommends. I hope they are able to fix this for you. 

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  • PubliusPublius member

    imagemyblueangel19:
    I agree with Kelly, talk first to the teacher and then maybe the next level up. Or if you would like, I could break his knees and maybe he would have to sit out a few lessons?

    LOL!  Thanks for the offer but he's got to be around 70.  I'm not sure his knees would heal Wink 

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