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s/o judging people's food choices (CP)
Re: s/o judging people's food choices (CP)
I think it goes without saying, when I see someone overweight and they have a ton of processed food and twinkies in their cart that yes, I give them the side eye. Since DH and I have been on our health kick we have found that our grocery bill is actually LESS because of the healthier food we are eating, so I don't believe anyone can rightfully claim that people eat crappy because they are poor.
With that being said, ANYONE that has Hamburger Helper in their cart gets the side eye from me. I don't care if you are Lance Armstrong, that sh!t is just nasty.
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I think that the healthy stuff is quite a bit more expensive than most of the cheap stuff, unfortunately. You can buy a lot more Wonder Bread as opposed to the whole grain stuff. I'm glad that we're able to buy the "real" food but if I had a bunch of mouths to feed on a tight budget, I wouldn't be able to afford that.
I don't like the idea of judging people based on a grocery cart. Now, I do try to guess what people are doing if they're buying 3 or 4 things (like, is the guy buying a lasagna and some flowers going on a date? Or visiting his mom?) but that's about it.
I agree that healthy food is more expensive, overall. However it's all about priorities. On paper, we probably spend more on food that we "should" but we sacrifice other things so we can do that, you know? Although big C is starting to eat so much I might have to start standing on street corners to afford feeding him quality meat.
Butcher your own cattle. We have done this ever since we got married and it is so tasty, plus, we know EVERYTHING that calf has eaten so we have total control over the quality of the beef. We only have to butcher about every other year - it is dirt cheap. We are on a meat overload right now, actually. Yum.
Every other year? Wow. Are you getting a full beef? One full beef might last us a year.
We're actually on a waiting list right now to get a cow whenever it is ready. It's going to be around $1200-$1400 including the processing and all that. Does that sound right to you? You can PM me if you don't want to say on the board. This cow is grass fed too.
I agree, totally. We do the same thing, in fact. Do you belong to the co-op, by any chance? I get our meat from the farmer's market, but I'm thinking seriously about doing the co-op. I have for awhile, really, I don't know why I don't just pull the trigger.
Puppy, am I remembering correctly in that your family has a farm that butchers cattle?
Funny you should mention that, because I did just hook up with our CrossFit box's co-op. I doubt their full share will be enough for us for 2 weeks, but it's only 40 bucks so I thought we'd try it out! Hopefully that will help with our produce cost. I'd really love to just grow our own stuff but I just don't even know where to start with that. I do NOT have a green thumb.
I'm going to have to wait until I'm off my phone to fully respond to this, but in a nutshell, yes.
I don't really judge much at the grocery store because I rarely shop a places that carry a lot of processed foods. It's mostly Sunflower or Whole Foods for me. That said, I do have a daily Diet DP, and sometimes just need some French Onion dip, so I'm not perfect.
I do judge people who eat a Banquet frozen meal for lunch everyday, or people who believe the commercials and somehow think a cereal or flavored Yoplait yogurt is "healthy." Or people who eat chili out of cans, or Hot Pockets or any number of things.
And I think/know from personal experience that if you know what to buy and take the time to cook whole foods from scratch, it is no more expensive to eat healthy. I will say that pre-packaged organic or all-natural stuff is more $$$, and that Whole Foods' prices are high, but I manage to feed myself well for around $200/month. And that includes toiletries and whatnot. Actually food is probably $125-$150.
So, I think the problem is less about $$$, and more about education and access to heathy items. And I'm aware that $$$ plays into those things as well.
And yes, this was my short answer.
We have 2 raised vegetable gardens and they are SUPER easy. Let me know if you want some info.
Short answer: yes.
But I'm a Judgy McJudgerson in my head about lots of things
You know I love you, but I am completely rolling my eyes at this.
Fantastic, you prioritize your budget (and time, which is probably an even bigger factor) to shop and whole foods and 'eat clean'. More power to ya. I prioritize my time and budget in a way that works for me and has zero affect on most of the population. I'm not unhealthy (thereby increasing healthcare costs), I'm not complaining about feeling like ***, etc so it really just comes across a way to feel superior to someone else. I'm sure there are things I do better at, but I'd be an ass if I judged how you spend your money with respect to other things.
Also, to me it is all relative. That person buying yoplait yogurt may be taking the first steps toward a healthy lifestyle. Maybe (s)he wanted to buy cookies for a snack. It's like judging someone who is working out at the gym and isn't as fit as you. Everyone starts somewhere.
I'll clarify that I would never say something to anyone in person IRL about this.
I don't think I'm superior to anyone, and people can eat what they want. It's less about someone occasionally eating twinkies or whatever and more about the total lack of education and access to healthier foods. Obesity is a huge problem in this country and it's a public health issue.
And like I said, I'm not perfect and am a little ridiculous when it comes to this particular topic. I'm aware of my ridiculousness and am trying to be less judgy in general.
I don't. If the box of twinkies is surrounded by produce and other fresh stuff, I'd think you could assume occasional weakness. But then if it surrounded by a case of coke, and hot dogs and hamburger helper and Dorito's, you can probably assume its not occasional. But even then it's hard to say if they are willfully making those choices knowing the consequences or if they don't know better or don't know how to cook healthfully. So, I probably shouldn't judge them either way.
I just think obesity and health in general is a huge problem that needs to be addressed. I don't know the right answers to do that.
One apple a day for a snack costs less than twinkies for the same number of snacks. Munching on a Jazz Apple right now - yum!
And I am with Oklagirl - eating healthy costs the same or less than not eating healthy if you plan it out and think about it.
Blinking - a garden is super easy, even without a green thumb you can do it.
At one time,my family owned one of the largest cattle ranches in the nation but that isn't where I get my beef. We go in with some others and buy two calfs, raise them in OKC, and butcher them here in OKC. DH and I aren't as involved in the raising and taking care of the calves, so we pay a bit more than the others. I tend to accidently make friends with animals and when you plan to eat it, it is just best for me to stay the heck away.
I voted yes, but only because as others have stated, if their cart is full of junk food, I'm judging them. If it's mixed with healthy items, I'm not judging. My cart is not always super healthy. If DH goes with me to the store, I don't always want to look at whats in the cart.
Although I did convince him to put the no-bake oreo thing back.
I'm sure it helps that I love to cook. We do spend more on our groceries than we probably need to since it's just the two of us. I do buy better quality items or stock up on certain things I can freeze. My family butchers their own meat and my parents are generous to us in that I get meat for my birthdays and Christmas (half a cow and a whole pig). I also can get as many chickens as I want when I visit.
I've given the side eye to some people who have nothing but frozen foods and junk in their carts, but I try not to be that way. I was that way once upon a time, until I realized how bad it was for me and that I didn't want to raise JJ that way. I never cooked in college, but after college [and having JJ, and getting married, which all happened relatively quickly after graduation], I changed.
I wish we had a Sunflower here. Every time I go, I walk out with a lot of stuff and am always surprised at how cheap it is compared to getting the same [lesser-quality] stuff at our Walmart. I make special trips to OKC just to shop there because, in the end, it's better for my family and my wallet.
This.
Yep.
As to the question of how poverty factors into people's diets, I hope 5thofJuly weighs in, since I think she probably has some interesting insight into that topic.
I realize this is weird, but I assume other people are judging what I put in my shopping cart. It helps me eat healthier for sure!
I don't usually notice what other people have because I always try to pick the shortest line, but I did have to giggle to myself once when a lady in front of me just had tampons, pretzels, and a 6 pack of Hershey's bars
that made me giggle. I also think it is funny when people have a weird combonation of things like beer, pasta sauce and potato chips or something.
yeah, a large English cucumber, lube, and a bottle of wine would give me pause....
I just ate a s'more made with nutella as I read this post, judge away.