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Re: Whooping cough
I'm also curious to hear others' thoughts on this. We did a sort of delayed vax with JJ, but it was mainly because I didn't want JJ getting five shots at one time. He still has all his vax based on the recommended schedule, but I still would like to know others' thoughts on why they did/didn't vax and where to find info on that.
This article has some good information and includes several relevant links.
http://m.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience/
This is pretty close to what we did with Nolan. I spaced out his 12 mon vacc. The thought of him getting 6 at one time made me barfy, even though I have give upwards of 8 vacc at one time. (I got barfy then too, but that's my job, and wasn't my kid.) Most of you know what my profession is, so you probably already know that I'm pro-vacc. Especially baby vacc, namely DTaP/Hib-IPV (that combo is called Pentacel for you researching). I'm on the fence about how I feel about varicella, but Nolan did get his because of a situation at daycare. Here's some of what I know about DTaP. It takes 3 doses of the baby vaccine to be "immune." As an adult, we've all had the 3 doses, so in theory we're all immune. But antibodies change a lot as you grow and age, so a booster is just for continued reassurance of your immunity.
I think if you're wanting to wait until right after birth of BoyMom 2.0 to have your booster, you are probably protected enough with previous antibodies to survive the hospital stay. Having said that, don't wander through the "high risk areas" for pertussis if you're going to wait. Keep visitors to people you know are immune. I'd have DH go ahead and get vacc so that he's protected. And B is vaccinated, so you're good there.
I get what you're saying about where to stop the insanity. I think it's ok to look a little nutty when it comes to your kid's safety. But I wouldn't worry about asking about vacc history of every visitor so much as asking people who have cough/snot/flu-like symptoms to please wait to see 2.0 until he or she has an established immune system. Babies born in the winter have a statistically "lower" immune system than one born in the summer months.
I do truly believe in herd immunity. I do, however, also know that a kid(s) who does not go out into the community a lot (homeschooled, lives on a farm/ranch outside of general population, etc) is less likely to need vaccination than someone like my kid who on a regular basis hugs as many kids as his can fit into his schedule, from all walks of life/background/vaccination history. To me it's worth the risk of the vaccine to keep him from getting sick. I think with most things in life, you have to make any informed decision based on what works for your family. Just make sure that you're reading good info. Look for things that are peer reviewed. They should have at least one MD that oversees the research. Good research doesn't have an obvious agenda.
What do you mean that's the wrong side? Tastes great to me!
Let's talk about this in person some time! I have a book you can borrow that I really liked.
BWAHAHAH. Multiple other people in this post have asked for this info as well. I'm willing to bet the book is Dr. Sears and the "research" is mommy blogs.
And MrsGilB, what are the risks of vaccines for a typical healthy person? No snark, I'm truly curious.
Bearing in mind that I don't abide by Dr. Sears (nor will I ever. no offense, just don't prefer his flavor.) and I don't buy into the "vaccines=autism" school, you have typical risks of any invasive procedure. Reactions, both to the vaccine itself and site reactions; infection; fever/disruption in immune response. There are studies and inquiries into the vaccines that contain aluminum, thimerosal (basically a mercury), other preservatives, and other controversial ingredients. Every single person has a different "chemical" makeup than the next person. How a vaccine metabolizes in one person could be completely different in another. The idea is that the vast majority of people will respond to a vaccine with antibody formation and herd immunity will ensue.
Nolan will not be getting an HPV shot. I don't feel like the evidence based medicine is far enough out to support male vaccination for HPV. I think education about transmission will be the forefront on that topic in our household. And I also will not allow the MMRV (that's MMR and varicella) combo. It has a lot of documented occurance of causing febrile seizures and is only recently back on the market for usage. Seems risky to me.
I do think there is a lot of fear mongering from both sides of the vaccine debate. Like I said before, I don't think there is one "right" party. It's a personal decision that you have to make for yourself based on the lifestyle of your family and your children. I prefer not to have to worry about whether or not people around me are vaccinated, or whether or not I or my family may be harming other people around us. I believe-for the most part- in modern medicine and all that it provides. And I encourage people to do what's best for them, and to do their own research. All I ask is that people skip hype, and read good solid research done by good, reputable individuals/groups.
What do you mean that's the wrong side? Tastes great to me!