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I've ruined my husband...(long story)

So, I'm new here. I have friends I can talk to but I hate talking about my husband to them. Anyway, over two yrs. ago I had a one time affair with a guy from my past. Prior to the affair my dh was finding excuses to not go to work(bad back), but felt fine enough to help his buddy work in his ATV shop. DH was also spending most of our $ on ATVs and parts and spending countless hours in the garage;no time w/me &our children. He started drinking heavy, too. The only time he wanted anything to do with me was when he wanted sex and would get angry for days at a time if I didn't give in. He's always been very controlling:the color/length of my hair, money, my friends, and not wanting to meet my bio. dad). With husbands lack of attention in me I began chatting with friends(male and female) on FB. An old friend and I reconnected & his interest in me totally blew me away. Needless to say, the affair happened. I told hubby a few days later & after a short separation we agreed to work things out. We even renewed our vows. Things went well for a couple months then the monster reared its ugly head...the affair was thrown on my face daily, I was called a whore in front of our kids, the drinking became worse along with the neglect. This went on until last spring when he asked for a divorce. I agreed. I couldn't take the abuse anymore. During our separation(after papers were filed) we both began other relationships; his online, sexting, texting, calling, etc., mine in real life. He hacked unto my computer accounts, had people following me, refused to see the children, etc. For whatever reason, I realized I still loved him and called him 12 days before our divorce hearing. We've been together since...though it's been very rough. He still has major issues w/the affair and now w/the relationships during our separation. These issues spill over into what little bit of good we manage to put together in our marriage...he has a hard time looking me in the eye, tells me he doesn't know if he'll ever love me like he used to and has told me many times he wishes he'd never met me. Am I wrong for wanting to move past the affair? DH tells me I do because I'm trying to pretend nothing ever happened. What do you think of this?

Re: I've ruined my husband...(long story)

  • To me it sounds like your relationship ended a long time ago when you cheated because he was being selfish and you looked else where. If something is so broken it most likely can't be fixed. Do you feel good being with someone who openly tells you he doesn't know if he can love you? Or someone that puts you down in front of your children? I'm guessing the answer is no - this is not healthy on alot of levels. If you want to try and make it work, I would suggest getting counseling and seeing if it's worth moving forward or not. 

    I personally think you should have went through with the divorce for your own happiness and for your children's happiness. No woman should be with a controling man! He's teaching your children that this is behavior is ok in a relationship and your reenforcing it because your staying with him.

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  • Why would you want to be with this guy? 

    I think you need to do some deep soul searching and see what it is that makes you want that sort of treatment.  NO ONE deserves to be controlled like that. Trust me....I was there and know that the grass IS greener on the other side!!!

    If not for you, do it for your children. Do you want them to think that is what a marriage should be like????

  • In all honesty, we have gone through counseling...this is when I found out he was in love with his online girlfriend. I question myself about my choice but he made it so hard for me during our separation...in regard to our children and my finances, along with my peace of mind. Yes, he is still trying to control...has demanded access to my cell phone records, I had to delete my FB(he still has his), and I've given him access to me email account. In other ways he has been the a good husband. I love him dearly but I'm so torn with the guilt he puts me through. Financially, I don't think I'd be able to make it through a divorce. Emotionally, I know I couldn't. Sometimes I wish I could just pack up our children and move away with them...even though I promised him I would never give up on our marriage again. Thanks for "listening".
  • You can't let him control you like this - I want you to know that you can emotionally handle a divorce. Keep your children in mind and continue counseling through the divorce. He wants you to think you can't handle it and i'm sure he'll make ur life hell through it but you can't give him that power and in the end it will all be worth it. You're unhappiness is not going to end until you take care of yourself and children first.
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  • Online girlfriend?

     

    I don't condone cheating, but duuude, this guy is awful.  He was a controlling, irresponsible, possibly cheating dud long before you had your affair.  Your affair was clearly a desperate attempt to get out.  I'm actually sorry you didn't succeed.

     

     

    And the "he's a good husband in all other ways" made me lol.  You've run out of ways for him to be a good husband, with all the ways he's a terrible one.  What other ways are there? 

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  • I know that I just keep making excuses, but going thru the divorce last year was literally hell. I'm a substitute teacher so in the summer time I don't get a paycheck...he makes $45,000 plus a year(his full time job & his side job that he's paid under the table for). I was ordered to pay half the mortgage, our car payment, keep up the utilities, and pay for gas to transport kids to appointments and practices...all on $169.00 a week child support for 3 children. He never kept to his visitations(always traded shifts w/buddies to keep from seeing the kids out of spite for me). All that and the emotional torment he put me thru both privately and publicly. Nobody new about his girlfriend but the whole town and FB world new about my affair and about my relationships. He even lied to his attorney and told her I had moved the kids across state line and that I was planning on taking them to Florida so he would never be able to see them again. We were confined to our state of Ohio throughout the proceedings and I could only take them out of state after the divorce with court permission. Trust me, if I was $ able to and knew he wouldn't try to get me for kidnapping, I would go in a heartbeat. The children would be willing to go too.
  • Frought with problems.

    He also sounds like he's got mental issues.

    For the sake of your kids you need to divorce this guy and move on. They'vebeen done irreparable damage, thanks to the treatment their father is giving you.

    And you're willing to have them stay in a horrible household because it is a money issue.

    What about moving back in with your parents? A friend? an aunt or an uncle? You could stay with them until you are on your feet financially.
  • Wow...just wow!!  This guy is a complete A-hole!!!  STOP making excuses for him...would you rather live a small part of your life going through hell getting a divorce (trust me, I've been there) or spend the rest of your life in misery?!?!?!  Face it, you will never be happy in this marriage....MOVE ON!!!  You HAVE to do this for yourself and your kids.  My ex-husband took all my money right when the divorce happened and I was a stay-at-home mom while he cheated on me with his co-worker.  I had no money either....I moved in with my parents who helped me get back on my feet and kept telling myself that this is only TEMPORARY!!!!  A year later I am back on my feet financially, meet an amazing guy who treats me like a queen and couldn't be happier.  The temporary misery you will go through is WAY worth the lifetime of it you will have if you stay with him.  You deserve better!!!!
  • Maybe you need to do some research on which countries don't have extradition agreements with your home country.
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  • imagelotusflowerONE:
    He's always been very controlling:the color/length of my hair, money, my friends, and not wanting to meet my bio. dad).

    This is reason enough to leave him. I can't even imagine letting anyone control me like this unless I was in prison for a crime. I have had two friends in horrible abusive relationships. Both got out. One quick because she was smart and saw the signs before it was to late. The other didn't and endured a horrible marriage for years. Even after they separated she still went back and dated him. Finally she wised up and left him. She is much happier now but it took time for her to heal.

    Please just leave him again. You deserve someone who treats you like a queen. If not for you do it for your children. How does he effect them? How will they know what a happy mom and childhood is like if dad is such a controlling, alcoholic, verbally abusive d*ck? How will they treat you if they constantly see dad treating you like crud? 

    Please get individual counseling because you need it. Counseling will also help you understand why you even had the affair. Also find a close friend or family member to help support you through this. Their support will mean wonders to you when you need it. 

  • imagelotusflowerONE:
    I know that I just keep making excuses, but going thru the divorce last year was literally hell. I'm a substitute teacher so in the summer time I don't get a paycheck...he makes $45,000 plus a year(his full time job & his side job that he's paid under the table for). I was ordered to pay half the mortgage, our car payment, keep up the utilities, and pay for gas to transport kids to appointments and practices...all on $169.00 a week child support for 3 children. He never kept to his visitations(always traded shifts w/buddies to keep from seeing the kids out of spite for me). All that and the emotional torment he put me thru both privately and publicly. Nobody new about his girlfriend but the whole town and FB world new about my affair and about my relationships. He even lied to his attorney and told her I had moved the kids across state line and that I was planning on taking them to Florida so he would never be able to see them again. We were confined to our state of Ohio throughout the proceedings and I could only take them out of state after the divorce with court permission. Trust me, if I was $ able to and knew he wouldn't try to get me for kidnapping, I would go in a heartbeat. The children would be willing to go too.

    I think you should re-read this post and your original over & over again.Indifferent

     

  • Sorry but after all this information leave him. Love just sometimes is not enough. One thing I know about affairs and marriage is that unless you both come to eachother more calm and try not name call it will never work out. You were wrong and he was wrong in what you did and how you reacted. Did you guys try counseling? I dont know if I missed that.  But this guys seems like a real jerk the way he dealt with you legally and even before the divorce proceedings. Find a friend, find a family member if you need emotional or financial support and get out. 

    It will hurt to leave again like hell, the most painful feeling ever. But you will move on and you will feel better eventually. If you are questioning on whether to leave it sounds like in some way you have already decided.... 

  • OP, you need to go to Al-Anon.  Like yesterday.  

    The fact that you would cancel the divorce and get back together with him when he emotionally and financially neglected his kids is beyond my comprehension.  That is not a man worthy of a family.  

    Your husband is an alcoholic.  The reason his jealousy about the affair reignites every so often can probably be timed to his drinking and when you are hassling him about it.  You must be co-dependent because I can't imagine a woman with half a brain who would say "Oh yes, I want to stop my divorce proceedings and get back together with the guy who won't see his kids, is trying to starve us and drinks like a fish!  I especially love it when he is publicly humiliating me on Facebook and calling me a whore in front of our children.  Such good times!"

    Seriously, your kids deserve better.  Give it to them. 

  • In reply to daring miss...DH has gone through inpatient and outpatient aftercare for his drinking issue...however he has only attended one AA meeting. He hasn't had a drink since February. In response to your statement about his jealousy about the affair reigniting every so often due to my hassling him about his drinking couldn't be more incorrect. Trust me, I've never hassled him about his drinking...i try to avoid confrontation w/him at all costs. And as for the jealousy about the affair reigniting every so often...he allows that to happen on his own. Its not even so much about the affair anymore but more about who I talked to OR supposedly talked to during our separation. Alot of things were said to him about me and other men during this time. If he sees one of these supposed flings (or a guy friend that I danced and ONLY danced with at outing w/my gf's during our separation)...or my sons basketball coach (who is happily married to a lifelong friend of mine)who was generous to give me and my gf's a ride home that evening because we had too much to drink, he pouts and withdraws from me for days at a time because in his mind something more HAD to happen. So, you see, he brings himself much misery and in turn everyone around him. Honestly, I don't know how all of this will eventually unfold. I would hope and pray that his decision to stop drinking and that he's not been lashing out at me as often are good signs of better things to come for our marriage. Its just at times I question my happiness, my kids' happiness, my sanity...when he starts the guilt trip thing on me(I just wonder if that will ever go away).
  • Your response only reinforces my recommendation for Al-Anon for you.  You need to understand how his behavior (past and current) is all part of his alcoholism - whether or not he is drinking.  He will always be an alcoholic.  He may be in recovery or currently sober, but he *is* an alcoholic.

    He needs to go to meetings.   While he may not be consuming alcohol, he still thinks like an addict.  The destructive tapes are still running in his head and he will still be emotionally unpredictable.  You need to go to Al-Anon and talk to other people's whose lives have been affected by the drinking of others.  You qualify.

  • The worst part is that you're raising your kids in this environment.  For their sake, leave and do whatever you need to financially to make it work and be able to support them.  Move back with family, get a second job, whatever.  You're teaching your kids not to respect you, not to have respect for themselves, not to respect their partners and to use toxic communication methods within a relationship.  If you don't like yourself enough to get out, like your kids enough to want to raise them as emotionally healthy, happy people.
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  • I'm going to go out on a limb here and say not only should you not have gone back to this relationship, perhaps you should not be any relationship for some time to heal, think of yourself/kids first, and develop a life plan
  • Your bio indicates that you live in Columbus, Ohio.  I'm from Ohio and I know that there are many women's shelters that take kids, and through those programs you get low-cost or free legal services and help finding a place to live next, etc.  You need to stop hoping that things will change, and go change things.
  • Wow. Just.... .wow.

    He tells you how long your hair should be and dictates whether of not to meet your father?!You didn't ruin him... he ruined himself. 

    You cheated. He cheated. Okay, that happens, but seriously he's just going to keep using that against you and throwing it in your face. You know he can do it because he has. 

    And there was a PP that said you need to go to Al-Anon. She meant YOU, not him. My husband has some emotional issues himself and can be difficult. I tried to get him to go to therapy but he didn't so I went, because I needed to figure out what I needed to do to cope. 

    Whether you stay with him forever or if you leave this guy (which I think you should do; piddly child support and all), you still need to heal. You need to talk to someone (while boards are super comforting, an actual professional is more effective).

    Good luck to you.

     

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  • UPDATE ON MY SITCH: Things have been going better as of lately(but not before it got really bad). And I want to say thanks to everyone who took the time to offer advice. So, the really bad...in a nutshell hubby got pissed at me for confronting him about his fb again and all the disgusting web sites that he "liked" of nearly naked women. The one called"beautiful girls magazine" really bothered me because I know I'll never compare to them...grrr! Anyway, he told me he was just being who he is, blah, blah, blah. I told him it was ok...everyone would find out who he is and just how things really are. That made him change his tune...quick!!! He sent me a friend request(I secretly opened a fb account to see what he was up to)but later told him about it. He took down all the nasty crap, changed his relationship status from 'its complicated' to married and even posted a pic of me and him together and another one of me. Oh, and he is wearing his wedding ring again. He hasn't been throwing things in my face lately and we've been communicating alot better. I know im pretty excited about this turn of events...but trust me, im still utterly cautious. I know things can easily go from good to s#%$hole in a moments notice.
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