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Insominac - re Prop 8
I have heard that the resason Prop 8 passed is due to the large amounts of African Americans that came out to vote and that there was a huge push in the churches that they belong to, to vote Yes on Prop 8.
This truly amazes and saddens me if true.
Re: Insominac - re Prop 8
What saddens me is that the group who has perhaps been "discriminated" against the longest was the deciding factor in taking others rights away.
It's crap.
Let's hope that when they meet their maker they were right!
Los Angeles county voted Yes on 8, which greatly shocks and saddens me.
My next door neighbors have lived together for 20 years, and finally got married last month. I feel horrible for them today.
Hello
No no no - I am not saying that AA are the only ones who voted for 8. I am just saying that analysts are saying they were a major contributing factor to getting it passed.
What also didnt help the situation is that AA turned out in record numbers, which is a great, but not if they were voting no on 8
Gotta love bible thumpers:( Pushing their ignorance on everyone....
You know Mindy, I just don't know. ?I've heard similar statements made about Latino voters. ?I suppose we'll see when more results come back. ?But MommeyD's also right - a lot of churches are progressive and many encouraged their congregations to vote No. ?
But I think the Yes campaign did a lot of insidious messaging to target those groups - like how the Princess commercial featured a girl who read as Latina or how I got a recorded phone message on election day that featured Barack Obama saying that marriage is between a man and a woman (even though he's come out and opposed Prop 8).
I worked out of the West Hollywood office, because that was one of the earliest places that got off the ground. ?Although there were offices in other areas, I'm not sure how much time was spent in locations with other cultural communities. ?I think that's one thing that could be improved on for next time.?
I'm not saying all AA voted no on 8, but this was not a race issue and it's killing me that people are trying to make it just that. Since this initial post derived from the election board, I thought I'd post this from that board
This is what I was trying to explain about the percentages. Here is an excerpt from a blog that articulates it a little better.
The writer of the article seems to forget that whites are a majority of voters in the state and that if the amendment to strip marriage away from same-sex couples is successful it will be because a lot of white voters voted against equal treatment under the law for gay couples. It is true that a majority of Black and Latino voters may end up voting against us on marriage, but according to the Public Policy Institute of California Black voters account for about 6% of voters in most statewide elections and Latino voters account for roughly 15% of votes cast. Together Black and Latino voters account for about 21% percent of votes. Even if every Black and Latino voter votes for Proposition 8, 21% of the vote is not nearly enough for the anti-gay amendment to pass. It would still need strong support from white voters.
http://www.bilerico.com/2008/09/black_voters_not_to_blame_if_proposition.php
*Disclaimer, I don't know much about this blog it only came up in google after I was trying to find the basis for the stats put in the OP. I am posting the paragraph solely to illustrate my questions for how the OP was phrased.
I am white & DH is mexican, and we both voted yes on prop 8.
DH is a staunch homophobe, and believes they shouldn't have any rights what so ever, especially to raise a child.
Me - not so much like him, I just feel that marriage is between a couple of the opposite sex.
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yikes. ?glutton for punishment much??
Shelly: I understand where you are coming from, BUT, my problem stems from the fact that you "feel" this way - so you feel strongly enough to take those rights away from others?
ok ladies we all know politics and religion will never mix. Even on our board. So if don't have something nice to say don't say it all. Be good!
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Actually yes I do feel that strongly, and as you can tell so do a lot of other californian's. ?My church was also one of those churches that did the push for yes on prop 8. ?We are traditional catholics if that tells you anything.
We are tolerant of that lifestyle, but still feel that a marriage should be for heterosexual couples only.?
I agree with Yvette.
No matter what side you are on, it is not favor to bash each other. People are allowed to feel differently about issues. You can't force people to think a certain way. We are not robots that have to think and feel the same.
Huh. ?I never thought I'd ever see someone be identified as a homophobe with pride. ?I'd be equally as flabbergasted if you told me that the world is flat. ?
Revel in the fact that all counties whose population consist of 10% or fewer college grads share your views.
Yikes... Princess_shelly... I'm speechless...
I am white and DH is mexican, and we both voted NO on prop 8.
Because we believe that everyone is created equal.
You do realize that prior to 1967, you and your husband may not have been able to get married because you are white and he is mexican, don't you? That proud racists (similar to your proud homophobic husband) were dead set on preventing interracial marriage? And that the bible was often used to defend their stance that interracial marriage was wrong and unnatural, much like supporters of Prop 8 use the bible to defend their position?
People who have reaped benefits from the fight for civil rights, yet continue to discriminate against others disgust me. Shame on you and your husband.