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Dem pollster: race tied but trending Romney's way

I have listened to Doug Schoen on various radio shows, so his take on this race is interesting.

 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/25/romney-s-surge.html

With just two weeks to go until Election Day, the popular vote is, as everyone knows, effectively a dead heat. The Real Clear Politics average has Romney enjoying a 0.9-point advantage. And while the latest Rasmussen numbers give Romney a 4-point edge and he is ahead 5 in Gallup, there are other polls that have Obama leading. In the latest IBD/TIPP poll, for instance, the president is up by 2

But there are two other crucial indicators that show momentum for Mitt. The first is the trend in the Electoral College?and one state in particular.

At this point, many of the states in the Real Clear Politics ?toss ups? category appear likely to go one way or the other. Florida and Virginia will probably go for Romney, while Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan will most likely be won by the president.

And so, as we?ve argued before, that leaves Ohio as the state that will likely decide the election. The polls from Ohio currently show a dead heat, but they also show momentum for Romney.Just two weeks ago, Obama was up 10 points in the state. Today, that margin has closed to 3 in the latest SurveyUSA poll. Meanwhile, the latest Suffolk (PDF) poll has Ohio tied (at 47) and Rasmussen also has a tie (at 48). All of this is clearly good news for Mitt.

What?s more, there were other pieces of good news for Romney hidden in the aftermath of the third debate. In the CNN/ORC snap poll, which asked voters whether Romney could handle being commander-in-chief, 60 percent answered in the affirmative as compared to 38 percent against. Further, the two candidates were tied on likability?a big change from the 20-point lead the president held in this area a couple of months ago. While Obama won the debate on substance, it may not have mattered because Romney was still competent, for the most part presidential, and apparently far more likable than he once was.

Taken together, Romney?s improving image and the changing polls in Ohio do not paint a good picture for Obama. Time is running out for the president to counter Mitt?s surge. It?s still a tie, but things seem to be trending Romney?s way.


Douglas E. Schoen is a political strategist and coauthor of the book Mad as Hell: How the Tea Party Movement is Fundamentally Remaking Our Two-Party System. Schoen has worked on numerous campaigns, including those of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Michael Bloomberg, Evan Bayh, Tony Blair, and Ed Koch.

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Re: Dem pollster: race tied but trending Romney's way

  • Thanks for the great read! It's looking good for Mitt. I'm afraid to get too excited though :)
  • And others say its not trending Romney's way. That his momentum has in fact stopped.  The conjecture is pointless and media driven...we shall all see on election day how much Obama will win by. Until then, I'll go with the Vegas bookies.  Follow the money! 

    Fivethirtyeight if you need a source.  

  • imageAndrewBreitbart:

    I have listened to Doug Schoen on various radio shows, so his take on this race is interesting.

     http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/25/romney-s-surge.html

    With just two weeks to go until Election Day, the popular vote is, as everyone knows, effectively a dead heat. The Real Clear Politics average has Romney enjoying a 0.9-point advantage. And while the latest Rasmussen numbers give Romney a 4-point edge and he is ahead 5 in Gallup, there are other polls that have Obama leading. In the latest IBD/TIPP poll, for instance, the president is up by 2

    But there are two other crucial indicators that show momentum for Mitt. The first is the trend in the Electoral College?and one state in particular.

    At this point, many of the states in the Real Clear Politics ?toss ups? category appear likely to go one way or the other. Florida and Virginia will probably go for Romney, while Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan will most likely be won by the president.

    And so, as we?ve argued before, that leaves Ohio as the state that will likely decide the election. The polls from Ohio currently show a dead heat, but they also show momentum for Romney.Just two weeks ago, Obama was up 10 points in the state. Today, that margin has closed to 3 in the latest SurveyUSA poll. Meanwhile, the latest Suffolk (PDF) poll has Ohio tied (at 47) and Rasmussen also has a tie (at 48). All of this is clearly good news for Mitt.

    What?s more, there were other pieces of good news for Romney hidden in the aftermath of the third debate. In the CNN/ORC snap poll, which asked voters whether Romney could handle being commander-in-chief, 60 percent answered in the affirmative as compared to 38 percent against. Further, the two candidates were tied on likability?a big change from the 20-point lead the president held in this area a couple of months ago. While Obama won the debate on substance, it may not have mattered because Romney was still competent, for the most part presidential, and apparently far more likable than he once was.

    Taken together, Romney?s improving image and the changing polls in Ohio do not paint a good picture for Obama. Time is running out for the president to counter Mitt?s surge. It?s still a tie, but things seem to be trending Romney?s way.


    Douglas E. Schoen is a political strategist and coauthor of the book Mad as Hell: How the Tea Party Movement is Fundamentally Remaking Our Two-Party System. Schoen has worked on numerous campaigns, including those of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Michael Bloomberg, Evan Bayh, Tony Blair, and Ed Koch.

    Wisconsin won by Obama, not Romney RE: Ryan? Is it typical for a VP's home state to not vote for him? Just asking what history reveals on this question if anyone knows.

  • Wisconsin is historically progressive, Ryan is helping to tip the state but he would have to convert a lot of traditionally liberal voters to actually win WI.  
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  • imageMommyLiberty5013:

    Wisconsin won by Obama, not Romney RE: Ryan? Is it typical for a VP's home state to not vote for him? Just asking what history reveals on this question if anyone knows.

    I mean, Michigan and Massachusetts are both probably going for Obama and not Romney who was born/raised in the former and governor of the latter. 

    Gore didn't carry Tennessee in 2000, though I'm not sure if Clinton did in '92 or '96 when Gore was the VP candidate.

    Actually, Andrew Sullivan raised this question (about candidates failing to take their home states) on his blog a few weeks ago: 

    http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/09/home-state-losers.html

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